Grouse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, Khun Han said: Wow! We've found someone (a scientist, no less) who's never heard of HIV or HCV!!! Brexit is, in large part, a retreat from the unaccepteable face of globalism. The stuff about big pharma and pandemics (as touched upon by Mark Zuckerberg in the linked article) is a good example of the very unaccepteable face of globalism. I do not know what HCV is; should I? Is it a compound of hydrogen, Carbon and Vanadium? Do enlighten me... Now I understand your point. You feel Brexit was a retreat against globalisation. Yes, I can see that. Of course the bizarre thing is that the Brexiteers are blowing the trumpet for increased globalisation? No? Personally, I don't think it is possible to put the cork back in the globalisation bottle. Zuckerberg is part of that! You may be able to control global trade but what about IPR (if you'll excuse the TLA!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Khun Han said: The made-up 'weapons of mass destruction' report presented to the Lower House might be a bit of a start . So Tony Blair "made it up"? Are you sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, Grouse said: I do not know what HCV is; should I? Is it a compound of hydrogen, Carbon and Vanadium? Do enlighten me... Now I understand your point. You feel Brexit was a retreat against globalisation. Yes, I can see that. Of course the bizarre thing is that the Brexiteers are blowing the trumpet for increased globalisation? No? Personally, I don't think it is possible to put the cork back in the globalisation bottle. Zuckerberg is part of that! You may be able to control global trade but what about IPR (if you'll excuse the TLA!) I now see that you are probably referring to hepatitis C virus? I am not a physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Grouse said: So Tony Blair "made it up"? Are you sure about that? Oh dear. Lets blame the flunkys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grouse said: I now see that you are probably referring to hepatitis C virus? I am not a physician. And the light was switched on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, Grouse said: I do not know what HCV is; should I? Is it a compound of hydrogen, Carbon and Vanadium? Do enlighten me... Now I understand your point. You feel Brexit was a retreat against globalisation. Yes, I can see that. Of course the bizarre thing is that the Brexiteers are blowing the trumpet for increased globalisation? No? Personally, I don't think it is possible to put the cork back in the globalisation bottle. Zuckerberg is part of that! You may be able to control global trade but what about IPR (if you'll excuse the TLA!) Did you bother to read the linked article? Zuckerberg was making the case that globalisation will help cure pandemics. I pointed out that it's actually hindering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jpinx Posted February 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Khun Han said: The made-up 'weapons of mass destruction' report presented to the Lower House might be a bit of a start . Some people call "fake" about the landings on the moon too. Only a complete imbecile missed the follow-up on iraq when USA admitted that they actually did not have evidnece but made some stuff up, persuaded EU and Uk to join in, and then launched a global war. To describe it as anything less than criminal is to fly in the face of facts which were well published a long time ago. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/spy-agencies-flawed-information-saddam-wmds-iraq-chilcot Get back on topic, ignore that heathland bird for the idiot it is and focus on how we're going to get these negotiations back on track and avoid the attempts to de-rail Brext at every twist and turn. I talk to people all over europe and the general educated opinion is that it's only a question of time before Brexit, and they all, to a man, agree that EU will need a massive overhaul, but they just can't get off mama's teat. Edited February 17, 2017 by jpinx 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, jpinx said: Some people call "fake" about the landings on the moon too. Only a complete imbecile missed the follow-up on iraq when USA admitted that they actually did not have evidnece but made some stuff up, persuaded EU and Uk to join in, and then launched a global war. To describe it as anything less than criminal is to fly in the face of facts which were well published a long time ago. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/spy-agencies-flawed-information-saddam-wmds-iraq-chilcot Get back on topic, ignore that heathland bird for the idiot it is and focus on how we're going to get these negotiations back on track and avoid the attempts to de-rail Brext at every twist and turn. I talk to people all over europe and the general educated opinion is that it's only a question of time before Brexit, and they all, to a man, agree that EU will need a massive overhaul, but they just can't get off mama's teat. "USA admitted that they actually did not have evidnece but made some stuff up, persuaded EU and Uk to join in, and then launched a global war" So who made what up? Clearly Iraq was the wrong decision Sorry, am I still a leftie? I lose track ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Khun Han said: And the light was switched on. HUMAN immunodeficiency virus - HIV HUMAN papilloma virus - HPV hepatitis C virus I cannot be expected keep up with all TLAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 9 hours ago, nontabury said: You mean to the Antonine Wall. If so would that mean returning Edinburgh to the Kingdom of Northumbria? Leaving where as the capital of Scotland. Invercockieleekie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, billd766 said: Invercockieleekie That's what most people speak outside the M25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I, Daniel Blake Watch this! Yes, even the synaptically challenged who ignore me. Tell me how leaving the EU will fix this.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 2/17/2017 at 1:41 PM, Khun Han said: That scumbag should be in Europe alright: being tried for war crimes in The Hague. You would have thought the deal for letting him get away with mass murder would involve him keeping a low profile and his mouth shut. Shows how desperate his globalist friends are becoming, that he's being allowed to pipe up. I'm pretty sure that Blair's 'friends' realise that he's extremely unpopular, and would far prefer he kept quiet.... Blair seems to think he's loved by Brits, and that they are ready to act on his 'pearls of wisdom' . