Briton gets 4,000 baht fine for not staying where he was registered

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Briton gets 4,000 baht fine for not staying where he was registered

 

Images: Immigration Chonburi

 

PATTAYA: -- A Briton in Pattaya was slapped with a four thousand baht fine by immigration for not staying where he had said he was residing.

 

John Paul Withers, 38, was found to be staying in a place where he was not registered and was fined according to 1979 immigration regulations.

 

He was one of the latest casualties featured on the Chonburi Immigration website under the banner "Good guys in, Bad guys out".

 

Immigration warned foreigners that they should stay where they have registered or would face fines. Mr.Withers was fined after immigration looked into the registration of foreigners in the Banglamung area on September 13th.

 

In other news a 41 year old Kyrgyzstan national called Nikita Komissarov was arrested in the lobby of the Royal Cliff Beach hotel on Friday last. He was found to have overstayed by 714 days.

 

 

He claimed that his passport was damaged and he couldn't go home.

 

Two restaurants have also been the subject of arrests for having illegal workers and hiring illegal workers.

 

On the 19th of September 25 Cambodians were arrested at the Sense of the Sea in Jomtien for working in Thailand illegally. Owner Phanom Bandasak, 33, was taken to Na Jomtien police station for hiring them.

 

And on the 22nd of September The Living Bistro and Bar in Banglamung was raided and ten illegal workers were found. Owner Somchai Wongcharnsri was arrested for hiring them.

 

Source: Immigration 1, Immigration Chonburi 2

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-09-26

 

[alocacoc]

Good Job Immigration fro the 4k THB. Just do everything what is possible to shy away tourists. I think, the best solution could be to to assign to every foreigner an guide, like in North Korea.

Edited September 26, 2016 by alocacoc

[KhunBENQ]

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In other news a 41 year old Kyrgyzstan national called Nikita Komissarov was arrested in the lobby of the Royal Cliff Beach hotel on Friday last. He was found to have overstayed by 714 days.

He claimed that his passport was damaged and he couldn't go home.

 

Overstay deluxe at Royal Cliff

 

He could not go home because his passport was damaged.

Haha, nice try

We don't expect a little problem when going home, don't we

[Basil B]

38 minutes ago, alocacoc said:

Good Job Immigration fro the 4k THB. Just do everything what is possible to shy away tourists. I think, the best solution could be to to assign to every foreigner an guide, like in North Korea.

Was this for not staying where he stated on a TM landing card one has to fill out on arrival?

 

If it was because he was not staying where he stated when doing a 90 days reporting then hardly a tourist...

[Baerboxer]

What interesting arm tats. 

 

Good guys in - bad guys out.

[Mickmouse1]

To be fair this is a constipated rule which was also applied by UK IMMIG at one time and maybe still in force.Simply inform the Sharks that U changed your address n you will be safe BAD GUY?

[tomwct]

1 hour ago, alocacoc said:

Good Job Immigration fro the 4k THB. Just do everything what is possible to shy away tourists. I think, the best solution could be to to assign to every foreigner an guide, like in North Korea.

That's a good idea. Immigration pays for a huge government employment, so with every tourist comes one government job, as an escort.

There will be a government job for every tourist in Thailand. Brilliant, as the British say!

[realenglish1]

This is bad for Thailand to fine someone like this The publicly will hurt tourism if the media decide to play this one

 

 

[flyingdoc]

Incredible !

[Basil B]

I do not see it as a " constipated rule", I think it only fair that any country can require all persons to register where they live, and if temporary like a hotel or guest house then they should have register.

 

Wish they would do this in the UK, it would make it more difficult for the illegal immigrants and easier to find wanted people. 

[catman20]

10 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

What interesting arm tats. 

 

Good guys in - bad guys out.

but should of been fine 40,000 baht.

[Basil B]

1 minute ago, catman20 said:

but should of been fine 40,000 baht.

40,000 for each tattoo... 

[Ronuk]

Why is it so hard for those living here to comply with the rules? The days of doing as you like here are rapidly coming to an end. 

[catman20]

Just now, Basil B said:

40,000 for each tattoo... 

agreed plus 40,000 for not being registrar at the right address

[Hooliganzone]

8 minutes ago, Mickmouse1 said:

To be fair this is a constipated rule which was also applied by UK IMMIG at one time and maybe still in force.Simply inform the Sharks that U changed your address n you will be safe BAD GUY?

Many single people come here just on a flight and find a place to stay after they have arrived, so how can you write the name of the place your going to stay on the TM card if you don't know where.

[SaintLouisBlues]

6 minutes ago, Basil B said:

I do not see it as a " constipated rule", I think it only fair that any country can require all persons to register where they live, and if temporary like a hotel or guest house then they should have register.

 

Wish they would do this in the UK, it would make it more difficult for the illegal immigrants and easier to find wanted people. 

