Australian DJ jailed for life in Thailand

[Franky Bear]

8 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

 

My bad for not being "down" with the nasty shit that is mixed with E's. seems you are though.

you're my favourite person on the internet this week. Wonderful replies. All screen grabbed for prosperity too

[theguyfromanotherforum]

28 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

I heard of Thai guys getting 2 years term in prison for SELLING yaba... And now we have a life-imprisonment for just two extacy pills? WTH?

 

It wasn't 2 pills. I read the full story on mirror. It was in 100's and they also busted his buddy in a condo with 250 pills. It does seem like he was doing this full time. It seems very puzzling as he had a job in oil and gas. That's what I read anyway.

[HHTel]

Some years ago, my friend's daughter of 17 years died from taking one E.  Whether it was her first one or not is irrelevant.  She died of heart failure.  Deaths from E is divided into 3 groups,  Heatstroke, too much fluid and heart failure.

 

Of course the danger is heightened by other mixes in the MDMA.

 

The only way to be safe is DON'T DO IT.  I have no sympathy for the guys selling the stuff. 

[autanic]

6 minutes ago, Franky Bear said:

You got links to this please and the toxology reports.

Thanks

 

 

 

Links

 

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/09/mother-blames-daughters-friend-for-ecstasy-death-5932878/

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/ecstasy/scientific-information.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/father-two-sons-who-died-8204269

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/03/two-arrested-teenage-girl-dies-ecstasy-manchester-dldk-club-night

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/my-teenage-daughter-died-after-taking-ecstasy-for-the-fourth-tim/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1115976/schoolboy-18-dies-after-taking-ecstasy-just-a-year-after-drug-claimed-the-life-of-his-big-brother/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/02/girls-death-after-taking-mastercard-ecstasy-prompts-police-warning

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/grieving-parents-whose-sons-died-from-overdose-back-drugs-legali/

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/whats-happening-to-our-ecstasy-mdma-deaths-british-supply-fabric

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-36570215

https://www.justthinktwice.com/true-stories/irma-perez-14

 

Should you require more links, just ask.

[Franky Bear]

3 minutes ago, autanic said:

 

 

 

Links

 

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/09/mother-blames-daughters-friend-for-ecstasy-death-5932878/

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/ecstasy/scientific-information.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/father-two-sons-who-died-8204269

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/03/two-arrested-teenage-girl-dies-ecstasy-manchester-dldk-club-night

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/my-teenage-daughter-died-after-taking-ecstasy-for-the-fourth-tim/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1115976/schoolboy-18-dies-after-taking-ecstasy-just-a-year-after-drug-claimed-the-life-of-his-big-brother/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/02/girls-death-after-taking-mastercard-ecstasy-prompts-police-warning

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/grieving-parents-whose-sons-died-from-overdose-back-drugs-legali/

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/whats-happening-to-our-ecstasy-mdma-deaths-british-supply-fabric

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-36570215

https://www.justthinktwice.com/true-stories/irma-perez-14

 

Should you require more links, just ask.

The toxology reports please. 

[Odin Norway]

7 hours ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

 

No, it isn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_alcohol_prohibition

To bad  you dont go to jail for being stupid.Live by the law in all the countryes you visit.

[Franky Bear]

6 minutes ago, autanic said:

 

 

 

Links

 

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/09/mother-blames-daughters-friend-for-ecstasy-death-5932878/

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/ecstasy/scientific-information.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/father-two-sons-who-died-8204269

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/03/two-arrested-teenage-girl-dies-ecstasy-manchester-dldk-club-night

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/my-teenage-daughter-died-after-taking-ecstasy-for-the-fourth-tim/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1115976/schoolboy-18-dies-after-taking-ecstasy-just-a-year-after-drug-claimed-the-life-of-his-big-brother/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/02/girls-death-after-taking-mastercard-ecstasy-prompts-police-warning

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/grieving-parents-whose-sons-died-from-overdose-back-drugs-legali/

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/whats-happening-to-our-ecstasy-mdma-deaths-british-supply-fabric

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-36570215

https://www.justthinktwice.com/true-stories/irma-perez-14

 

Should you require more links, just ask.

Sorry i forgot this one. I know you'll hate it. In fact, no.....well, ok...i will. 

At a guess, what do you think the ratio is to people dying from E related incidents compared to alcohol related incidents from drunk driving, to a fight etc etc etc???

In fact....never mind. Forget i asked

[mikiea]

8 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Don't you mean transported to Australia?

good god  someone please call a wa wa wambulance for ballpoint  before he hurts himself .

 

[Odin Norway]

16 minutes ago, Vermor said:

Every weapon manufacturer and seller as well... think about it.. weapons kill more than drugs.

