The anti-Trump resistance takes shape: 'Government's supposed to fear us'

[ilostmypassword]

Just now, Ramen087 said:

Donald Trump has reportedly told the Prime Minister he will not come to the UK on a state visit if there are large-scale protests against him, according to reports. 

The American President is said to have told Theresa May he does not want to come if people do not welcome his visit. 

 

the above is an excerpt...

 

The trip is still on as scheduled... the post number 2522 is obviously lacking veracity

I suppose next you'll accuse the Telegraph of being a left wing rag.

[Ramen087]

6 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

I suppose next you'll accuse the Telegraph of being a left wing rag.

No.

[ilostmypassword]

Just now, Ramen087 said:

No.

Then why do you believe what they wrote is false? Because the White House said otherwise? Really?

[Ramen087]

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

Then why do you believe what they wrote is false? Because the White House said otherwise? Really?

It's a misleading and basically click bait only grabber... and the white house need not address an item so poorly reported, so they have not. Have a good day.

[Morch]

14 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

It's a misleading and basically click bait only grabber... and the white house need not address an item so poorly reported, so they have not. Have a good day.

 

Considering Trump's penchant for addressing minor issues and slights, that's a rather amusing response. Thanks.

[Ramen087]

Just now, Morch said:

Considering Trump's penchant for addressing minor issues and slights, that's a rather amusing response. Thanks.

 

I don't hang on his every word, but since you seem to do so, thanks for cluing me in.    Have a pleasant afternoon.

[Jingthing]

Or it's another version of "he better hope that there are no tapes".

Yeah of course its not the kinky sex per se as its well digested that trump has a history of being a man slut but the potential Kompromat of Putin having that on him.

[Morch]

Just now, Ramen087 said:

 

I don't hang on his every word, but since you seem to do so, thanks for cluing me in.    Have a pleasant afternoon.

 

Pretending not to be aware of Trump's habits? Very convincing.

 

 

[ilostmypassword]

1 minute ago, Ramen087 said:

 

I don't hang on his every word, but since you seem to do so, thanks for cluing me in.    Have a pleasant afternoon.

So you aren't aware that Trump denies saying things that he's been recorded saying on video?

[Ramen087]

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

Pretending not to be aware of Trump's habits? Very convincing.

I've never read a single tweet from any US President (or from pretty much anyone when you get down to it) . I don't delve into any story about them either, if that is what you're referring to.

I just follow news sources on politics from around the globe, and not every day either.  Policy and the decisions that arise from it concern me mostly.

Plus...There's more to life than politics, a lot more in my case. 

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

I've never read a single tweet from any US President (or from pretty much anyone when you get down to it) . I don't delve into any story about them either, if that is what you're referring to.

I just follow news sources on politics from around the globe, and not every day either.  Policy and the decisions that arise from it concern me mostly.

Plus...There's more to life than politics, a lot more in my case. 

Trump's tweets been covered on many news sources and forum topics. You've quoted the former and participated in the latter enough times to make your post ridiculous, at best.

[Ramen087]

6 minutes ago, Morch said:

Trump's tweets been covered on many news sources and forum topics. You've quoted the former and participated in the latter enough times to make your post ridiculous, at best.

I don't read tweets, and I have only seen them contained within news stories.  Are you daft?

If I commented on them, it was surely within the context of a news story.  

I have never read a tweet; I have never looked at twitter either.  

You're inferring too much; perhaps a cool glass of lemonade will help you calm down. 

 

No one on this board is important enough to lie to; and neither is any board in general. This forum could never bring me so low.  

Edited June 11, 2017 by Ramen087

[Jingthing]

Disingenuousness personified.

[Morch]

5 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

I don't read tweets, and I have only seen them contained within news stories.  Are you daft?

If I commented on them, it was surely within the context of a news story.  

I have never read a tweet; I have never looked at twitter either.  

You're inferring too much; perhaps a cool glass of lemonade will help you calm down. 

 

There is no difference between reading a tweet or seeing it contained within a news story. But do go on about "daft".

Edited June 11, 2017 by Morch

[Ramen087]

Just now, Morch said:

There is no difference between reading a tweet or seeing it contained within a news story. But do go on about "daft".

there is if you don't see it displayed specifically as a tweet, as opposed to a quote... 

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

there is if you don't see it displayed specifically as a tweet, as opposed to a quote... 

 

You were saying something about "daft"...?

