aright Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, simoh1490 said: Merry Xmas Grouse! Perhaps we can persuade the Brexiteer mob to put down their keyboards and come join us for a game of footle in no man's land. As long as we don't have to use your ball. We know what you do with it when you don't like the referee's decision 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, aright said: As long as we don't have to use your ball. We know what you do with it when you don't like the referee's decision The referee for the game playing now is Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talahtnut Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 15 hours ago, aright said: As long as we don't have to use your ball. We know what you do with it when you don't like the referee's decision One side playing by Association Football UK rules, the other side playing by EU regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, SheungWan said: The referee for the game playing now is Parliament. True, and as I recall it voted by a majority of 380 to trigger Article 50. I don't rate your chances of overturning that by appealing to the video referee do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Grouse said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule Some seasonal cheer! God Jul! And thanks to the Germans for introducing the Christmas tree and Christmas cards to us! Are you not speaking Swedish there? Hyvää joulua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted December 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, sandyf said: EU commissioners are nominated by the EU council, heads of state and for the UK that is the Prime Minister, nominations must then be approved by the EU parliament, elected by the general public of the member states. It is no wonder the country is in such a mess when brexiteers have so little basic understanding of the EU. If you wish to know the political leanings of the UK EU commissioner, ask David Cameron, he chose him. How many of the UK electorate actually voted for TM to be Prime Minister and how many of the UK cabinet appointments were approved by the UK parliament. The UK government, as opposed to parliament, is effectively an autocracy as a prime ministerial regime, but of course that is perceived by some as more democratic than the parliamentary approval method in the EU. The UK system is more democratic although it obviously could be improved. At least each individual minister has to first qualify as an MP via election by a constituency. This "nominating", "choosing" and "approving" of low-level candidates for high-level (power) commission positions is the main problem with this so-called democratic EU system. When has the EU parliament ever rejected a nominee? What happened when Cameron tried to reject Juncker for commission president? A quick look at the commissioners past and present shows what a joke this EU system is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, oilinki said: Are you not speaking Swedish there? Hyvää joulua. Nej, Dansk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 50 minutes ago, aright said: True, and as I recall it voted by a majority of 380 to trigger Article 50. I don't rate your chances of overturning that by appealing to the video referee do you? That is not the game. The game on the pitch is the form which Brexit will take. The uber Hard Brexiteers refuse to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, simoh1490 said: Merry Xmas Grouse! Perhaps we can persuade the Brexiteer mob to put down their keyboards and come join us for a game of footle in no man's land. Yes, good idea. The brexiteer 'mob' versus the remainer 'lickspittles'. I might even take Grouse off ignore until his next personal insult (which should take him all of about ten minutes ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Khun Han said: Yes, good idea. The brexiteer 'mob' versus the remainer 'lickspittles'. I might even take Grouse off ignore until his next personal insult (which should take him all of about ten minutes ). And a very Merry Xmas to you too Han! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted December 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2017 And in the meantime, Merry Christmas to all! 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, sandyf said: EU commissioners are nominated by the EU council, heads of state and for the UK that is the Prime Minister, nominations must then be approved by the EU parliament, elected by the general public of the member states. It is no wonder the country is in such a mess when brexiteers have so little basic understanding of the EU. If you wish to know the political leanings of the UK EU commissioner, ask David Cameron, he chose him. How many of the UK electorate actually voted for TM to be Prime Minister and how many of the UK cabinet appointments were approved by the UK parliament. The UK government, as opposed to parliament, is effectively an autocracy as a prime ministerial regime, but of course that is perceived by some as more democratic than the parliamentary approval method in the EU. This argument is fatuous. The UK has had a Bicameral Parliamentary System since 1707 whose process has served us well........we do not have widespread complaints of process or value. The EU has been in existence for 40 years and since 1992 when the Danes voted against the Maastricht Treaty there has been nothing but complaints about it's process and value . You only have to look at election results (Denmark, UK, Catalonia and Corsica) to see the evidence and voting statistics (France, Germany, Austria , Poland, Netherlands) to see this is the Union which is in a mess 50% of people in the EU disagree that their voice counts.......6% above those that did. