prk888 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 The good beach restaurant know as SY just south of Drifters has now been demolished. What a difference at the northern end of the soi - cleared and now so open & spacious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Lookind towards Jomtien ,all but a few behind me have been blitzed on the beach side.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 They seem to have stopped the destruction derby just before the sea falcon restaurant, drifters was still there this morning (30/10/16) but a building immediately next to it has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It is rather a Muddle,I've gone back to Krabi.I just can't see who is going to want anymore Condos. I leave rather confused.[emoji86]Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 my perception after eating and chatting down there today is that long-time businesses like SY and Ton Haad have accepted the inevitable but are being realistically businesslike and will almost certainly use their beach fronts for movable furniture (tables, chairs and umbrellas etc) thus staying within the letter of the law, ie no illegal structures & encroachment on the beach. SY are currently removing their erstwhile restaurant concrete floors to no doubt expose a beach again. The smaller businesses (exclude Sea Falcon maybe) still indicate they are hanging in there until the end. Drifters on Saturday at about 1830 had 23 customers eating drinking and enjoying the sometime obscured sunset and heavy rains. Certainly will be missed by many. I am told they also plan to move opposite (east) into their shop-houses so who knows we may still be able to sit on the waters edge with a beer and Mon's pizza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 hours ago, prk888 said: my perception after eating and chatting down there today is that long-time businesses like SY and Ton Haad have accepted the inevitable but are being realistically businesslike and will almost certainly use their beach fronts for movable furniture (tables, chairs and umbrellas etc) thus staying within the letter of the law, ie no illegal structures & encroachment on the beach. SY are currently removing their erstwhile restaurant concrete floors to no doubt expose a beach again. The smaller businesses (exclude Sea Falcon maybe) still indicate they are hanging in there until the end. Drifters on Saturday at about 1830 had 23 customers eating drinking and enjoying the sometime obscured sunset and heavy rains. Certainly will be missed by many. I am told they also plan to move opposite (east) into their shop-houses so who knows we may still be able to sit on the waters edge with a beer and Mon's pizza Sad to lose Drifters! Great place to watch the sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naidraw66 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I have an unit in the newly built Waters Edge condo. Demolitions have stopped now until the New Year and then will proceed, this was confirmed in a meeting with the authorities some months ago. All premisses will go at least up to the resort on the corner, I did not enquire as to what was happening from there on as it doesnt hold any intrest for me. The beach front will be developed similar to the area near the Marina situated just down the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 So SY restaurant, as was, is now all cleared to expose the beach again. Ton Haad furniture (all movable) is laid out neatly on the beach and eastern side seating being extended. so maybe business as normal for them but this time within the law (well maybe just about) It will be interesting if and when and by whom the current 'cleared' beach actually is eventually cleared of the remaining exposed rebars, rubble and low concreted areas. An issue that is of interest to me personally as it is in front of my condo is the beach and the 'village sala'. This is now falling apart, and along with a rotting aquarium & rotting kids playground stuff is quite dangerous and the whole once relatively pristine area has been claimed and sadly despoiled by village locals (not visitors) over the recent past. Wonder if this is categorised as an illegal structure too. Hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 the north -western (seaside) area with the turning space has now had plenty of sand strewn over it. Some steel rusty rebars still exposed sadly. Sand taken from eastern side so big hole there now. It will be interesting to see how this whole area develops and who becomes responsible for upkeep. It could turn out to be a very successful relaxing family picnicking area although car parking not plentiful. Ton Haad settling in nicely with eastern restaurant area being properly developed and plenty of furniture on the beach itself. No further movement from SY restaurant yet. still just empty sandy area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 SY now has beautified the now-cleared beach and as with Ton Haad has restaurant tables & chairs on beach ready for customers. Like Ton Haad maybe accepting the inevitable but with no fixed beach structures involved. Sea Falcon relates their on-going negotiations with the Authorities. Drifters still busy As my Thai wife says she believes it will be extremely difficult for the remaining businesses to now be left untouched by the Authorities but TIT as we know What will 2017 bring and when ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, prk888 said: SY now has beautified the now-cleared beach and as with Ton Haad has restaurant tables & chairs on beach ready for customers. Like Ton Haad maybe accepting the inevitable but with no fixed beach structures involved. Sea Falcon relates their on-going negotiations with the Authorities. Drifters still busy As my Thai wife says she believes it will be extremely difficult for the remaining businesses to now be left untouched by the Authorities but TIT as we know What will 2017 bring and when ? I think there's a lot of uncertainty as to what's going to happen. The pendulum swings too far from one side to the other here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: I think there's a lot of uncertainty as to what's going to happen. The pendulum swings too far from one side to the other here! I totally agree but with the 2 most well established businesses having already bowed to what are in fact Court Orders and with Military might being the driving force (or was it actually The Whale developers initially !?) what sensible face-saving options are still available to the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 On 05/12/2016 at 5:43 PM, craigt3365 said: I think there's a lot of uncertainty as to what's going to happen. The pendulum swings too far from one side to the other here! I totally agree but with the 2 most well established businesses having already bowed to what are in fact Court Orders and with Military might being the