rooster59 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Body in freezer latest: Dead man not CEO of LA company at all Image: Daily News BANGKOK:-- Police in the body in the freezer case have said that the victim was not a CEO of a Los Angeles construction and train track laying company. Bangkok cops now believe he is a small time printer. The man was names as Charles Edward Ditlefsen earlier this week but this is also being verified with US authorities. Commissioner Sanit Mahathavorn said that the toxicology test carried out at Chula Hospital indicate a chemical in the body but he gave no further details saying that reporters would have to wait for the full report. At least ten other points in the case are being checked. Sanit gave a one to two week time frame before most of the matters would be resolved. He said that reports of the victim's job in the press were false and that he was involved in printing in some minor capacity. Three men are in custody after police raided a business premises in Sukhumvit Soi 56 two weeks ago looking for a passport forgery gang. The cut up remains of a man believed to be a US citizen of Hungarian descent were found in six pieces in a large freezer on the property. A tourist policeman was shot and injured during the raid. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-10-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) Looks like another cold case. Very chilling. Edited October 9, 2016 by dbrenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimo Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 It was also announced that when the cops shouted "freeze", the guy shot one of them. They also found some ice there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 are we talking poison or medication? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mountain Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Later on we will be told he's not dead at all ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster59 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 ‘Truth serum’ found on corpse ANGSUMA SRIDOKKHAM THE SUNDAY NATION BANGKOK:-- AN initial test found traces of a substance on the corpse of an American man whose dismembered body was found in a freezer during a police raid at a building in Bangkok’s Sukhumvit Soi 56 last month, said city police chief Lt-General Sanit Mahathaworn yesterday. Sanit said unofficial test results showed chemicals had been used on the body but police were waiting for detailed test results from Chulalongkorn University's Forensic Science Department. A source reported that the test found sodium thiopental, which is colloquially known as "truth serum", in the man’s liver at a ratio of 354.84 nanograms per one gram of tissue. The chemical is used at hospitals as anaesthesia to induce sleep. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Truth-serum-found-on-corpse-30297223.html -- © Copyright The Nation 2016-10-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 could that dose kill? dead men tell no lies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 They don't have a clue who he is but he's Hungarian descent and might have been in the publishing or printing business. Odd way of piecing clues together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lammbock Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Somchai can't count to 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 This deceased person has had so many identities all ready,first the police said it was a young man,then a blonde woman, then an old geezer,who was a CEO of a big company,but no,now he was a small printer, which makes the most sense if they were forging passports,but no mention of printing presses, Just hope the police dont mess up the investigation, in this case, justice needs to be served. These must be some of the "Good guys in Bad Guys out" bad guys,that are inconveniencing us good guys,through increased Government policies. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Printing business.... passport forgery gang.... dead; ... knew too much? But I still don't understand why they kept the body for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 He used to be a CEO, but after he lost his position, he went to pieces ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, AGareth2 said: are we talking poison or medication? I dont think the victims too bothered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The mystery continues:-https://www.google.com/amp/news.nationalpost.com/news/world/mystery-man-in-bangkok-freezer-identified-as-u-s-railway-executive-but-death-still-shrouded-in-mystery/ampAnother photo of Charles Edward Ditlefsen from the nation:-http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/American-forgery-ring-suspects-interrogated-in-jai-30296796.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 23 minutes ago, worgeordie said: This deceased person has had so many identities all ready,first the police said it was a young man,then a blonde woman, then an old geezer,who was a CEO of a big company,but no,now he was a small printer, which makes the most sense if they were forging passports,but no mention of printing presses, Just hope the police dont mess up the investigation, in this case, justice needs to be served. These must be some of the "Good guys in Bad Guys out" bad guys,that are inconveniencing us good guys,through increased Government policies. regards worgeordie Its like "pin the tail on the donkey", maybe they just throw a dart at the wall everyday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: A source reported that the test found sodium thiopental, which is colloquially known as "truth serum", in the man’s liver at a ratio of 354.84 nanograms per one gram of tissue. The chemical is used at hospitals as anaesthesia to induce sleep. It's possible he's just asleep, and he might wake up soon to resume his small-time printing activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 40 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said: The mystery continues:-https://www.google.com/amp/news.nationalpost.com/news/world/mystery-man-in-bangkok-freezer-identified-as-u-s-railway-executive-but-death-still-shrouded-in-mystery/amp Another photo of Charles Edward Ditlefsen from the nation:-http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/American-forgery-ring-suspects-interrogated-in-jai-30296796.html He has an icy gaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabula Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The stories and facts get more interesting. Probably a case of arguing, anger, greed and death. Hopefully, they will get to the bottom of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4637435435 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, lemonjelly said: Printing business.... passport forgery gang.... dead; ... knew too much? But I still don't understand why they kept the body for so long. Perhaps it could be best to hide the body and let time pass before getting rid of the evidence perhaps. Maybe it wasnt so easy to do so. Let the heat wear off im thinking. Harder to peice together what happened id bet. Could be simple extortion even but that would mean theres more to the story. Far stretch but who knows. Interesting none the less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Sphere said: It's possible he's just asleep, and he might wake up soon to resume his small-time printing activities. its only a scratch....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 59 minutes ago, bsdthai said: Perhaps it could be best to hide the body and let time pass before getting rid of the evidence perhaps. Maybe it wasnt so easy to do so. Let the heat wear off im thinking. Harder to peice together what happened id bet. Could be simple extortion even but that would mean theres more to the story. Far stretch but who knows. Interesting none the less <<"Letting the heat wear off; harder to piece together" >> was that intentionally written? Lol, anyway, keeping a frozen body in the lair is just asking for trouble, wonder if it was ever used as a threat against people , brought out on special occasions to show what would happen if one didn't play by their rules. Stinks of people smuggling and recruiting drug mules for the Pakistani gang to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Jack Mountain said: Later on we will be told he's not dead at all ... Truth drug? in his body, getting more bizarre by the day, I think as time goes by this story will die a natural death by boredom. I think it is highly provable that Thai personal are involved in which case the story is certain to die. The only part of the story that I would really like to know is why he or they held on to the body?????????????????? Maybe it was insurance against Thai personal, maybe this bust was accidental. More theories please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
licka Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 5 hours ago, Rob13 said: They don't have a clue who he is but he's Hungarian descent and might have been in the publishing or printing business. Odd way of piecing clues together. May also be from Mars Who knows The cops dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The dead men's case was a cold case from the beginning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Apart from making themselves look stupid with all the volte-faces, I can't see one good reason for the BiB to make any press statements at all until his ID and cause of death is finally established. Police and news media have always had an uncomfortable relationship but it can be mutually beneficial if handled correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Maybe they were working on an Adam Adamant sequel that went horribly wrong when someone cut up the body....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Now wait a minute, the original story about this said that a suspicious neighbor called the police about the freezer that she had noticed was heavy when they moved it in, but the guys never seemed to use it. Now they are saying they found the body during a raid looking for a passport forgery gang. Police never had a clue of any of it till she called and then it all fell in their laps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 ...sounds like back peddling.... ..implying a coverup..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 10 hours ago, lemonjelly said: Printing business.... passport forgery gang.... dead; ... knew too much? But I still don't understand why they kept the body for so long. Maybe they grew fond of it. There was a famous case in the UK. Dennis Nilsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I think we all know where this story is going, I suspect the police know everything, as does the American embassy. A suicide would be appropriate at this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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