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/896303/eu-poll-immigration-positive-image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post talahtnut Posted December 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2017 Merry Xmas all, and thanks for the entertainment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 A very Merry Christmas to everyone and a Happy and Prosperous New Year. I am off to the sun. I will be looking in regularly to make sure you don't make a dogs Brexit of 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, SheungWan said: That is not the game. The game on the pitch is the form which Brexit will take. The uber Hard Brexiteers refuse to play. Typical Remainer you want to replay the game. The lastgame was won 461 to 89 in December. We are leaving the EU and starting the next game and who knows what the final result will be in 2 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 44 minutes ago, talahtnut said: Merry Xmas all, and thanks for the entertainment. Who ate half the pie? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 The UK system is more democratic although it obviously could be improved. At least each individual minister has to first qualify as an MP via election by a constituency. This "nominating", "choosing" and "approving" of low-level candidates for high-level (power) commission positions is the main problem with this so-called democratic EU system. When has the EU parliament ever rejected a nominee? What happened when Cameron tried to reject Juncker for commission president? A quick look at the commissioners past and present shows what a joke this EU system is. There is no requirement for a Minister of State to be an elected MP as the post can also be held by members of the House of Lords. Obvious ones that spring to mind are Charlie Falconer, Tony Blair’s former flatmate who was made a life peer and also Peter Mandelson who was appointed Business Secretary by Gordon Brown a couple of weeks before becoming a Baron. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 hours ago, aright said: Typical Remainer you want to replay the game. The lastgame was won 461 to 89 in December. We are leaving the EU and starting the next game and who knows what the final result will be in 2 years time. Only a year out. That would be 2016. Maybe some Brexiteers have been asleep the last 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, SheungWan said: Only a year out. That would be 2016. Maybe some Brexiteers have been asleep the last 12 months. Especially for you this xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 European ETFs: http://etfgi.com/news/detail/newsid/2211 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Orac said: There is no requirement for a Minister of State to be an elected MP as the post can also be held by members of the House of Lords. Obvious ones that spring to mind are Charlie Falconer, Tony Blair’s former flatmate who was made a life peer and also Peter Mandelson who was appointed Business Secretary by Gordon Brown a couple of weeks before becoming a Baron. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Yes, two fine examples there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 47 minutes ago, SheungWan said: European ETFs: http://etfgi.com/news/detail/newsid/2211 It's called a melt up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, SheungWan said: Only a year out. That would be 2016. Maybe some Brexiteers have been asleep the last 12 months. Really clutching at straws now, eh Meg? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, nauseus said: Really clutching at straws now, eh Meg? That's what straw men do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 19 hours ago, SheungWan said: Has proved to be very useful cover in particular for extremists who do not/cannot/will not read very much at all other than loopy websites. Just as you and your friends all believe what the loopy Guardian and their ilk spout 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: Just as you and your friends all believe what the loopy Guardian and their ilk spout ...much more so than The Sun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 43 minutes ago, simoh1490 said: ...much more so than The Sun! God ,sorry ,even i gave up reading the sun years ago , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: God ,sorry ,even i gave up reading the sun years ago , You're a good lad, are you weened off The Express and The Mirror also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, simoh1490 said: You're a good lad, are you weened off The Express and The Mirror also? never read them either ,its the Daily Wail for me . merry xmas , sad arnt we on here on xmas day , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: never read them either ,its the Daily Wail for me . merry xmas , sad arnt we on here on xmas day , And a very merry Xmas to you too bert! Actually not sad at all, I use forums like Thaivisa as a break from all the other stuff that I'm doing, today it's repairing a bridge in the garden to I've got to wait until a decent hour before cutting steel. And the Mrs/ has gone to work, it's just another day in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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