It's like driving a car without a licence - you can do it for years and years and years, and may never get caught. Same for registering where people live. It's only when people have a reason to go looking they find out you're not there

[Hooliganzone]

16 minutes ago, Mickmouse1 said:

To be fair this is a constipated rule which was also applied by UK IMMIG at one time and maybe still in force.Simply inform the Sharks that U changed your address n you will be safe BAD GUY?

Many single people come here just on a flight and find a place to stay after they have arrived, so how can you write the name of the place your going to stay on the TM card if you don't know where.

 

3 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

It's like driving a car without a licence - you can do it for years and years and years, and may never get caught. Same for registering where people live. It's only when people have a reason to go looking they find out you're not there

Years back when I didn't have a permanent address I used to just write Pattaya as place residing thats it and nobody ever questioned it, I don't know nowadays.

[yellowboat]

1 hour ago, alocacoc said:

Good Job Immigration fro the 4k THB. Just do everything what is possible to shy away tourists. I think, the best solution could be to to assign to every foreigner an guide, like in North Korea.

China too asks that all foreigners be registered by their hotel, though they are not as strict as the Thais. 

[Basil B]

1 minute ago, Hooliganzone said:

Many single people come here just on a flight and find a place to stay after they have arrived, so how can you write the name of the place your going to stay on the TM card if you don't know where.

 

having  to write where one is staying on a TM while in transit... I assume most would be like my TM cards eligible, never been asked to rewrite it or "where you stay?", I think once I just wrote "Bangkok"... if a genuine tourist one is likely to be staying where there is proper registering of guests and will be in the Kingdom for less than 30 days.

 

[Basil B]

Looking at the Photo... Brit??? maybe on a forged passport, did they check his freezer???

[kannot]

16 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

Why is it so hard for those living here to comply with the rules? The days of doing as you like here are rapidly coming to an end. 

and should apply equally to Thais too

[anon4637435435]

Evil evil farang! Why stop at ฿4000. Prison time, firing squad, electric chair?

I can not understand the logic of this rule. Absolutely giving the wrong message i think. So infantile and humiliating i think for the country to implement such.

So let me get this right theres a task force that goes door knocking for money. I dont see how this practice would achieve much else.

Maybe they could head out to where i live and fine the illegal loggers, charcoal makers and sellers, petty crims, selling dirt from sorpakor land, drug makers in the jungle, forest land burning, land encroachment, rewriting land titles, etc, etc... Most of those are supposed to be more than ฿4000thb per offense. Have to get your priorities right though i guess. 

Maybe ill be fined. My address is too big to fit on the form so always incomplete.

[Breizh]

As far as I understand it is for the owner of the hotel you stay in or the owner of the house you are renting to fill the TM30 form and bring it to the immigration. So this guy may have been fined for someone's else "mistake".

[Ronuk]

7 minutes ago, kannot said:

and should apply equally to Thais too

It's not about Thais. It's about foreigners being incapable of complying with the rules. 

Wait and see what is about to develop over the next 12 months for those that fail to comply. Some would say it's about time too.

 

[silent]

16 minutes ago, catman20 said:

agreed plus 40,000 for not being registrar at the right address

Let he who is without sin throw the biggest stone.This is like making front page news for a fine less than the lowest speeding ticket where most of us are from. Please be real.

[than]

Law is law

join or leave Thailand

[bark]

27 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

Why is it so hard for those living here to comply with the rules? The days of doing as you like here are rapidly coming to an end. 

Do you really think so ?

Two people arrested.

How many people on Thai Visa are illegally here ?

I think it is a few hundred; at least. 

Like the USA , with 10 million illegals. I sure Thailand has 10-20 thousand. And the Cambodians don't count.

I sure there are 100,000 of them and Burmese.

 

[laislica]

25 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

Why is it so hard for those living here to comply with the rules? The days of doing as you like here are rapidly coming to an end. 

 

Perhaps it's hard because the visitor didn't know that his address needed to be reported?

 

When you arrived in Thailand, did Immigration give you a list of all the things that you must do to comply with Immigration laws?

When I arrive with many months of visa or extension, they remind me to do 90 day reports, but that's all.

I fill in the arrival card on the plane so I and maybe others suppose that the address requirement has been fulfilled?

 

My Thai wife had no idea about the TM30, even suggested it was not required....

If I had not joined TVF, I would never have known!

 

[catman20]

1 minute ago, silent said:

Let he who is without sin throw the biggest stone.This is like making front page news for a fine less than the lowest speeding ticket where most of us are from. Please be real.

people that do not respect the immigration laws and rules of a country allowing them to stay should have heavy fines its the only way to teach people a lesson

[BigSkip]

4000b for this............ but 500b for stabbing a tourist who does not want to buy your fake Rolex...........sounds fair