little mary sunshine Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Amazing Thailand....This Piece Of Sh** will be back attacking others so soon!!! "Thai No Justice". again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Mr Apai then found Ms Gavios as she lay helpless. He then proceeded to sexually assault her, before praying next to her only to then finally go and get help. My late lunch just fell out of my stomach after reading this,......holy shit. If that would have been my sister, I'd have a chat with the guy. I hope she'll have a speedy and full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, yellowboat said: He looks as though he will be right at home in prison. Its always sad when people are judged by their appearance . In this case, the man has admitted to the attack that left a woman in a terrible state (and clearly has mental issues that mean he shouldn't be allowed out for decades) - but that's no excuse for basing someones' character on their appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Fixit Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Pib said: Pretty much standard legal practice in Thailand for most crimes....admit guilt and the sentence is reduced by half. It happens in the UK too. Plead guilty, show (fake) remorse and get a much lighter sentence. It's SOP to keep the courts and prisons emptier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Pib said: Pretty much standard legal practice in Thailand for most crimes....admit guilt and the sentence is reduced by half. You've got to admit it's a good way to get confessions and cut down on court time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amykat Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Anthony5 said: Misinterpretation of the writing in the OP on my part, or wrong formulation on the part of the journalist, who will say. The man, Apai Ruangwong, 28, was sentenced to 10 years in prison for the attack on Hannah Gavios in September. Wait, this is a good catch. I always thought that if you had a case going forward, if you plead guilty you would get half of the potential sentence. What is the point exactly of pleading guilty AFTER you have been found guilty for a reduction of sentence (for the state)? It does say this: Originally sentenced to 10 years in prison, Mr Apai’s sentence was reduced to a maximum of 5 years after he pleaded guilty to obscene behaviour and carrying out the attack on Ms Gavios. Then it explains that both sides have 30 days to appeal this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, edwinchester said: Appallingly lenient sentence and hate to think of what effect the annual amnesties have on the length of time that will eventually be served. There is a recent event which may have some future bearing on that tradition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, jingjoke said: Disgusting beast and disgustingly lenient sentence. Fate was not kind to Ms Gavios to have encountered this depraved guide. Looks like he just dropped out of the trees - knuckles still dragging on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Welcome to Thailand little girl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Just now, Artisi said: Looks like he just dropped out of the trees - knuckles still dragging on the ground. His appearance is irrelevant and actually distasteful. If he was a handsome man would that have somehow made the crime less severe? Should an ugly man get a longer sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, tropo said: His appearance is irrelevant and actually distasteful. If he was a handsome man would that have somehow made the crime less severe? Should an ugly man get a longer sentence? Think you might have missed the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, tropo said: His appearance is irrelevant and actually distasteful. If he was a handsome man would that have somehow made the crime less severe? Should an ugly man get a longer sentence? Less attention in jail, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 13 minutes ago, tropo said: His appearance is irrelevant and actually distasteful. If he was a handsome man would that have somehow made the crime less severe? Should an ugly man get a longer sentence? Can't speak for the lady, but I bet it could be a factor in the nightmares she'll probably be having long after smiley gets released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, Artisi said: Think you might have missed the point. I didn't, hence my comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Yeah right. There is never going to be justice here until scum like this piece of crap are given sentenced that match the crime. Throw him over a cliff, eye for an eye and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, Artisi said: Think you might have missed the point. Perhaps you could explain the point that a couple of us have missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkok2013 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Disgusting ,brainless Animal ,worse than animals . This is common practice in Thailand .....So many women get the same treatment ,but never report out of shame , date rape is the most common here ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, tropo said: I didn't, hence my comment. The point had nothing to do with being handsome or ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Anthony5 said: But is it normal that this halving comes 2 months after the initial sentencing? Yes, if they change the plea. Otherwise she would have had to come back to give evidence at trial. This is also a standard practice in the west and his sentence would probably have been 3 years, out in half that on parole. 5 years is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennypowers Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 The US has so much influence over Thailand, so why doesn't someone like John Kerry drop the PM a call and say, "Hey, no way buster". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Allen Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Good guys in, bad guys out. Hell....it was only a damned old FOREIGNER.....they're not human....wot the hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, DM07 said: It may be according to the law- but what terrible law, is this? Section 78 of the Criminal Code. Quote Section 78 - Whenever it appears that there exists an extenuating circumstance, whether or not there be an increase or reduction of the punishment according to the provisions of this Code or the other law, the Court may, if it is suitable, reduce the punishment to be inflicted on the offender by not more than one-half. Extenuating circumstances may include lack of intelligence, serious distress, previous good conduct, the repentance and the efforts made by the offender to minimize the injurious consequence of the offence, voluntary surrender to an official, the information given or the Court for the benefit of the trial, or the other circumstance which the Court considers to be of similar nature. Just one of the many terrible laws in the land - Some of which are enshrined with the sole purpose of maintaining the socio-political status quo, some more recent ones appear to be simply made up on a whim, and some often wildly misinterpreted... Note how the Criminal Code, by saying "the Court may, if it is suitable, reduce the punishment to be inflicted on the offender by not more than one-half" is interpreted in a way that the sentence must, suitable or not, reduce the punishment by exactly half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyjuan Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Thai justice..bah. POS...He will have to say 100 umbah-bahs and pay a 1000 baht fine. God help him if this was my sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, Artisi said: The point had nothing to do with being handsome or ugly. So the new point is that you're not good at making points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, gandalf12 said: Throw him over a cliff, eye for an eye and all that. No, not my view at all. I do not believe in vengeance or vigilante "justice" but sentences should be appropriate to the seriousness of the offence. 5 years for a sexual assault on a victim who suffered horrific injuries that will take months, if not years, to recover from is ridiculous. The original sentence of 10 years was, for me anyway, still too lenient. Scum like this are a danger to all women and society needs protecting from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkok2013 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, jingjoke said: Disgusting beast and disgustingly lenient sentence. Fate was not kind to Ms Gavios to have encountered this depraved guide. What an ugly bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: No, not my view at all. I do not believe in vengeance or vigilante "justice" but sentences should be appropriate to the seriousness of the offence. 5 years for a sexual assault on a victim who suffered horrific injuries that will take months, if not years, to recover from is ridiculous. The original sentence of 10 years was, for me anyway, still too lenient. Scum like this are a danger to all women and society needs protecting from them. I can respect your point of view but no matter how long the sentence is, if he gets out chances are he will do it again. Why keep trash like this, they are a blight on society. Edited October 29, 2016 by gandalf12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 This is Thailand, the place where you get 10 years for murder, and 20-100+ years for what would be considered comparatively minor crimes elsewhere. Just look at the Dutch guy who got 103 years for 'annoying some Thai officials'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 This type of judicial system is what makes this country so backward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 50 minutes ago, Artisi said: Looks like he just dropped out of the trees - knuckles still dragging on the ground. Free beer and lifelong for all TVF members if this guy's IQ is over 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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