DOORS in new construction ???

[eyecatcher]

I am obviously the only English person on this thread; terminology...Profiles are what we call them and yes its the standard way to go in the UK, simply because brickies are often too lazy to plumb up their own reveals, and secondly ordering windows in the UK is generally on a 2 month lead in period rather than a trip to the local store and picking up one of the standard sizes.

A profile would never ever be left in place during plastering though as the finished plaster would finish off the doorframe.

 

of course if you were fitting a prehung door set, the door lining could be fitted in lieu of a profile for very simple fixing thereafter.

 

 

[Ahnsahn]

The security/screen doors open outward.

 

Where can we locate good security-type screen doors? Can you post a photo of your security/screen door?

Edited December 9, 2016 by Ahnsahn

[sandyf]

On 12/7/2016 at 10:04 AM, Anythingleft? said:

There is a better way to do this but you will not find any builders to change the way that they understand. The frames will be built around then the doors hung at a later stage. Have the frames orienteered the way you want them as Thais tend to swing doors opposite to UK standards if you wish (or care to) but then make sure the light switches are also installed to suit the swing of the door

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The way the doors open and the position of the light switches should be on the plans. If your builder is not working to plans then you are on a hiding to nothing, they get it wrong even with plans.

 

I had wooden doors put on my bathrooms and it is not a problem if they are kept away from any water spray. There should be a difference in the floor levels and the bottom of the door should be at the room floor level and not the bathroom.

My doors are the solid wood panel type and one of the bedroom doors warped after about a year which made it a bit difficult to close but it hasn't got any worse in the last 6 years.

 

The second picture is of a doorframe for a sliding door into one of the bathrooms.

[khundon]

On 07/12/2016 at 2:33 AM, longball53098 said:

Thai builders do not use pre-hung doors. Don't waste your time or money to get them fitted that way as they will just dismount the door and install the frame during wall building. AS already stated they install the frame just prior to building the walls and brace in place. They construct the brick walls and lentils around the door frame. And guess what? The frame gets knocked out of square during all this work. Later when they finish work is being done they custom fit the door in to the frame sono two doors are exactly the same. Some builders do a better job of this process and of course some are horrible. When they mount the hinges to the hardwood frame many of the screws holding the hinges are broken in the process

 

Their method for installing doors and windows is horrible IMHO

That's because the Thais carpenters use one of these.

[claynlr]

On ‎12‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 6:19 AM, Crossy said:

We got all our (hardwood) doors and fames from a specialist "door man", his catalog is posted somewhere on ThaiVisa, I'll see if I can find it.

 

More choice and better quality than the bucket shops, made to order so could be customised for size (we didn't), obviously not the cheap solution (Wifey doesn't do cheap).

 

Installed by an excellent Khmer chippie who also did our hardwood floors, railings / bannister and windows.

 

Good craftsmen who take a pride in their work are out there, but not always easy to find.

 

If you can find the catalog, I would like to see it Crossy. As a framing and interior trim carpenter in the USA, I have given door installation a bit of thought and had decided to do the sub-frame procedure on my future build as has been described. Let them brick up to the sub-frame and install the finish frame with door after render and  floor tiling (no need to undercut or notch tile around door frame), attaching it to the sub-frame. I would use either 2 layers of 3/4" plywood to make the sub-frame or 2X material so to have plenty to attach to.

[wayned]

6 hours ago, claynlr said:

If you can find the catalog, I would like to see it Crossy. As a framing and interior trim carpenter in the USA, I have given door installation a bit of thought and had decided to do the sub-frame procedure on my future build as has been described. Let them brick up to the sub-frame and install the finish frame with door after render and  floor tiling (no need to undercut or notch tile around door frame), attaching it to the sub-frame. I would use either 2 layers of 3/4" plywood to make the sub-frame or 2X material so to have plenty to attach to.

Just like at home.  Too bad you can't find the finished adjustable frames with the doors already installed with removable pins in the hinges and the lock and door knob holes already cut here.  I assume that since you are from the USA  are you going to have them open into the rooms except closests.  Also are you going to have your electrical sockets installed 12 inches above the floor like the US so they will be hidden by furniture?

 

I can't find 3/4"plywood where I live in the boonies so I make my own by laminating two pieces of 3/8 together.

[claynlr]

5 hours ago, wayned said:

Just like at home.  Too bad you can't find the finished adjustable frames with the doors already installed with removable pins in the hinges and the lock and door knob holes already cut here.  I assume that since you are from the USA  are you going to have them open into the rooms except closests.  Also are you going to have your electrical sockets installed 12 inches above the floor like the US so they will be hidden by furniture?

 

I can't find 3/4"plywood where I live in the boonies so I make my own by laminating two pieces of 3/8 together.

Yep! LOL

[Crossy]

Incredibly I found the catalogue. Here it is.

 

 

 

[kannot]

On 12/7/2016 at 9:33 AM, longball53098 said:

Thai builders do not use pre-hung doors. Don't waste your time or money to get them fitted that way as they will just dismount the door and install the frame during wall building. AS already stated they install the frame just prior to building the walls and brace in place. They construct the brick walls and lentils around the door frame. And guess what? The frame gets knocked out of square during all this work. Later when they finish work is being done they custom fit the door in to the frame sono two doors are exactly the same. Some builders do a better job of this process and of course some are horrible. When they mount the hinges to the hardwood frame many of the screws holding the hinges are broken in the process

 

Their method for installing doors and windows is horrible IMHO

Screws  broken as they dont pre drill the holes, this is a "must" in hardwoods

[kannot]

On 12/8/2016 at 7:36 AM, catman20 said:

2 or 3 times a day

Nope ,ALL DAY

[kannot]

On 12/8/2016 at 8:49 AM, Crossy said:

We got all our (hardwood) doors and fames from a specialist "door man", his catalog is posted somewhere on ThaiVisa, I'll see if I can find it.

 

More choice and better quality than the bucket shops, made to order so could be customised for size (we didn't), obviously not the cheap solution (Wifey doesn't do cheap).

 

Installed by an excellent Khmer chippie who also did our hardwood floors, railings / bannister and windows.

 

Good craftsmen who take a pride in their work are out there, but not always easy to find.

 

Aint that the truth..................I gave up  hunting in the end

[wayned]

In the US all doors only have 2 hinges, not three, unless they are very heavy (with removable hinge pins since they open outward).  I get a kick out off the Thai reasoning for putting three hinges on all doors.  They say "door bent (warped)".  That's not the real reason, the real reason is that since the doors are not installed pre-hung and the frames are installed first without proper bracing to hold them square the frames are actually "bent"!!!

[catman20]

More choice and better quality than the bucket shops, made to order so could be customised for size (we didn't), obviously not the cheap solution (Wifey doesn't do cheap).

they never do,do cheap when we are paying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! easiest thing in the world is to spend someone eles money