[Ramen087]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

You were saying something about "daft"...?

Yes, I was.   If someone claims DT was quoted as saying, that isn't the same as tweeting...  I would always specify a tweet vs. a quote... I guess you feel those things are the same; I do not.  And for the last time, I don't do twitter... It isn't that hard to believe, is it?

[Morch]

1 minute ago, Ramen087 said:

Yes, I was.   If someone claims DT was quoted as saying, that isn't the same as tweeting...  I would always specify a tweet vs. a quote... I guess you feel those things are the same; I do not.  And for the last time, I don't do twitter... It isn't that hard to believe, is it?

 

Not sure if you are suggesting that Trump's tweets are not his own or that they differ greatly from quoting his public statements. Either comment is bizarre and off mark, but not out of line with your posting. Also, one doesn't have to "do tweeter" in order to read tweets. The same way one doesn't have to be a member of this forum in order to read posts.

[Jingthing]

Considering the dangers of the anti trump resistance getting sucked into conspiracy theories that have previously been the province of the right.

 

 

https://newrepublic.com/article/142977/new-paranoia-trump-election-turns-democrats-conspiracy-theorists

 

 

"As it turns out, though, the left wasn’t smarter than the right; it simply wasn’t terrified enough. Waking up to a country run by a man who openly boasts of sexual assault, who has systematically targeted immigrants and Muslims for deportation, whose every utterance seems to bespeak some form of mental instability, liberals suddenly find themselves adrift in a world they never imagined possible. In a landscape this dystopian, conspiracy offers a salve. It promises an order behind the madness, some sort of rational explanation for the seeming chaos. "

 

 

 

[nasanews]

If a jackass like Trump could be the president then you don't see the big picture.

[Jingthing]

Maher disses Kushner --

 

 

[Jingthing]

New Yorker cover depicting trump as a modern clown of his own making --

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2017/06/09/new-yorker-cover-renders-trump-as-a-modern-clown-of-his-own-making/

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“Both Chaplin and Trump are iconic clowns,” Blitt says. “In the classic ‘Modern Times,’ the iconic Little Trump character struggles to survive in a world fraught with calamities of his own making at every turn. Alas, his big red clown tie getting caught repeatedly in the works.”

 

Edited June 11, 2017 by Jingthing

[Ramen087]

10 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Not sure if you are suggesting that Trump's tweets are not his own or that they differ greatly from quoting his public statements. Either comment is bizarre and off mark, but not out of line with your posting. Also, one doesn't have to "do tweeter" in order to read tweets. The same way one doesn't have to be a member of this forum in order to read posts.

Well, I am just totally blindsided by the fact that anyone would judge and make thousands of posts in a matter of months on this forum using tweets as the source. I thought that when people stated DT said something it was from a press conference, or perhaps from the press secretary. Something not from a tweet from a guy who, when penning these small blurbs, is doing nothing that seems to affect policy, since the congress, senate, joint chiefs of staff & cabinet are all playing a major role in gov't policy and actions despite what anti-Trump people believe. The structure of gov't is still intact and rule of law prevails same as it did during Mr. Obama's tenure.

Tweets written during the course of a day carry no weight, except in the perception of those on the extreme ends of the spectrum looking to prop up, or knock down, the US Pres. regardless of what has been released via twitter. Tweets just aren't that important to the outcome and determination of policy.  If people here have been using tweets as a determining factor regarding their opinion of this administration or Pres. Trump, or even the previous administration based on tweets; good luck with that.  If it isn't worthy of being said in an official press release, or a daily briefing, why care except to reinforce a previously held belief?  I cannot believe anyone could make that kind of tracking of anyone a part of their life, but I just some do just that.

 

Now that I am aware how important tweets are to this thread...

[maewang99]

Resistance? wrong enemy. 
 

you don't have a chance at all.

Inside the Swamp means.... a mafia style 'Inside the Swamp'... to go along with a mafia casino economy.... in the Great America [outside of Silicon Valley, that is.... and Hawthorne Airport].  if you have nothing to contribute to the world then for you it's all just a Zero Sum Game where you need to get your fair and reasonable share.... by making threats.... involving lots of lawyers and cops especially... promises of goodies to your crews.... and use people to 'make examples' of might happen to you if you don't 'just get along' with them... 100%....

no exceptions. 

and endless dirty talk. that and having your private parts grabbed at any moment.