 

Sorry to need to tell you.

A weapon dont kill.People do.

[F4UCorsair]

boomerangutang, post # 93, said (in part)

 

For Thai authorities involved with ruining that young man's life:  One word:  DISGUSTING.

 

Let's get one thing straight boomerangutang, Thai authorities didn't ruin his life....HE DID!!!   Thai authorities merely applied the law, and he was well aware of the law, and the consequences, I'm more than sure.

[animatic]

8 hours ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

I grew up in the UK in the 80s and was a teenager in the 90s - MDMA is neither addictive, nor 'hard', it simply needs to be treated responsibly.

As a parent, I'm perfectly happy for my kid to take he when he gets older, as I did and much of my generation did when I was younger. Not in this country though, it's unfortunately backward in terms of drug legislation.

 

I'd far prefer my son to be taking ecstasy as a teenager than for him to be binge drinking like most kids do.

While I will not recommend it to my kid, I agree with above. I too did back in the day and it was 100% legal. The problem was kids didn't hydrate. At rave dances and some panicked about. 

No it is not addictive. Shouldn't be in the same class with heroin, coke, yabaa, bath salts or molly.

[wgdanson]

8 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

I would feel bad, but I would not blame someone else.

If my children got addicted to alcohol, I would not blame Budweiser. 

Can you actually get drunk on Budweiser?

[wow64]

The Bangkok Hilton now has a resident international DJ. 

[F4UCorsair]

29 minutes ago, Franky Bear said:

Those trying to use the "you don't know what it;s mixed with" miss a huge point.

Drug dealers and the chemist that makes it want to make money. They DO know what they put in it and they know that if they put something in it that can kill people then they have a major problem. So they make sure that what ever they mix it with isn't going to kill you.

An awkward ickle fact, but, as you'll see in the replies....people will try and swerve that.

GO GO GO GO GO 

 

 

If you believe that drug manufacturers are scrupulous people, and that they would only use the finest ingredients, you are NUTS!!!

 

They're like most tradesmen, not interested in repeat business or doing the 'right' thing, just making the maximum profit and moving on to the next sucker client.

 

I can't believe you even think that, let alone posted it.  If it's even close to the truth, why is it that so many people die from overdoses?   Could it be that the drug is mixed inconsistently, and that the end user has NO idea of the actual strength?

[Franky Bear]

1 minute ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

If you believe that drug manufacturers are scrupulous people, and that they would only use the finest ingredients, you are NUTS!!!

 

They're like most tradesmen, not interested in repeat business or doing the 'right' thing, just making the maximum profit and moving on to the next sucker client.

 

I can't believe you even think that, let alone posted it.  If it's even close to the truth, why is it that so many people die from overdoses?   Could it be that the drug is mixed inconsistently, and that the end user has NO idea of the actual strength?

went way over your head.

never mind

[mydee]

2 hours ago, Agent Sumo said:

 

Nice post

 

Makes me question whether the sentence was too harsh after all.

 

This wasn't some young 'un slinging the odd pill here and there - this appears to have been a hardened dealer who hawked contraband left, right and center. 

 

Yes, it's a non-violent crime and, if he'd been in Oz, maybe he would've got a slap ont he wrist but he wasn't in Oz, was he? He was in Thailand where he knew the penalties would be severe if he got caught.

Spot on- that is the crux of the matter, he wasn't in Australia. if he had been in Indonesia he would have been shot. Using  the logic displayed by the self interestyed Yabah users he is lucky.Whether this particular drug is more or less dangerous than alcohol or caffeine is irrelevant. In the scale of injustices I rate it very low.

[F4UCorsair]

10 minutes ago, Franky Bear said:

Sorry i forgot this one. I know you'll hate it. In fact, no.....well, ok...i will. 

At a guess, what do you think the ratio is to people dying from E related incidents compared to alcohol related incidents from drunk driving, to a fight etc etc etc???

In fact....never mind. Forget i asked

 

 

I suppose you have conveniently forgotten to mention that the number of people dying in alcohol related accidents versus drug deaths, is a function of how many use the substances.   There are probably a thousand times as many users of alcohol as there are drug users (wild guess, no more), but the number of deaths from alcohol related road crashes isn't a thousand times those from drug use.

 

Give that some thought.

[Don Mega]

8 minutes ago, wow64 said:

The Bangkok Hilton now has a resident international DJ. 

Thats a stretch. seems he only turned the table in Thailand for a few weeks...outside of never heard.

