prk888 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 can anyone confirm these illegal but longstanding buildings (including Ton Haad and Sea Falcon restaurants) are being/will be demolished? Excellent news no doubt in my view if true. Now for the other beaches ................. Thanks and I'll try to pop down at weekend to check it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Don't hold your breath, the illegal 101 businesses on Pattaya Beach have been under demolition order for 20 years now. They're still standing. Besides, Sea Falcon is a good restaurant, who would want it gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 thanks, and as i have a condo right on that beach i do know all those places including Drifters, Daemon Dayz etc so of immediate interest naturally. Some very good eateries there. I have just returned from overseas and today have been told that the northen structures have already gone. Maybe will try to get down to see earlier and report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Weren't all those places there a long time before the condos were built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 yes many years before. About 8 years ago when ours were built they all had demolition notices posted but then there was not a Military Government and nothing was enforced except the Governor stated no more structures or modifications would be allowed to existing structures and that was basically adhered to (well almost !). It will be interesting to see what's what this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 can confirm the first 300m approx and both sides of cul de sac ( southwards ) have been demolished including half of Ton Haad restaurant. Everyone else going south on beach unsure if and when they will have to go. Deadline is end of October supposedly. Interesting times we live in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Bummer how old Thailand is being ripped apart. Most don't even know the old school here 25 yr ago though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipeflaw Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I can confirm it is happening and Ton Had is being dismantled - they are trying to move across the street. While the restaurants are passable in a pinch, the open beach with no trash is highly preferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said: i heard from the owner of drifters that he is paying a small rental to the navy for the use of the beach. wonder if the army are not happy with that. will ask him when i see him next month. see my post above ID5. At the time of 'negotiations' peppercorn rents were arranged by those in charge with many beach business owners and owner Tony at Drifters was included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 hours ago, prk888 said: see my post above ID5. At the time of 'negotiations' peppercorn rents were arranged by those in charge with many beach business owners and owner Tony at Drifters was included quite like drifters and tony is a good guy. army seem hell bent on tearing buildings down and getting rid of deck chairs. some places are better off left as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Noon Tuedsay 4th - Ton Haad restaurant now almost gone and northern rubble being gradually cleared. Sea Falcon slightly south is a very well constructed large restaurant so we will see ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, prk888 said: Noon Tuedsay 4th - Ton Haad restaurant now almost gone and northern rubble being gradually cleared. Sea Falcon slightly south is a very well constructed large restaurant so we will see ................... Mate - could you give directions to this exact area - I'm not familiar with the places you are referring to, and I'd like to go have a look-see for curiosity's sake. Appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I believe the area is between Wat Na Jomtien and the Ambassador hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 yes going south the Soi 8 leading to beach is almost opposite Alangkarn Theatre (or about 1km north of Ambassador City Hotel) . The Pinnacle Hotel is signposted in Soi 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Hi. I don't know these restaurants, but looking at GoogleMaps here it looks like Ton Hat and See Falcon are "on the river" (east side) not "on the beach" (west side). Some posts above seems to say they are "on the beach"?? Could someone clarify please. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Pattaya46 said: Hi. I don't know these restaurants, but looking at GoogleMaps here it looks like Ton Hat and See Falcon are "on the river" (east side) not "on the beach" (west side). Some posts above seems to say they are "on the beach"?? Could someone clarify please. Thanks please read my post ID3, Hope that clarifies. I lived there & still have a condo on the beach. All that I and others have referred to are on the beach (albeit illegally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 First, for those who don't know this place, Na Jomtien starts at the extreme South of Jomtien beach, more or less where the "river" is. The demolitions occur on the beach on the west of the land who extends along the river exit. See here on GoogleMap The Na Jomtien "river" Na Jomtien beach road. River on the right, beach & sea on the left. South of this beach road, no more road and no evident construction on the beach The beach could be nice, but rubbish everywhere Drifter Cafe "on the beach" Sea Falcon "on the beach" Clear water and lot of fishes Digger at work. 2 of them. From here to the North extremity, everything on the sea-side of the street has been destroyed Kind enough to not destroy that Ton Hat sea-side part of the restaurant. River side part untouched. At the North extremity, nothing left... even on the river side. Fishing boats on the river And a new condo being built in the middle Public land encroachment. It's a shame the quantity of concrete they poured on the beach along the years! Here should be a 15 meters wide sand beach Counting its last days... same... same for everything built on the sea-side of the street From the North extremity to this 90° turn of the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 @Pattaya46 taking photos ?? lots of room now for a new "luxury" condo complex right on the sea front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 these pics perfectly sum up the situation . Currently demolition today has stopped at Ton Haad who have already opened again on the eastern road side opposite their old now-gone restaurant. The next challenge is as i said the Sea Falcon, great food and big structure but it hardly seems likely that this and the others will be left standing - think about the ramifications if that were to occur ! Several owners i spoke to today plan to open again in their properties directly opposite their soon-to-be-demolished beach businesses and that could apply to Sea Falcon, Drifters, Daemon Dayz and SY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 9 hours ago, Pattaya46 said: And a new condo being built in the middle I assume that is the Whale condo. How legal that one will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 On 30/09/2016 at 8:18 PM, thaibeachlovers said: On 05/10/2016 at 10:30 PM, Anthony5 said: I assume that is the Whale condo. How legal that one will be? As at today still no demolition movement south of Ton Haad who are now operating on eastern side and not on beach. However lots of their table and chairs are now on beach - there's always a way !! But these furnitures ARE removable. DRIFTERS very busy so that would be really missed. Demolished beach strip beginning to look attractive again (from a distance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 We saw the demolition before we left, but didn't know it went as far as the Ton Had restaurant! We go to Drifters often. If they go, what about Glass House? And the dozen or more places on the beach there down to the Ambassador? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, craigt3365 said: We saw the demolition before we left, but didn't know it went as far as the Ton Had restaurant! We go to Drifters often. If they go, what about Glass House? And the dozen or more places on the beach there down to the Ambassador? dont go that way down now so no ideas - sorry. BUT if Sea Falcon is to go then maybe, just maybe ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: We saw the demolition before we left, but didn't know it went as far as the Ton Had restaurant! We go to Drifters often. If they go, what about Glass House? And the dozen or more places on the beach there down to the Ambassador? just a thought Craig do keep eyes open down there for any official signs indicating a 'due date' for demolition (see pics above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, prk888 said: just a thought Craig do keep eyes open down there for any official signs indicating a 'due date' for demolition (see pics above) We know the owners of several of these places quite well. Very well, actually. We're back in a few weeks. will investigate then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Bummer how old Thailand is being ripped apart. Most don't even know the old school here 25 yr ago thoughI can remember te Land/Range Rover Showroom being built,now gone ,and the first 7/11 when there was only one way inThere were only 3Hotels and perhaps 4Jet Ski chaps charging 250 for 60 mins.One beach bar,that gave free shots when it thunderd,those days won't be backSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 On 9/30/2016 at 5:43 AM, williamgeorgeallen said: quite like drifters and tony is a good guy. army seem hell bent on tearing buildings down and getting rid of deck chairs. some places are better off left as they are. If the army really are intent on demolishing structures encroaching the beach illegally I look forward to them posting the demolition order for View Talay 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: If the army really are intent on demolishing structures encroaching the beach illegally I look forward to them posting the demolition order for View Talay 7. No chance ever . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I'll up your VT7. With 101 walking street businesses and Waterfront condo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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