Can I skip 90 Day Reporting on 25Nov, as flying out on 26Nov?

[IMA_FARANG]

You probabaly can , however, you can also do a 90 day report by mail, or do ieven do it  early.

It isn't much effort and just shows your dierespect for the reules.

Whatever.

 

 

 

[realenglish1]

All I can say is he checked it and it was fine and issued the next  90 day report so I did not have a problem If I am wrong I accept it 

but There was no issue

Oh on top of that I had my Visa transferred to a new passport prior to reporting  my 90 days and again Had no problem with it 

So I am scratching my head wonder who is right here 

[partington]

20 hours ago, gaviny said:

I just rang up Jomtein Immigration this morning regarding this as my 90 day report is due on 5th December, I'm flying out on 7th December.She told me that I don't have to report as its falls under the grace period.

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 Either you or Jomtien misunderstood what was being asked or what you were told. 

 

The grace period is a period within which you are allowed to do the 90-day report. It does not mean a 90-day report is not necessary if you stay 92 days. Common sense tells you that is ridiculous.

 

The 90-day report is called that because as soon as you have spent 90 consecutive days in the country the report becomes obligatory. You must do it: the fact they give you a week after in which to do it without getting fined does not mean it is not due. 

 

 

[bruceamstutz]

On ‎11‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 11:43 PM, jumbo said:

I had this issue once. The lady immi officer shouted out to her superior 'one day overstay'

I pointed out it was no overstay and i had an extension of stay based on marriage and I could have reported

the 90 days within a week after the date at my immigration office.

Her supervisor whispered something, she proceeded with her work and I asked her if all was OK.

She reacted irritated and said; I am just checking for you so you wont have problems when you return.

So I said thank you and shut up as I felt I was 'pushing' it..

Funny people

 

Called loss of Face......Easily done here and other Asian Countries....

[perdido]

On 11/25/2016 at 2:49 AM, tgeezer said:

Immigration are not daft and they are not out to get you if you are within the rules.

On day 90 you are telling them where you will be for the next 90 days, you won't even be at your address for one of those days so what are you telling them? 

...don't know , am not as smart as you . Spell it out , please .....

[merijn]

On 11/25/2016 at 6:02 AM, realenglish1 said:

Very inaccurate information from the uniformed. Since you are leaving it is considered reporting when you go through immigration checkpoints .

As for one day over the 90 day reporting You are allowed a one week grace period for reporting so since you are only one day over the

90 day reporting you are well within that time period No need to worry

I just did it a few months ago and was over by  2 days no problem when I renewed it at immigration the next 90 day period

 

The others here do not know what the are talking about 

Sorry to disappoint you but it's you who is inaccurate.

Even while boarder immigration does not check the 90 day reporting date officially it should be up to date.

The 7 day grace period is only for doing reporting and not for leaving the country.

[realenglish1]

14 hours ago, merijn said:

Sorry to disappoint you but it's you who is inaccurate.

Even while boarder immigration does not check the 90 day reporting date officially it should be up to date.

The 7 day grace period is only for doing reporting and not for leaving the country.

I checked with immigration and they have stated that when you cross a boarder and your passport is stamped that is considered reporting. On top of that the officer I talked with also stated that  a 2 day over the 90 days up to  7 days is acceptable 

This is from a Thai Boarder officer 

[brewsterbudgen]

21 minutes ago, realenglish1 said:

I checked with immigration and they have stated that when you cross a boarder and your passport is stamped that is considered reporting. On top of that the officer I talked with also stated that  a 2 day over the 90 days up to  7 days is acceptable 

This is from a Thai Boarder officer 

 

Doesn't make it correct though!  Crossing the border is completely separate from 90 day reporting.

[realenglish1]

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Doesn't make it correct though!  Crossing the border is completely separate from 90 day reporting.

I just got off the phone with an immigration Lawyer and he confirmed what  I have done is legal and correct

So you need to check  your sources my friend

[brewsterbudgen]

4 minutes ago, realenglish1 said:

I just got off the phone with an immigration Lawyer and he confirmed what  I have done is legal and correct

So you need to check  your sources my friend

 I actually think you might need a better lawyer! 

