webfact Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Thailand ranks 55th out of 70 countries in PISA 2015 results BANGKOK: -- Thailand was placed at the 55th ranking out of a total of 70 countries in the Programme for International Students Assessment (PISA) 2015 results, said Deputy Education Minister Dr Thirakiat Charoensetthasilpa on Wednesday. He said he had informed Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha about the PISA 2015 results of Thai students which was lower than the results in 2012 for all subjects. He added that the prime minister was disappointed with the results and urged the Education Ministry to speed up the implementation of the national education plan which aims to increase the PISA score by about 100 points in all subjects in 15 years. Personally, Dr Thirakiat admitted he was disappointed with the performance of Thai students. The results, he said, reflected a huge gap of performance between students in elite schools and those in underprivileged schools. He noted that the performance in science, reading and mathematics of students at certain schools such as Mahidol Wittthayanusorn and Chulabhorn Wittayalai is at the same level with schools in countries which were placed at higher rankings in PISA results. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/thailand-ranks-55th-out-of-70-countries-in-pisa-2015-results/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 PISA just needs to test different skill sets, like speed racing on public hwys or how to upload erroneous answers onto facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman2543 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sometimes the truth hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 "...Personally, Dr Thirakiat admitted he was disappointed with the performance of Thai students. The results, he said, reflected a huge gap of performance between students in elite schools and those in underprivileged schools...the PISA results show the collective performance of students of all schools..." Yep, it's the fault of those underprivileged kids (dragging down Thailand's ranking) !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Yeah, love that plug for the hi-so schools affiliated to hi-so universities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Education chief blames disparity in system for students’ poor show By Pratch Rujivanarom The Nation Photo from www.education-medelle.com BANGKOK: -- THE EDUCATION ministry has blamed disparity in the Thai education system for the nation’s disappointingly low scores and rankings in the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) and Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS). Thailand remained below average in both international academic surveys for 2015, the results of which were announced yesterday by the ministry. While Singapore secured top ranking in both PISA and TIMSS, students in Vietnam – still regarded as an emerging country – fared better than their Thai counterparts. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30301640 -- © Copyright The Nation 2016-12-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Every state system in affected countries is running the "increasing disparity defence". There is some merit in countries where those performing highly, Singapore and Japan just refuse refugees or asylum seekers. Thailand is not truly a pluralistic society and does have known systemic educational problems to address, but the 'disparity' defence does not wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Now then, if only Thai students had been asked really important questions like the 10 core values and all they have to chant at 0800 on school days they'd have run away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMartinHandyman Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 "That darned disparity is to blame! Thank goodness for our elite schools. Can you imagine the score without them?" "Luckily I'm only a deputy so I still have my job! I'm not sure about the senior minister yet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Not sure about PISa ranking, But Thailand is up there at the top with Pizza consumptions if judging by the number of deliveries coming to our condo day and night.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatawonderfulday Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 And would you expect anything better from a load of brainwashed morons ? Unfortunately the powers that be have cultivated these people for their own benefit for decades. In fact you could say it is the only thing they have done consistently well at. The hub of brainwashing to maintain feudal servitude. Only Pol Pot did better at blatant oppression, well maybe N Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Even worse, Thailand ranked 64th in PIZZA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 This is just the output from the input the teachers give ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Fifteenth from the bottom would seem quite low bearing in mind that other countries experienced a turnaround in achievements including Australia , Singapore held its own, referring back to Australia they are spending half as much more than five years ago and the results showed that Oz students slipped back some one to two years in learning behind Singapore so I hope that's some consolation to General Prayut's disappointment, the education authorities in OZ are far from pleased possibly the amount spent on students in Oz would be twice as much as what Thailand spends on defence for half a year, its hard to judge, as I have never seen a correct set of figures for Thailand's military, if you get my drift........................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksamuiguy Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 These Kids are the future leaders and teachers of Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boooker Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 What is an issue that some performing executives in private sectors are in par with it...Directors whom suppose have educational knowledge sometimes stunts me as to where they possible could had received an BA MBA PHD level as the basic know how is not there...so how that reflect to the up down level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 There is no joy for the UK, Australia or the USA in these results either. Why are students in these countries falling behind? ( and falling behind not only in respect of the highest ranked countries but also relative to their own levels in previous studies....that is, a real decline. Not budget related ...as someone else mentioned, real expenditure has increased. Maybe something to do with the quality of teaching? Australian universities will take ANYONE with a pulse into a teaching degree ( why? To meet their quotas and to justify their own bloated salaries). When some of those teaching struggle with Grade 10 maths, it's understandable that students will have difficulty as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 hours ago, NongKhaiKid said: Now then, if only Thai students had been asked really important questions like the 10 core values and all they have to chant at 0800 on school days they'd have run away with it. Right! The world has got it all wrong, and all