lookforzeros Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I have to make some visits to Soi Mu Ban Phu Thara, coming from Thepprasit and returning around sunset. Unfortunately at that time, the GF has the scooter, so I'm usually reliant on my feet or baht buses. Is it realistic to consider walking back the whole length of Khao Talo after sunset? A bit of internet research suggests that I'd be a nice target for both muggers and angry dogs. Is Khao Talo really that bad? Any advice on getting from Soi Mu Ban Phu Thara to Thepprasit at dusk would be much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Get a motor cycle taxi 100 baht your home. loads around. You can walk it early evening no problem. i have done it. but you will get soi dogs, and its a bit mad on foot at the train tracks. with crazy traffic and no foot path. unlikely to get mugged but you never know. best get the motor cycle taxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merylhighground Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Agree totally with OMC about a motor bike taxi, though Suk can be a bit hairy in rush hour on the back of a bike (or is at least for me). Soi Khao Talo isn't all that bad though I wouldn't fancy it on foot in the dark given some of the driving along there at times.....If you don't mind shelling out and get lucky, a vacant baht Bus may take you back in more safety for around 150-200B (depending on the driver). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceMangosteen Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 No problem with muggers that early. They don't come out until at least 11 PM when the Thai bars start cranking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceMangosteen Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Some helpful posts....get a taxi or charter a song tow...but no one has suggested telling the GF you need the scooter and she should find her own way to work? or renting a second scooter for a month?? Brilliant ideas I'm sure you hadn't thought of. Edited September 18, 2016 by BruceMangosteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceMangosteen Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) As Mike Tyson said..."I used to mug people for fun". It isn't fun early in the evening. Edited September 18, 2016 by BruceMangosteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookforzeros Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thanks everyone. Sounds like a motorbike taxi is the way to go, then. @BruceMangosteen thanks for the suggestion, but the gf is actually making her way back from work at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 9 hours ago, onemorechang said: Get a motor cycle taxi 100 baht your home. loads around. You can walk it early evening no problem. i have done it. but you will get soi dogs, and its a bit mad on foot at the train tracks. with crazy traffic and no foot path. unlikely to get mugged but you never know. best get the motor cycle taxi If your walking make sure you wear a name tag with your address on it. It seems the poster has avoided most of the pitfalls in life the kind that leave indelible impressions on our thinking processes. The world can be your oyster young fellow but just don't get shucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabula Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) You can get mugged anytime, day or night, especially in a retreating economy. Be aware of who is behind you at all times. At night be aware muggers hide in the darkest places and at the end of Sois, under pedestrian crossovers, and between buildings near a walkway. Carry a weapon/s, a knife with a 4" blade, or a telescopic baton, or pepper spray. They are illegal, but the fine is only 100 THB, for each, plus confiscation by the police if searched. . If the above weapons are used in self defense and the Police are called, they will not fine you, nor take the weapons. Good idea to have witnesses names, and cell numbers. I confirmed the above with the Thai Police and the Tourist Police. Walking alone in the dark is not recommended unless you can protect yourself. Everyone should have self defense training, especially women. Strike to shock and hurt and run! Edited September 19, 2016 by Kabula word deletion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkly313 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Actually, the area from Moobaan Phutara to the top of KhaoTalo is quite dangerous after sunset, although getting better since the recent road upgrade & an overabundance of lights installed, and also walking would be difficult right now as that part of road is not yet resurfaced, under construction. You get a lot of mad teenagers using this road as a racetrack, probably fuelled on yabba or laokhao, & the temptation for them to stop & say 'hello' to a lonely wandering farang would be high. Couple of months ago this happened on that stretch: http://news.thaivisa.com/pattaya/woman-shot-as-another-thai-on-thai-armed-robbery-is-reported/147559/ The report isn't entirely accurate as they say the railway road- it wasn't, it was the road past Phutara & Tara Patana school that the OP appears to refer to, called Pattanakarn Road & the robbery was almost directly opposite MooBaan Phutara. So I'd also strongly suggest a motorbike taxi after dark, just for that part of road, once you are in khaoTalo, no probs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooo Upto Me Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, lookforzeros said: Thanks everyone. Sounds like a motorbike taxi is the way to go, then. @BruceMangosteen thanks for the suggestion, but the gf is actually making her way back from work at that time. Best to walk over railway line an get taxi outside Tesco lotus on right. Won't rip u off only 40b up to top of Khatalo. Only 10 min walk from Suk Rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 13 hours ago, onemorechang said: Get a motor cycle taxi 100 baht your home. loads around. You can walk it early evening no problem. i have done it. but you will get soi dogs, and its a bit mad on foot at the train tracks. with crazy traffic and no foot path. unlikely to get mugged but you never know. best get the motor cycle taxi Every night, pick up a hooker, to walk