[realenglish1]

On 11/25/2016 at 4:37 PM, gaviny said:

I just rang up Jomtein Immigration this morning regarding this as my 90 day report is due on 5th December, I'm flying out on 7th December.She told me that I don't have to report as its falls under the grace period.

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You see every authority I talk with says I am right and you think I am wrong Dont speak unless you know my friend

[Get Real]

On 2016-11-24 at 11:12 AM, jumbo said:

I can only tell what happened to me and I am still puzzled where she got the one day overstay from..

She must have counted from my last stamp on the TM card but taking 3 months is not normal for  a stay in Thailand without any kind of visa or extension

So she herself mixed things up...

 

Looks to me that really nothing happened at all to you. She realized her misstake and fixed it for you. If you were looking for an apology, you are far out in the wrong country. Instead she corrected her wrong with trying to make you think that she made something for you. That´s just the way here.

[realenglish1]

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

 I actually think you might need a better lawyer! 

Well immigration says I am right and  a lawyer says I am right so I think I will go with the ones who know and not someone like you my friend

[muzmurray]

1 minute ago, realenglish1 said:

Well immigration says I am right and  a lawyer says I am right so I think I will go with the ones who know and not someone like you my friend

 

Please report back if/when you get fined for not doing your 90 day report. And make sure to save 20 Baht to call your Border officer and lawyer - to tell them they gave you duff info.

[brewsterbudgen]

3 minutes ago, realenglish1 said:

Well immigration says I am right and  a lawyer says I am right so I think I will go with the ones who know and not someone like you my friend

 

It is confusing especially with all the different terminology.  However, 90 day reporting has always been dealt with completely separately from crossing the border.  A new 90 day period starts from when you return to Thailand.  No one at the border is remotely interested in your 90 day reporting.

[realenglish1]

7 minutes ago, muzmurray said:

 

Please report back if/when you get fined for not doing your 90 day report. And make sure to save 20 Baht to call your Border officer and lawyer - to tell them they gave you duff info.

Ok Mr Smarty pants This was taken from Thai immigration on THEIR WEBSITE and I QUOTE

• Applicants can submit this online application within 15 days but not less than 7 days before the due date of notification. ( see example )
• However, if you leave Thailand anytime during the 90-day period, then the day count will restart from upon the arrival date of your re-entry into Thailand.

So  stick that in your hat again don't talk unless you know your source

[brewsterbudgen]

1 minute ago, realenglish1 said:

Ok Mr Smarty pants This was taken from Thai immigration on THEIR WEBSITE and I QUOTE

• Applicants can submit this online application within 15 days but not less than 7 days before the due date of notification. ( see example )
• However, if you leave Thailand anytime during the 90-day period, then the day count will restart from upon the arrival date of your re-entry into Thailand.

So  stick that in your hat again don't talk unless you know your source

 

Yes. That's what we've been repeatedly trying to tell you!  Glad you've finally got it.

[realenglish1]

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Yes. That's what we've been repeatedly trying to tell you!  Glad you've finally got it.

I understood all the time what the requirements where just seems little bit bad communication 

[merijn]

6 minutes ago, realenglish1 said:

Ok Mr Smarty pants This was taken from Thai immigration on THEIR WEBSITE and I QUOTE

• Applicants can submit this online application within 15 days but not less than 7 days before the due date of notification. ( see example )
• However, if you leave Thailand anytime during the 90-day period, then the day count will restart from upon the arrival date of your re-entry into Thailand.

So  stick that in your hat again don't talk unless you know your source

Your quote is totally correct.

When reporting inside Thailand you have the grace period as mentioned.

And the 90 day count starts indeed when returning back into the country.

 

But when leaving the country the 90 day reporting has to be op to date and there is no grace period.

As i and others sad the boarding immigration don't really care about the 90 day reporting and it is to much work for them to check it out. (but they can check and fine you if they want)

Therefore it is normally not a problem and that's why they will tell you it's not a problem to leave the country when you are overdue with your reporting.

 

[GarryP]

This is getting entertaining.