 

Edited June 12, 2017 by maewang99

[simple1]

12 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

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Tweets written during the course of a day carry no weight,

 

Obviously the US Courts making judgements on the legality or other wise on Trump's EO's disagree with you on the importance of Trump's tweets, as does Trump himself.

[Andaman Al]

18 minutes ago, maewang99 said:

Resistance? wrong enemy. 
 

you don't have a chance at all.

Inside the Swamp.... means morphing it into something 'new' where the motto is chaos and 'disruption'.... a mafia style 'Inside the Swamp'... to go along with a mafia casino economy.... in the Great America...... those parts outside of Silicon Valley.  if you have nothing to contribute to the world..... it's a Zero Sum Game where you need to get your 'cut' by.... making threats.... promising goodies.... using people to 'make examples' of what can go wrong if you don't tow the line... New York style.

forgetaboutit.

 

Good points, and it encourages one to think 'what exactly did Trump mean with - Make America Great Again'. He never really answered that. For the rich, America was great in the days of prohibition - they got richer, or was it in the 70's when the mafia made billions running casino's and taking money from those that could ill afford it? Maybe Trump thinks America was great during the days of slavery or does he see himself as a Thomas Durant building the Transcontinental Railway (I bet Trump watched Hell on Wheels!) At what point in time and for what reason is Trump actually pointing at when he says 'make America Great again'? One thing for sure, every thing he has done so far has made the USA a laughing stock.
  

Edited June 12, 2017 by Andaman Al

[rijb]

22 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Good points, and it encourages one to think 'what exactly did Trump mean with - Make America Great Again'. He never really answered that. For the rich, America was great in the days of prohibition - they got richer, or was it in the 70's when the mafia made billions running casino's and taking money from those that could ill afford it? Maybe Trump thinks America was great during the days of slavery or does he see himself as a Thomas Durant building the Transcontinental Railway (I bet Trump watched Hell on Wheels!) At what point in time and for what reason is Trump actually pointing at when he says 'make America Great again'? One thing for sure, every thing he has done so far has made the USA a laughing stock.
  

The people/nations, that matter, are not laughing about what Trump has/has not done.  It's not a laughing matter.  

 

[Andaman Al]

2 minutes ago, rijb said:

The people/nations, that matter, are not laughing about what Trump has/has not done.  It's not a laughing matter.  

 

Well I guess its laugh or cry, take your pick.

[Morch]

55 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Well, I am just totally blindsided by the fact that anyone would judge and make thousands of posts in a matter of months on this forum using tweets as the source. I thought that when people stated DT said something it was from a press conference, or perhaps from the press secretary. Something not from a tweet from a guy who, when penning these small blurbs, is doing nothing that seems to affect policy, since the congress, senate, joint chiefs of staff & cabinet are all playing a major role in gov't policy and actions despite what anti-Trump people believe. The structure of gov't is still intact and rule of law prevails same as it did during Mr. Obama's tenure.

Tweets written during the course of a day carry no weight, except in the perception of those on the extreme ends of the spectrum looking to prop up, or knock down, the US Pres. regardless of what has been released via twitter. Tweets just aren't that important to the outcome and determination of policy.  If people here have been using tweets as a determining factor regarding their opinion of this administration or Pres. Trump, or even the previous administration based on tweets; good luck with that.  If it isn't worthy of being said in an official press release, or a daily briefing, why care except to reinforce a previously held belief?  I cannot believe anyone could make that kind of tracking of anyone a part of their life, but I just some do just that.

 

Now that I am aware how important tweets are to this thread...

 

I have no idea what your nonsense reference with regard to post output relating to twits was about. Considering your own output and content I wouldn't bring it up if I was you.

 

As much as you'd like to, Trump isn't a poster of TVF, and his words, often idiotic as they are, cause a steer through whichever venue they are conveyed. This does have an effect on issues pertaining to economy, foreign relations, policies and legal matters. That you make a distinction between press announcements or official addresses and Trump's tweeting is all very fine - only that Trump sees it otherwise, and have commented on this several times.

 

People do not necessarily base all their opinions regarding Trump on his tweets, but ignoring these altogether is just a contrived effort at deflection. And nobody needs to make tracking Trump's tweets part of their lives, these feature almost daily in any news section on any media source. Rather, "unbelievable" would more closely be associated with pretending not to be aware of them.

[Andaman Al]

^^^  Every Trump 'tweet box' is a window looking in to the real person.