Do assaulted people always get compensation if there's undeniable proof?

[FarangFB]

I'm a very peaceful guy and avoid all kinds of conflict, simply because I don't think there is any advantage of getting into a fight. Win or lose, you always end up losing something.

 

When going out in Pattaya, sometimes I get offended by some farangs looking for a fight, and I am always polite and don't say anything that will trigger an attack. I am a small guy and many of the larger fat/tall guys are twice my weight, so it's a little bit of a survival thing.

 

However, yesterday I was with a friend in a bar (not a "barfine" bar), and was making a few videos with a small action camera. A (large) guy drinking in there told me I could not make videos there, but I know all the staff and the rules  of the bar, and it's totally fine to record in there, so I told him "Yes, I can, this is not a gogo or something". Then he clearly got upset and said in a more threatening way: "I'm telling you that you can't" - at that point I knew that if I confronted him again he would probably get physical, and he was as big as me and my drunken friend combined. So I said "no worries man, you were not in any recordings here" and left.

 

I get slightly upset from situations like this in the moment, but I forget easily, no problem. But here is the question: in the first paragraph of this thread I mention that I don't see an advantage in getting into fights, but what if there is money to be made? I wonder if there is CCTV footage from 2 different angles clearly showing that I did nothing and was assaulted, could I take the case to the police and demand a multi thousand baht compensation? I hear about it all the time when there are fights (like a guy broke a bottle in the head of a thai girl in soi6 and had to pay her 300k baht).

 

A place like yesterday would have been perfect with good quality CCTV cameras, I would probably just be punched a few times and the thai security guy would jump in.

 

 

[johng]

 

 

41 minutes ago, FarangFB said:

I would probably just be punched a few times and the thai security guy would jump in.

 

I wouldn't count on that .

 

I would also not try your rather bazaar money making scheme  what if you where seriously  permanently injured/disabled

or killed  it can be as simple as one punch.

[SidJames]

I have no idea for sure but I understand that the victim can negotiate their terms & there will often be 'police' costs involved.

300K for bottling a girl in a bar seems quite low.

I can't think of many places in the world where you can break a glass bottle on a girl in her place of work & just being fined.

Anyone who does that should not be allowed to pass Go. (that's the polite version)

 

[Guderian]

Are you really that desperate for a few thousand Baht that you'd risk life and limb deliberately getting assaulted by some of the psychos roaming around this town? Unless you've got experience at street fighting I'd advise you to stay well out of it, a single punch from some of these guys could kill you if you don't know how to roll with it. And as for getting glassed or bottled in the face, is it really worth a few thousand Baht to no longer be a "hansum man"? Your original strategy of conflict avoidance sounded fine to me, stick with it.

[lovelomsak]

Sounds like a form of entrapment to me. Premeditated violence for profit.

[NightRider70]

Your current tactic of avoiding violence is very good. If everyone did the same there would be no violence.

 

You vill probably not get any compensation beyond the first hospital bill. You are not Thai, your are a "farang" and thereby worthless in the eyes of the police.

[FarangFB]

1 hour ago, Guderian said:

Are you really that desperate for a few thousand Baht that you'd risk life and limb deliberately getting assaulted by some of the psychos roaming around this town? Unless you've got experience at street fighting I'd advise you to stay well out of it, a single punch from some of these guys could kill you if you don't know how to roll with it. And as for getting glassed or bottled in the face, is it really worth a few thousand Baht to no longer be a "hansum man"? Your original strategy of conflict avoidance sounded fine to me, stick with it.

 

Not desperate, but as I said, I wouldn't mind getting a 2-month pay for a couple punches. I have some self-defense notions and keep in mind I wouldn't be attacking, just blocking (and would be prepared to avoid being face punched, I can read aggressiveness in people's faces).  I would literally take a first blow while blocking and intentionally fall to make it more dramatic. Also, I would never do it in a place I wouldn't get immediate backup from male staff.

 

1 hour ago, lovelomsak said:

Sounds like a form of entrapment to me. Premeditated violence for profit.

 

So, according to your judgement, I am the one at fault, not the big bully who is trying to fight someone half his size. 

 

The main idea is not entrapment, I would never provoke anyone to be attacked. This is different, I want the guy to be punished for threatening me like that, and since I can't win physically, I'd be happy to hurt him in the wallet.

 

42 minutes ago, NightRider70 said:

Your current tactic of avoiding violence is very good. If everyone did the same there would be no violence.

 

You vill probably not get any compensation beyond the first hospital bill. You are not Thai, your are a "farang" and thereby worthless in the eyes of the police.

 

Well, you have a good point, I must look for foreigners who got assaulted to check if they got anything from it. 

[prk888]

i think you will find that common assault injuries are scaled and published by the Court.  A black eye is  e.g. B500; broken nose B1000; etc etc so it had better be good to get a few months salary (and dangerous too!)

[oxforddon]

What is likely to happen is that both parties would get a fine for affray and you might get any proven medical/hospital fees in compensation assuming the police would want to get involved in the first place. To sue for any more "damages" you would need a court case and a lawyer with a translator at your cost with no guarantee of getting those costs back.

[Rimmer]

It looks to me as though you are trying invite trouble by setting yourself up to be beaten in order make some money from it, that being the case I will close this topic.

 

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