tests across the planet should be about the great Thai 12 Core Values, knowing the lyrics of the Happiness song, and having a smattering of knowledge of glorious Thai (concocted) history. That's the way forward. I'll contact the PM right now and suggest it .... Oh - he has already thought of, and implemented, this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 On the upside - they finished within the top 80% of countries . Back to them mass thought experiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ouch, it sure hurts when Vietnam has much much better score than Thailand and they went through a devastating war and have to re-build the whole country while Thailand was cruising along. In overall PISA score, Vietnam was placed 8th and Thailand at a a low 54. Wouldn't be long before Vietnam become the second largest economy in ASEAN and Thailand will lag behind and probably eclipsed by Myanmar in 10 years time. Thailand, a self made mess and gross under-achiever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Ouch, it sure hurts when Vietnam has much much better score than Thailand and they went through a devastating war and have to re-build the whole country while Thailand was cruising along. In overall PISA score, Vietnam was placed 8th and Thailand at a a low 54. Wouldn't be long before Vietnam become the second largest economy in ASEAN and Thailand will lag behind and probably eclipsed by Myanmar in 10 years time. Thailand, a self made mess and gross under-achiever. Brilliant post - full of painful truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Oh, the gravity of it all, it's just like being back in the middle ages !!! As if defying the Laws of Nature, it seems (that in Thailand), the level of "elite" kids is being pulled down by their poorer compatriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 4 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand remained below average in both international academic surveys for 2015 Despite classroom hours for Thai students being among the highest in the world and education receiving 24% of the national budget - the second highest in the world! (Bangkok news source that cannot be cited in TV) In March 2015 Education Minister General Dapong Ratanasuwan blamed poor student performances on inadequate class hours and too many extra-curricular activities. But then the Office of the Basic Education Commission moved in April 2015 to start cutting class time by two hours a day and dictated what types of activities should be provided for students. Thailand will be lucky to maintain its 55th ranking in future years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 But then the government wants pliant sheeple, doesn't it? What better way to do that than keep the population dumbed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealthychef Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Prbkk said: There is no joy for the UK, Australia or the USA in these results either. Why are students in these countries falling behind? ( and falling behind not only in respect of the highest ranked countries but also relative to their own levels in previous studies....that is, a real decline. Not budget related ...as someone else mentioned, real expenditure has increased. Maybe something to do with the quality of teaching? Australian universities will take ANYONE with a pulse into a teaching degree ( why? To meet their quotas and to justify their own bloated salaries). When some of those teaching struggle with Grade 10 maths, it's understandable that students will have difficulty as well. I think it is because at least in the USA, our education system focuses more and more on becoming employed in a corporation than on being an effective and vocal citizen in a democracy or learning to live an enlightened life by studying history, literature, and science. I think true education involves learning to think critically, and anyone thinking critically at the moment will ask hard questions like why is the USA bombing so many countries? Why is there a huge income gap between the haves and have-nots? Why don't we switch away from fossil fuels if there is really climate change happening? Why do our politicians lie to us so much? Etc. It's better to "educate" kids to recite facts that are safe, like that racism is bad, math is math, and propaganda like communism is from the devil, America is #1, etc. Anything else might cause more trouble for the elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealthychef Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Despite classroom hours for Thai students being among the highest in the world and education receiving 24% of the national budget - the second highest in the world! (Bangkok news source that cannot be cited in TV) In March 2015 Education Minister General Dapong Ratanasuwan blamed poor student performances on inadequate class hours and too many extra-curricular activities. But then the Office of the Basic Education Commission moved in April 2015 to start cutting class time by two hours a day and dictated what types of activities should be provided for students. Thailand will be lucky to maintain its 55th ranking in future years. Sounds like health care policy in the USA. High costs, crony capitalism, and poor outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Disease & Remedy (Thai style) Thailand ranks 55th out of 70 countries in PISA 2015 results. Fake diplomas and degrees touted openly online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yup...blame the students for the really 5h1tty school - and education system! Raise people to be sheep, teach them stuff like singing the National Anthem, recite 12 core values of keeping- your-head-down and goose- stepping around the school yard and then complain, that they don't do better in international competition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I thought the Youngs were issued free notebooks...the miracle medicine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 We had an hour of cleaning outside in the college this morning as our new director will start today. I had to show my students (15-19 years old) how to sweep the pavement outside our building because it looked the same after they had finished their first round as it did before they started. Even such an easy task as throwaway waste laying around was too difficult for many of them! In the classroom I can see many of them having problem, not only when taught subjects in English but also in Thai as some of them don't even know either the Thai or the English alphabet and most of them can't manage critical thinking, problem solving or think outside the box: 1+1=1 (one pile of rice + one pile of rice is one pile of rice) 1+1=2 (standard) 1+1=3 (not really OK... but I use "1 man + 1 woman might turn in to a family of 3") 1+1=10 (binary code) An even sadder thing is that the students in my home country are turning the same! I actually believe that this trend comes from the IT and technology advancements that's been over the last 20 years. When I grew up we had use our imagination when interacting and playing with our friends compared with today when you put 5 children in a room and they interact through Facebook and/or games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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