jesimps Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I was going to say "Unbelievable", but it isn't, it's very believable in this country. You have just one option here, lay down and let the rich and powerful walk all over you, because you have no hope of redress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmac10 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 3 hours ago, bark said: Most countries do not show people being killed. They just do it; No can finds out. Who woke you up? go back to your rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 3 hours ago, bark said: Murder by the army is done in most countries. Just here they do it openly. It isn't so much the murder it's the vindictiveness against the victim's family which stands out in this case. Incredible lack of contrition, sympathy and understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 6 hours ago, Hawk said: They will use threats, intimidation, bullying and violence to suppress critics because they have the power to do so. Have others not tried and succeeded with suppression? Recall the threats and intimidation of the media a few years back. One pointed example. a foreign journnalist, at a media session, who asked the paymaster an awkward question. Paymasters' response was 'idiot scum' and asked for the next question. Journalist was deported the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, scorecard said: Have others not tried and succeeded with suppression? Recall the threats and intimidation of the media a few years back. One pointed example. a foreign journnalist, at a media session, who asked the paymaster an awkward question. Paymasters' response was 'idiot scum' and asked for the next question. Journalist was deported the next day. Yeah, like there is any comparison there whatsoever. However we shall mark you down as one who has no problem with this prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Quote No one was ever held legally accountable .... Seems like I read these words, or some version of them, pretty much every day around this place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 24 minutes ago, baboon said: Yeah, like there is any comparison there whatsoever. However we shall mark you down as one who has no problem with this prosecution. As if there was ever any doubt! A particularly feeble ,"but but but" excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 A post in violation of this forum rule has been removed: 11) You will not post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards Thailand, specific locations, Thai institutions such as the judicial or law enforcement system, Thai culture, Thai people or any other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 8 hours ago, JAG said: Exactly that. To be with my family. And the hope that when the whole rotten edifice collapses ( and it will ) something better, emerges from the rubble. The Thai people deserve it. For it to collapse the average person would have to shake off centuries of class oppression, brain washing and being subservient. Would also need a healthy disrespect for authority and be educated enough to question the status quo. In short your talking about revolution and I just don't think the Thai people have got it in them. They certainly deserve better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Snake grunt converts rookie into Soylent Green - and will now surely get a medal for it. ...and a promotion (for the non-military type: a 'snake' is the term given to SGTs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 13 hours ago, bark said: Most countries do not show people being killed. They just do it; No can finds out. try "Live Leak" if u want to see people being killed, shot ,beheaded ,skewered, raped etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 10 hours ago, jesimps said: I was going to say "Unbelievable", but it isn't, it's very believable in this country. You have just one option here, lay down and let the rich and powerful walk all over you, because you have no hope of redress. actually there is some hope but after youve killed them youll probably join them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, JAG said: Not content with shooting themselves in the foot, they are now trying to do so with a howitzer! Do these people have any inkling of how absurd they are making themselves, and the state which they purport to serve, look? The rich and powerful seem to still be rich and powerful. So I guess it's working for them, no matter how absurd it may seem to us. Crafty, they are. To the outside world? They don't care... It'll be forgotten in favor of cheap hotels and pretty women when it's time to plan the next holiday. Edit: Meanwhile, the next person considering pooping in the punch bowl is having second thoughts. Edited September 24, 2016 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saraphee Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) 22 hours ago, JAG said: Exactly that. To be with my family. And the hope that when the whole rotten edifice collapses ( and it will ) something better, emerges from the rubble. The Thai people deserve it. Sadly, the Thai people don't appear to deserve it. They are the one's that allow the system to perpetuate. Tell them, not us TV commentators. Edited September 24, 2016 by Saraphee change context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 if the Dill (of a) Snake was a 3 striper back when all this started - what is his Rank now?? was he rapidly and quietly promoted, in order to protect the system from lowly outsiders? but then one only gets promoted - up to their level of incompetance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 20 minutes ago, robblok said: However bad Thai politicians are to compare them with serial killers is a step to far. I know. It was a joke (that's what the lol smiley was for). But Thai politicians are bad enough that for enlightened westerners such as ourselves to be anything other than interested observers/commentators is plainly absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just now, baboon said: The rest of what you had to say was perfectly reasonable, even though we are never going to agree on which is the lesser of the two evils. But that is no problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, robblok said: Not my history.. I am not American and far younger then you. So to expect me to know all about American history is crazy. McCarthy is before my time too, as it goes. You lazy bones. (No North Americans in this post.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 The officer filing this defamation charge has influential connections through his father, General Choke Perksophon, who is a senior member of ISOC and a member of army class 14 along with several junta members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akampa Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) To the outside world? They don't care... It'll be forgotten in favor of cheap hotels and pretty women when it's time to plan the next holiday. I think this statement sums up that what happens here in Thailand stays in Thailand. On 24/09/2016 at 8:39 AM, impulse said: The rich and powerful seem to still be rich and powerful. So I guess it's working for them, no matter how absurd it may seem to us. Crafty, they are. To the outside world? They don't care... It'll be forgotten in favor of cheap hotels and pretty women when it's time to plan the next holiday. Edit: Meanwhile, the next person considering pooping in the punch bowl is having second thoughts. Edited September 25, 2016 by akampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 0:23 PM, Tatsujin said: Again, wow, how <deleted> up is this? In what world does telling the truth = defamation??? THE WORLD OF THAILAND Truth is not a defense in a defamation case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Orac said: The officer filing this defamation charge has influential connections through his father, General Choke Perksophon, who is a senior member of ISOC and a member of army class 14 along with several junta members. Ah ha - born into it! I suppose the charges will stick then... Rather explains the rapid promotion as well. I do wonder how these "warriors" would behave in a real firefight - actually no, I have a pretty good idea what they would be like. Edited September 25, 2016 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bull Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 They make old Hitler look like a nice guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Well, it is only a filing (but should not have happened) and now up to a "court" to dismiss or uphold. The court's decision will remove any doubt about the stupidity of this Thai law. Slightly OT - shouldn't corrupt ROYAL Thai Police be charged with les majeste for defaming their King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 23/9/2559 at 6:49 PM, bobmac10 said: Who woke you up? go back to your rock So the special forces of countries do not kill people ? I think my rock; fell on your head ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Bark, this story isn't about covert warfare. It's about the peacetime torturing to death of an army conscript by his colleagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacChang Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 When justice is not served, bombs will appear in the officer's car. There is no escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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