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 21 hours ago, Grouse said: Aren't you being slightly over the top? A little moderation would be civilised don't you think? With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, Iraq was a disaster. Didn't seem quite so obvious at the time I suspect.... It was v obvious at the time - although I agree that most couldn't see the ridiculousness of his 'argument' about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction that threatened Britain . Proud to say that I've never said "told you so" to those who argued against me on this . It wasn't the first time Britain was called the US's lap dog - but it was the most obvious IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 19 hours ago, Khun Han said: Brexit is, in large part, a retreat from the unaccepteable face of globalism. I apologise for deleting so much of your post - but agree with this entirely - and its a facet that's been overlooked on these threads. The poor and under-privileged realised a while ago that globalism is not in their interest - and those on average salaries are beginning to recognise that its not in their interest either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitrevie Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: I apologise for deleting so much of your post - but agree with this entirely - and its a facet that's been overlooked on these threads. The poor and under-privileged realised a while ago that globalism is not in their interest - and those on average salaries are beginning to recognise that its not in their interest either. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that was the whole point of Brexit for Britain to be a globalist player. Boris Johnson: "Britain needs to be reshaped into a great global player" Brexit will make UK more globalist, Theresa May says or are some globalists different to other globalists? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, pitrevie said: Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that was the whole point of Brexit for Britain to be a globalist player. Boris Johnson: "Britain needs to be reshaped into a great global player" Brexit will make UK more globalist, Theresa May says or are some globalists different to other globalists? You misunderstand Andrew. Or maybe you're playing your debating games as usual? Brexit is about taking back control from foreign globalists. It's certainly not about isolationism. By the way, why did you block me from your twitter? That's a bit cowardly, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitrevie Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just now, Khun Han said: You misunderstand Andrew. Or maybe you're playing your debating games as usual? Brexit is about taking back control from foreign globalists. It's certainly not about isolationism. By the way, why did you block me from your twitter? That's a bit cowardly, isn't it? What globalists are you talking about that have this control? So now we are going to become globalists but not being controlled by your imaginary globalists. I guess all those financiers, bankers the gnomes of Zurich will all just go away as soon as we exit the EU. I don't know what this thing is that you have about twitter I have asked you several times in the past to explain what on earth you are talking about. Let me explain it to you in simple terms as you refuse to elucidate. I do not have a twitter account, I have never had a twitter account, I have no intention of having a twitter account so how the hell can I block you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I, Daniel Blake Watch this! Yes, even the synaptically challenged who ignore me. Tell me how leaving the EU will fix this.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I have no doubt that the Brexiteers wanted change. That's what they will get. Is it the change they want? I doubt it. How do you put the cork back in it he globalisation bottle? You think you can trap IPR behind frontiers? Nonsense. Protectionism does not work. If you want a job, get a skill or knowledge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 42 minutes ago, pitrevie said: Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that was the whole point of Brexit for Britain to be a globalist player. Boris Johnson: "Britain needs to be reshaped into a great global player" Brexit will make UK more globalist, Theresa May says or are some globalists different to other globalists? You really can't see the difference between 'global player' and the general definition of globalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: You really can't see the difference between 'global player' and the general definition of globalism? He just likes to play debating games. Edited February 18, 2017 by Khun Han Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitrevie Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Khun Han said: He just likes to play debating games. You might not have noticed but this is a forum where we debate things. What would be a novelty is for you to produce some evidence for some of the more ridiculous statements you make. Then when asked to do so you accuse people of playing debating games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitrevie Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: You really can't see the difference between 'global player' and the general definition of globalism? No please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 29 minutes ago, pitrevie said: No please explain. If you don't know, then probably a good time to work it out. Not that it matters as Grouse has reported a post and thereby attracted the attention of the mods - so all these posts are likely to be deleted as they are off-topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Peugeot offered Nissan-style Brexit promises to save Vauxhall, reports the FT in Breaking News. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitrevie Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: If you don't know, then probably a good time to work it out. Not that it matters as Grouse has reported a post and thereby attracted the attention of the mods - so all these posts are likely to be deleted as they are off-topic. Yep I was expecting that response just like Khun Han you make these ridiculous statements and then cannot explain what is meant by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, SheungWan said: Peugeot offered Nissan-style Brexit promises to save Vauxhall, reports the FT in Breaking News. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, jpinx said: Link? You have to be on FT Sub Breaking News or maybe Twitter feed to pick this up as only released in last few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jpinx Posted February 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, pitrevie said: Yep I was expecting that response just like Khun Han you make these ridiculous statements and then cannot explain what is meant by them. lighten up you guys -- this is a forum and a few verbal brickbats do no harm. Attracting the mods attention will cause unwanted interruption to the natural flow. We all know each other by now - there's only about 30 regular contributors and it's a nice argumentative club -- no referees needed. I hope that grumpy feathered old boy will stop trying to affect the natural pecking order. Meantime, there's little to report - which is probably why people are getting cantankorus - but it's interesting thet a lot of other events are impinging on the progress of Brexit. DT's attitude to NATO has really highlighted Germany's lack of commitment, but at the same time the Germans are saying that nobody's going to tell them what to do. What does that indicate? The German finance minister mouthing off about EU taking a more central role -- meaning what? Are we going to see a EU army and navy? That's one way for Germany to continue to not pay their share...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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