driving force (or was it actually The Whale developers initially !?) what sensible face-saving options are still available to the others? *************************************************************************** Latest ............... Talking to one of the restaurant owners it appears a compromise may be in progress and that is that remaining owners have been given a reprieve until the current high season is over ............... whenever that is. Drifters as busy as ever and Deamon Dayz too with lots of sailors launching from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 On 9/28/2016 at 9:06 PM, LongTimeLurker said: Weren't all those places there a long time before the condos were built? Point being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro1 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 quite like drifters and tony is a good guy. army seem hell bent on tearing buildings down and getting rid of deck chairs. some places are better off left as they are.Those things are not deck chairs but torture devices for anyone over 6 feet and they are ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Those Deck Chair things are Thai Disgrace.Who other than destitute would rent one.?.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Ace of Pop said: Those Deck Chair things are Thai Disgrace.Who other than destitute would rent one.?. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Duhh ! Destitutes wouldnt spend money they dont have renting deck chairs on Na Jomtien beach sipping a Drifter's cold beer or eating a Drifters thin crust pizza surely. Stay on topic please if possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 On 26/10/2016 at 9:27 AM, LongTimeLurker said: If the army really are intent on demolishing structures encroaching the beach illegally I look forward to them posting the demolition order for View Talay 7. There was a lot of legal argument and many of the now owners bought in good faith, my thoughts are there should be an investigation into it and all the corrupt officials including maybe some judges and those who corrupted them should be in prison, their assets seized and used to compensate the owners of VT7 if it is knocked down or to compensate the owners of property blighted by VT7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The court ruled that VT7 was built legally due to it being more than 100 meters from shore line...there was much debate about where the shore line actually is but in the end the court agreed that VT7 was lawfull,same with the Waterfront Condo at Bali hai that is 101 meters from the shore line but has other problems like the building permit not being legally issued,not built to the permit specifications,too close to the road,not enough parking,use of land cut from the hillside etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Champa has pointed out that it was the building control bureau that ruled the Waterfront permit illegal. not a court ,apologies for my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Sunbeds,development after demolition is very much on topic thank you.When these silly boys have finished their infighting I want to buy into a nice development in that area and perhaps sit on the beach for a while on Sunbed,not on Jomtiens ex Margate 1930 Deck Chairs..Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 . All this wasted for what?.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 1/21/2017 at 9:58 AM, sandgroper2 said: Point being? That it's odd that the condo owners are complaining about the restaurants that were there a long time before them and they were well aware of their existence at the time the condos were built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 08/11/2016 at 1:39 PM, prk888 said: So SY restaurant, as was, is now all cleared to expose the beach again. Ton Haad furniture (all movable) is laid out neatly on the beach and eastern side seating being extended. so maybe business as normal for them but this time within the law (well maybe just about) It will be interesting if and when and by whom the current 'cleared' beach actually is eventually cleared of the remaining exposed rebars, rubble and low concreted areas. An issue that is of interest to me personally as it is in front of my condo is the beach and the 'village sala'. This is now falling apart, and along with a rotting aquarium & rotting kids playground stuff is quite dangerous and the whole once relatively pristine area has been claimed and sadly despoiled by village locals (not visitors) over the recent past. Wonder if this is categorised as an illegal structure too. Hope so. the Tessa Baan has removed all the dangerous rotting steelwork thankfully and the beach is gradually being tidied by local businesses but still lots to be done on this area of beach to make it decent again. The sala does need to be demolished too in my opinion or at least repaired properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 58 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: That it's odd that the condo owners are complaining about the restaurants that were there a long time before them and they were well aware of their existence at the time the condos were built. If they were 100 years , illegally, before, they gotta go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk888 Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 13 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: That it's odd that the condo owners are complaining about the restaurants that were there a long time before them and they were well aware of their existence at the time the condos were built. can't recall any posts saying condo owners on that beachfront were complaining about the restaurants etc. Help please ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 13 hours ago, sandgroper2 said: If they were 100 years , illegally, before, they gotta go. Not necessarily. There's a legal principle of adverse possession whereby an occupier of land has right to LLegal title if they have enjoyed free, unencumbered possession for a certain number of years. Can't recall the exact details as it was covered in my law course in my first year at uni 40 years ago and I've never used it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, prk888 said: can't recall any posts saying condo owners on that beachfront were complaining about the restaurants etc. Help please ! The OP sure seemed very pleased that they were being demolished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1st year, 40 years ago, in which country. That takes the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, sandgroper2 said: 1st year, 40 years ago, in which country. That takes the cake. Well I specialised in other areas of law, and I'd bet it hasn't changed in the last 40 years. But there's a similar statute under Thai law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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