[348GTS]

In this day in age, especially with the wealth of information on the internet and sob stories of poor hapless farang drug dealers who have been caught / imprisoned / even executed in some cases in SE Asia, movies such as Bangkok Hilton etc, there really is no excuse anymore. Nobody can claim ignorance or to not have known the realities and risks of what they were involving themselves in by choice. Whilst points about the dangers or lack thereof regarding certain drugs, the harshness of sentences, the inconsistencies of sentencing, the corruption or idiocy of local goverments or legal systems or police may be valid in some instances, I feel they are not relevent in this case. This is a case of stupidity pure and simple. Anyone who even thinks about dealing or smuggling drugs in Thailand and doesn't immediately disregard the idea urgently needs their head examined.

[F4UCorsair]

Just now, Franky Bear said:

went way over your head.

never mind

 

 

Obviously there was a subtlety of which I was not aware, so perhaps you would care to simplify your cryptic message??

[Franky Bear]

3 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

I suppose you have conveniently forgotten to mention that the number of people dying in alcohol related accidents versus drug deaths, is a function of how many use the substances.   There are probably a thousand times as many users of alcohol as there are drug users (wild guess, no more), but the number of deaths from alcohol related road crashes isn't a thousand times those from drug use.

 

Give that some thought.

hee hee hee.

You messed up again

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, Franky Bear said:

I'm not part of the homosexual community and don't find male genetalia in any way attractive or sexually arousing. I'm 100% Heterosexual. I'm 100% not homophobic either. I could care less where you put your sausage.

Good luck in finding a "partner" though mate. If you ever come to Thailand you will find many men will fulfil any sexual desire you have, just not in my "inbox" (no pun intended)

Best of luck Amigo 

with all those drugs you swallow I doubt you dont take teh cawk as well(maybe you never realise you have a length in your bottom?).... but hey up to you.

[Franky Bear]

Just now, Don Mega said:

with all those drugs you swallow I doubt you dont take teh cawk as well(maybe you never realise you have a length in your bottom?).... but hey up to you.

Hee Hee Hee 

[TPI]

9 hours ago, joeyg said:

Deal hard drugs.  Should be executed.  Now before you jump on me.  Think of how you'd feel if one of your children got addicted or died from his drugs.  That's what I thought...

 

Sorry mate I don't usually disagree when it comes to drugs, but these guys were pretty harmless selling ecstasy, after all it was legal up to 1972 and is non- addictive! The biggest problems with it is "overheating" by dancing too much and not drinking enough water! The sentances were outragious when you consider that murder's get lower sentances, Thai drug dealers usually get 3-8 years for the same offence! 

[dunroaming]

1 hour ago, Thaidream said:

The sentences are draconian and way too high. Frankly, all drugs should be legal. If you want to sit in your home and take coke, meth, etc go ahead. However, I would make it illegal in public .  If  it was all legal- we wouldn't need huge budgets for enforcement, courts, jails and other things associated with keeping people locked up. Drug cartels would cease to exist. The money saved could be spent on educating people about the dangers of using drugs and  providing treatment for those who are addicted. in addition, people who need to get 'high' from alcohol or drugs are suffering from a neuroses that should be treated. Governments try ad control too much of a person's private life. I am not advocating usage of drugs or alcohol- I simply wouldn't want people to be incareratd unless their usage infringed upon another person's life,

 

Agreed

[F4UCorsair]

9 minutes ago, Franky Bear said:

hee hee hee.

You messed up again

 

There is no point in saying ridiculous things like "it went over your head, never mind", or "you messed up again", without qualifying what you're saying.

 

So, please go ahead.

[Don Mega]

6 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

 

Agreed

 

 

too true. better they peddle their crap in the Philippines where if  caught will get a bullet in the head.

[Vermor]

36 minutes ago, Odin Norway said:

 

Sorry to need to tell you.

A weapon dont kill.People do.

Who do drugs then ?!  Drugs you pay for it, a bullet, usually not...
if weapon don't kill...then we could have less wars on this planet...sorry to tell you
 

[MyFrenU]

10 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

He will be transferred to Australia in 6 years. Hardly over for him.

Plus most civilised countries will release their citizens instantly,after serving any number of years in hellhole prisons in developing,third world countries.Except the UK that is where they will make you serve out 50% of the sentence for some unknown reason?

[F4UCorsair]

Just now, MyFrenU said:

Plus most civilised countries will release their citizens instantly,after serving any number of years in hellhole prisons in developing,third world countries.Except the UK that is where they will make you serve out 50% of the sentence for some unknown reason?

 

 

Not true.   Part of the International Prisoner Transfer programme is that the prisoner must serve the original sentence.

 

Check this link

 

https://www.ag.gov.au/Internationalrelations/Internationalcrimecooperationarrangements/TransferOfPrisoners/Pages/default.aspx