 

Just one question. If you failed to make your 90 day report, leaving the Kingdom on day 95, and returned two years later and stayed long enough to need to make another 90 day report, would immigration fine you for the missing report which should have been made 2 years previously (assume you are on the same passport? Just asking.  

 

Mr. realenglish, please carefully read the second bullet point in your post #46. The person asking the original question is not leaving "Thailand anytime during the 90-day period". He is leaving after the 90-day period. 

[brewsterbudgen]

1 minute ago, GarryP said:

This is getting entertaining.

 

Just one question. If you failed to make your 90 day report, leaving the Kingdom on day 95, and returned two years later and stayed long enough to need to make another 90 day report, would immigration fine you for the missing report which should have been made 2 years previously (assume you are on the same passport? Just asking.  

 

Mr. realenglish, please carefully read the second bullet point in your post #46. The person asking the original question is not leaving "Thailand anytime during the 90-day period". He is leaving after the 90-day period. 

 

They could if they wanted to!  As I think I mentioned earlier in thread, I was in the same position as the OP and left without making my 90 day report (5 days overdue).  90 days after returning, I submitted a report by post, and the non-reporting from earlier was not picked up.  I have a feeling that doing it by post minimises the likelihood of being fined.

[ubonjoe]

I don't understand why all the discussion about this. Just do the report in person, online or by mail before leaving. Easy to do and no worries that way.

Or plan your trip out on or before the 90th day.

[muzmurray]

27 minutes ago, realenglish1 said:

Ok Mr Smarty pants This was taken from Thai immigration on THEIR WEBSITE and I QUOTE

• Applicants can submit this online application within 15 days but not less than 7 days before the due date of notification. ( see example )
• However, if you leave Thailand anytime during the 90-day period, then the day count will restart from upon the arrival date of your re-entry into Thailand.

So  stick that in your hat again don't talk unless you know your source

 

Nothing like proving you are wrong, well done!

[muzmurray]

On 11/26/2016 at 0:26 PM, realenglish1 said:

All I can say is he checked it and it was fine and issued the next  90 day report so I did not have a problem If I am wrong I accept it 

but There was no issue

Oh on top of that I had my Visa transferred to a new passport prior to reporting  my 90 days and again Had no problem with it 

So I am scratching my head wonder who is right here 

 

Wrong on that point as well, visas are not transferred.

 

:-)

[realenglish1]

3 minutes ago, muzmurray said:

 

Wrong on that point as well, visas are not transferred.

 

:-)

VIsa or Permission to stay for me a semantic  It was transferred no problem 

[muzmurray]

11 minutes ago, realenglish1 said:

VIsa or Permission to stay for me a semantic  It was transferred no problem 

 

And that is one good reason you maybe should not be giving advice - because the difference is large and important. Using the wrong terms, just because for you it is semantics, leads the way to possibly incorrect and worse, costly advice.

[realenglish1]

Just now, muzmurray said:

 

And that is one good reason you maybe should not be giving advice - because the difference is large and important. Using the wrong terms, just because for you it is semantics, leads the way to possibly incorrect and worse, costly advice.

Give it up I dont care 

[merijn]

2 hours ago, realenglish1 said:

VIsa or Permission to stay for me a semantic  It was transferred no problem 

 

Visas which are issued outside Thailand (unless in special circumstances) and Extension Of Stay which are issues inside Thailand are 2 complete different things and cannot compared to each other.

[HampiK]

3 hours ago, realenglish1 said:

VIsa or Permission to stay for me a semantic  It was transferred no problem 

 

In the begining I was thinking this not important and was not understanding why so many in here want to make this differences.

 

But now when I understand the processes little bit better I see that this really is a big difference. Especially when someone ask a specific question where the answer is different if you are on a visa or on an extension.

 

Most "normal" people don't care because they come to thailand with a visa for holiday or the 30 days excempt stamp... But for person who want to stay inside Thailand longer (married, retirement,...)

[MaxiMaxi]

But how did the story end?? He was leaving on 26, today is 29 so he should have left already. Did he tell something? Or just caused the discussion and then...bye bye....???