tomacht8 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, sandyf said: Exactly, regulatory equivalence is something that has yet to raise its head in the brexit debate. Many of the large pharmaceuticals are located in the UK because of the EMA, they may well be looking to Amsterdam now its been decided. That scares me more. How quickly the EU has given up the UK. 1 year and 4 months before it is decided that the two EU institutions move without reserve. As an European, i does not understand, that the idea of an united Europe (include the UK and with all other 27 member states) is given up so quickly.Brexit so fast?Why?It simply lacks the time for necessary talks. Edited November 21, 2017 by tomacht8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Grouse said: I'll bet they remember more history than you do! Beyond the pale? No doubt true for old buggers like you but not for the newer generations. Do you still hate the Germans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 hours ago, billd766 said: I am not sure if this is the right thread to post this in but I read this on the BBC News website this morning. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42057108 Perhaps Germany and the EU will have a bigger problem than Brexit to worry about soon. As good a thread as any Bill. This is the kind of important news that remainers like to ignore completely. I tried already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, nauseus said: As good a thread as any Bill. This is the kind of important news that remainers like to ignore completely. I tried already. This is funny. In Germany they are prepared to vote again, if no agreement can be reached. A concept that is not so common in the UK, I guess. Edited November 21, 2017 by tomacht8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsupdoc Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, nauseus said: As good a thread as any Bill. This is the kind of important news that remainers like to ignore completely. I tried already. What's the problem? It will be either Merkel's party or the socialists who will head a new government. Both are very pro-EU, so I guess it wouldn't make much difference with regard to Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, tomacht8 said: Oh dear, you have no glue about theoretical, macroeconomic models. You just do not know what a premise in an economic model is.No problems with space and distance bridging is one from five premises. And without realizing it, you certify the model from Minford, thus a rejection. Because exactly this example with Spain shows that his model is just a theoretical one. Are you going to stick to that premise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, sandyf said: Estimate on the EMA relocation is likely to cost the UK 580 million Euros, but DD said it wouldn't happen. It is not just the loss of the agencies, the EMA is estimated at having over 35,000 visitors a year, all requiring food and accommodation. The agencies’ previous location in the UK recognised Britain’s role as a financial and pharmaceutical industry superpower within the EU. In April, Brexit Secretary David Davis wrongly said the agencies would be able to stay in Britain after Brexit. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-netherlands-amsterdam-ema-benefit-eu-agencies-relocate-from-uk-london-european-council-a8066191.html The bill Britain must pay for moving the European Medicines Agency (EMA) from London after Brexit has soared to a staggering £520m, it has emerged. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-european-medicines-agency-move-london-eu-cost-bill-520-million-nhs-europe-a7873226.html I'm sure the UK would let them stay. It's the EU that says they can't so they should pay. Contract to 2039 - who signed that?? . What a bunch of loonies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, nauseus said: Are you going to stick to that premise? Absolute not. Real trade has many more facets. Logistics costs are big items for every company in reality economics. Same as import quotas, tariffs and import VAT. Recent macroeconomic research is currently more inclined to explain and calculate mathematical environmental influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: This is funny. In Germany they are prepared to vote again, if no agreement can be reached. A concept that is not so common in the UK, I guess. Its simple they cannot reach an agreement therefore they have to vote again. Otherwise no governing body. What should they do. Draw lots or have a football shoot out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Basil B said: So how many tons of jet fuel does take to fly a ton of strawberries from California or a ton of lamb from New Zealand??? I do not know but I am no fool and know it is a lot more the from our neighbours in the EU. You sir are living in the 20th century when we did not care about pouting the earth, well we are now in the 21st century. Pigs could fly direct from Thailand under their own steam. Oink ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, aright said: Its simple they cannot reach an agreement therefore they have to vote again. Otherwise no governing body. What should they do. Draw lots or have a football shoot out? I think it's good to let people vote again after four weeks, until all the arguments are known and are pronounced . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: This is funny. In Germany they are prepared to vote again, if no agreement can be reached. A concept that is not so common in the UK, I guess. That's because in Germany there was no outright winner. Funny now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: Absolute not. Real trade has many more facets. Logistics costs are big items for every company in reality economics. Same as import quotas, tariffs and import VAT. Recent macroeconomic research is currently more inclined to explain and calculate mathematical environmental influences. I was just avin a larf! (you have no glue) Edited November 21, 2017 by nauseus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, nauseus said: I was just avin a larf! So why? Can you explain that please a bit more clearly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, whatsupdoc said: What's the problem? It will be either Merkel's party or the socialists who will head a new government. Both are very pro-EU, so I guess it wouldn't make much difference with regard to Brexit. We'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: So why? Can you explain that please a bit more clearly? I was joking T you said 'glue' and I said 'stick'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, nauseus said: I'm sure the UK would let them stay. It's the EU that says they can't so they should pay. Contract to 2039 - who signed that?? . What a bunch of loonies! The UK authorized have signed this too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: I think it's good to let people vote again after four weeks, until all the arguments are known and are pronounced . I don't think mutti thinks it's such a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, nauseus said: I don't think mutti thinks it's such a great idea. Mutti is not stupid. For decades in the political business. I'm glad that the whole thing has burst first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, tomacht8 said: Well, I'm clapping my hands for joy. Why do not you explain that to the UK farmers?Why do not you explain that to the UK industry and everyone who works there and earns their living? A study of economics would refer you to the law of comparative advantage unless you wish to proceed down the road of protectionism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, SheungWan said: A study of economics would refer you to the law of comparative advantage unless you wish to proceed down the road of protectionism. 6 minutes ago, SheungWan said: A study of economics would refer you to the law of comparative advantage unless you wish to proceed down the road of protectionism. if you want to position me in economic policy, then in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, aright said: No doubt true for old buggers like you but not for the newer generations. Do you still hate the Germans? You do know what "beyond the pale" means I assume I am pro German and certainly favour Northern European social democracy over our increasingly American uncivilised ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, nauseus said: As good a thread as any Bill. This is the kind of important news that remainers like to ignore completely. I tried already. Not at all. I much prefer PR and the coalition governments it produces because it forces cooperation and compromise between opposing views. Much better than FPTP in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grouse said: Not at all. I much prefer PR and the coalition governments it produces because it forces cooperation and compromise between opposing views. Much better than FPTP in my opinion. Just a shame nobody wants to co-lit with mutti. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42063664 Another kick in the teeth! The UK is going downhill EXPONENTIALLY Wouldn't want to upset the Indians now would we. Holy cow, there might be a trade deal in the offing! We don't care about our place in the world as long as we have trade! If I were a rich man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, vogie said: Just a shame nobody wants to co-lit with mutti. The Christian Democrats Maybe you would prefer AfD? No, wise move. The results will now be very interesting, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grouse said: The Christian Democrats Maybe you would prefer AfD? No, wise move. The results will now be very interesting, no? The general concensus on the news today is that if mutti went for another election, she would likely do even worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, Grouse said: Not at all. I much prefer PR and the coalition governments it produces because it forces cooperation and compromise between opposing views. Much better than FPTP in my opinion. I know you do, but there is no gov at all this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, vogie said: The general concensus on the news today is that if mutti went for another election, she would likely do even worse. Not according to SDZ or FAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Grouse said: The Christian Democrats Maybe you would prefer AfD? No, wise move. The results will now be very interesting, no? Looks like a lot of Germans already prefer the AfD. Well done mutti! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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