with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, bark said: Every night, pick up a hooker, to walk with you. Good god man !!!! have seen the state of the ladies up that way Shocking indeed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 a smart mugger would have trained soi dogs, to act as decoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alofthailand Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Pay for a taxi/personal baht bus= 200 baht or get a motorsai taxi. Or walk without fear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Often wondered why they call the East side the Darkside,,,,always seemed to me to have the same amount of daylight.....perhaps it refers to the street lighting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merylhighground Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 OP it is worth noting that motorbike taxis can be thin on the ground after 6pm or 'lights out'. Many's the time I've lagged a little, found the pod of drivers I saw earlier have popped off and have had to walk it and hope for an opportunistic 'drive by' picking me up. I like the Darkside. I've spent many a happy afternoon/evening there in the past just wandering around, stumbling on some nice friendly little nooks and crannies. If you get stuck for a ride, nip into a bar and ask them there. The lasses invariably will have a number for a local moto or even stand outside and clap one in for you, especially if you're a good tipper..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The road to Phu Tara is a nightmare at the moment- Grab Taxi is really the only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunebu Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 In a country, where you get cheap and safe transportation everywhere - why consider walking through an area at night that gives you the shivers in the first place? 18 replies - 18 people wasted their valuable time for this... including me, unbelievable!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBsinter Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 If my memory serves me right Khoa talo is solid shops and once past the railway is bars bars and bars,where could you get mugged, by the market has Soi dogs,can be a problem,as i often walked my Dog by there but I cannot recall many muggings,to busy,lol............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Buy a second scooter. Lots of used reliable ones available. It would pay for itself in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 16 hours ago, BruceMangosteen said: Some helpful posts....get a taxi or charter a song tow...but no one has suggested telling the GF you need the scooter and she should find her own way to work? or renting a second scooter for a month?? Brilliant ideas I'm sure you hadn't thought of. Brilliant..hmm...might not be a real good idea to drive a scooter when you been out drinking all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbelyeu Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I have lived off Khao Talo for the last year and the only thing I would be concerned about would be spending too much money on beer during the walk. I've never heard of anyone having issues after dark on this road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceMangosteen Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 6 hours ago, ericthai said: Brilliant..hmm...might not be a real good idea to drive a scooter when you been out drinking all night. I missed the part about being drunk, or a drunk. Drunks do in fact seem to get mugged more often, but of course with less to lose as are near broke and have already sold their gold and given the GF all their pension money. Smart muggers either do it for fun or target the individual based on some insight as to the reward for the act. The fact he won't tell his GF to give him the scooter indicates he's not in control of the situation. She is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Rent another scooter for a week, it will be a few hundred a day! Walking any distance here is a drag anyhow, with the heat, poor surfaces, street dogs etc, plus yes, you might be a target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceMangosteen Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 9 hours ago, Merylhighground said: If you get stuck for a ride, nip into a bar and ask them there. The lasses invariably will have a number for a local moto Yes, that number is often referred to as home....and she paid for the darn motorcycle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceMangosteen Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 53 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Rent another scooter for a week, it will be a few hundred a day! Walking any distance here is a drag anyhow, with the heat, poor surfaces, street dogs etc, plus yes, you might be a target. They had roadblocks set up at all three major roads entering/leaving Pattaya last week, up near Sukhumvit. I noticed yesterday the one on Pattaya Tai was gone. Point being, have some sort of paperwork and DL as roadblocks becoming a real pain in the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, BruceMangosteen said: They had roadblocks set up at all three major roads entering/leaving Pattaya last week, up near Sukhumvit. I noticed yesterday the one on Pattaya Tai was gone. Point being, have some sort of paperwork and DL as roadblocks becoming a real pain in the arse. Went in and out yesterday without any blocks. They are often on the railway line bypass too though. Common at motorway flyover and the 7 or 15 junctions. Not normally a big deal as have all my documents with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 It's about 3.5 km to Sukhumvit.....of which 1.5 km to Khao Talo and there you may find the first motorbike taxis. Use Grab-taxi (car of biike version) and for 250-300 baht they take you home without sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 15 hours ago, onemorechang said: Good god man !!!! have seen the state of the ladies up that way Shocking indeed . Nope. But my idea would be to throw her to the soi dogs, so that you can escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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