dundee48 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 5 hours ago, mikebell said: I think it has slightly improved for foreigners but got a whole lot worse for Thais! Don`t think Andy Hall would agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakhonandy Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 6 hours ago, mikebell said: I think it has slightly improved for foreigners but got a whole lot worse for Thais! I am curious as to how it has improved for foreigners. Foreign tourists and the new visa regulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Isnt it a shame it is always Thai's who tell us Thailands image is improving across the world. It never seems to come from other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 " Thanks to the current situation in Thailand which has been peaceful "... errr... Does he not know about the two recent bombing campaigns then? Or the continuance of terror campaigns in the south? I'm gobsmacked and I'm not normally gobsmacked by what comes out of his mouth! Maybe it's the students getting locked up for daring to voice opinions that the rest of the World like so much? Beats me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 What has definitely improved are the generals and their close kins bank accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 7 hours ago, taichiplanet said: it is delusional to think that the International community thinks much about Thailand, let alone thought warmly of. Personally I don't think the international community gives a rats about Thailand, except maybe China, it is not a strategic location, considering Viet Nam is now more "friendly" and welcoming, that and the fact it doesn't particularly like China. Manufacturing are looking more and more to other nations, cheaper, more sable and your not as likely to have the carpet pulled out from under you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 According to the Corruption Perceptions Index Thailand came in at 76th place with a ranking of 38 out of a possible 100 in 2015 which is the same as 2014. So where's the improvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
performance Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yes they understand that you arrest people with mocked up sections and Lese charges. They also understand that you can be attacked and even killed. Due to the fact that Thais know foreigners are not favoured. Along with no law reforms. Nothing only talk. I believe your out with your road map. But took a wrong turn in Esan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 He is living in a bubble. Only a matter of time when this bubble burst. I hope I'm then not in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 4 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Disagree. I think the days of cheap popular masses being roused to protect Shin assets and get that family back in control of the trough to enrich themselves are gone. Shin political vehicles and very undemocratic UDD are being seen for what they are. However, there are a few non Shin controlled organizations springing up. What their character is like we have yet to see. As for the UN - very expensive total waste of space. Anything that goes off there is poppycock. well i hope you are right. however if my time in thailand has taught me anything is that power corrupts and the current government that is currently in power have almost absolute power. the last thing they have to achieve is muzzling the cops. i will be surprised if the minority can really govern the majority. but time will tell. i have sold up everything and am in a good position to leave at short notice because i am fairly sure things will go down hill from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markusangel Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Just being "welcome" equates a "good image"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Disagree. I think the days of cheap popular masses being roused to protect Shin assets and get that family back in control of the trough to enrich themselves are gone. Shin political vehicles and very undemocratic UDD are being seen for what they are. However, there are a few non Shin controlled organizations springing up. What their character is like we have yet to see. As for the UN - very expensive total waste of space. Anything that goes off there is poppycock. No one knows though, do they, because the "cheap popular masses" (the very phrase oozes contempt doesn't it) are being denied the opportunity to indulge in any political activity aren't they? You may recall this is being done by a military junta which allowed the blocking of a constitutional election, in order to create the opportunity to overthrow an elected government (which had been chosen by those "cheap popular masses"), and suspended the constitution, including just about all political freedoms, Take away the threat of imprisonment without proper trial for any political activity, and we might just have a better idea of what the "cheap popular masses" think. They won't risk that, I wonder why? Edited September 25, 2016 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467848 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Xircal said: According to the Corruption Perceptions Index Thailand came in at 76th place with a ranking of 38 out of a possible 100 in 2015 which is the same as 2014. So where's the improvement? Somebody should send this report to he who must be obeyed... Thanks to the internet and multimedia, it's amazing how he thinks he can pull the wool over peoples eyes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Thailand’s image in the international community has improved. says the little man with his unexplainable wealth who rose to the top of Thailand's most corrupt organization only to make the jump to "officially" control the entire country after his military coup and has subsequently run the country's economy into the ditch, removed any pretence of respect for human rights and simultaneously executed a political purge while dramatically changing the balance of the country's alliances to those countries which have more appreciation for Generals being in control of everything... Sure, he's believable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 hour ago, merlin2002 said: Somebody should send this report to he who must be obeyed... Thanks to the internet and multimedia, it's amazing how he thinks he can pull the wool over peoples eyes.. Indeed! We're no longer living in the age of typewriters and printed newspapers, but the PM doesn't seem to grasp that fact. There's an even worse finding by the FIDH where they reported on the human rights conference in Geneva which took place on May 11 this year which a Thai delegation attended. It makes for interesting reading but I think it's too controversial and sensitive to post a link to it here. But if you Google the following search string, it should appear at the top of the list: fidh.org Thailand government deceives international community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 hour ago, merlin2002 said: Somebody should send this report to he who must be obeyed... Thanks to the internet and multimedia, it's amazing how he thinks he can pull the wool over peoples eyes.. Indeed! We're no longer living in the age of typewriters and printed newspapers, but the PM doesn't seem to grasp that fact. There's an even worse finding by the FIDH where they reported on the human rights conference in Geneva which took place on May 11 this year which a Thai delegation attended. It makes for interesting reading but I think it's too controversial and sensitive to post a link to it here. But if you Google the following search string, it should appear at the top of the list: fidh.org Thailand government deceives international community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 7 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Disagree. I think the days of cheap popular masses being roused to protect Shin assets and get that family back in control of the trough to enrich themselves are gone. Shin political vehicles and very undemocratic UDD are being seen for what they are. "Cheap popular masses"?!?" You are sounding like Sonthi Limtongkul. Are these masses to be juxtaposed with the tightwad and venal Sino-Thai Hi-Sos and their partners in crime? People forget that Thaksin won the hearts and minds of the larger population by throwing them some bones while raping the country. The now slowly being dismantled Shin political vehicles are being replaced by new and equally rapacious political vehicles controlled by the newly empowered Chan-Ocha clan. If all the current trends continue Thailand shall become the next North Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Baerboxer said: System error double post Edited September 25, 2016 by Johpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 12 hours ago, abrahamzvi said: Do you prefer the "democracy" of the last few years prior to the last coup, which caused absolute chaos and open corruption, to the way of return to eventual democracy and a peaceful situation in Thailand (except for the south where even a full western like democracy won't stop the terror), set out in the proposed charter? I know which alternative I prefer. I stopped believing fairy stories aged about 3 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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