West Ham Thread

[wilai]

So it has finaly happened,Upton Park has been sold to build 700 apartments a sad day , not been for a good few

year now, will miss it ,can not see myself going to the Olympic park(or what ever it is called/going to be called).At least there is talk of erecting a memorial to Bobby More,on the site,at Upton Park.

Another 10000 Poles moving in....so you will be basically homeless....as you are only renting your new ground.

Nice.

Poles? ......in Green Street downtown Mumbai?

The Eastern Europeans are taking over mate....you should get home more often!

Met ex colleagues in the Duke of Edinburgh last week....those Poles you mention must have been in the sun too long

[smokie36]

Anyway...let's discuss your twins selling off your asses and leaving you homeless....that's what they bought your club for....once the deals are done they will be off with their asset stripping lolly.

Sad really....even to you lot.

Not so vocal on this topic are ya wilai?

[iancnx]

Anyway...let's discuss your twins selling off your asses and leaving you homeless....that's what they bought your club for....once the deals are done they will be off with their asset stripping lolly.

Sad really....even to you lot.

Not so vocal on this topic are ya wilai?

Smokes, too early in the morning mate! Do you do shifts?

[tw25rw]

Anyway...let's discuss your twins selling off your asses and leaving you homeless....that's what they bought your club for....once the deals are done they will be off with their asset stripping lolly.

Sad really....even to you lot.

Not so vocal on this topic are ya wilai?

I'm yet to have my ass sold by either twin.

[wilai]

Anyway...let's discuss your twins selling off your asses and leaving you homeless....that's what they bought your club for....once the deals are done they will be off with their asset stripping lolly.

Sad really....even to you lot.

Not so vocal on this topic are ya wilai?

??? Got sod all to do with me Smokes. Am perfectly happy with JWH and his lovely wife!

[socrates28]

This comes from a very very reliable source

The reason behind Morrison wanting to leave West Ham:

Prior to this saga of him wanting to join Fulham etc there was a Training Ground bust up between Morrison (M) and Noble (N)

The story goes that a ball went out of play and N asked/told M to get it - M took offence and words were exchanged - it got more heated and N knocked M to the floor with a single punch

The players jumped in and separated them - M vowed that to FS that he wanted a transfer and in any case could not play as he has a niggling groin strain

M is very unpopular at WHU even Nolan who was told to keep an eye on him has washed his hands of him

So expect him to be sold at the end of the season

[tw25rw]

If it was someone other than Noble, I would find it more plausible..

[socrates28]

If it was someone other than Noble, I would find it more plausible..

Up to you!

[Chicog]

Everyone's got a "very very good source", i.e. some bloke in a pub who claims his sister's BFF is some player's hairdresser or something.

[StevieH]

This comes from a very very reliable source

The reason behind Morrison wanting to leave West Ham:

Prior to this saga of him wanting to join Fulham etc there was a Training Ground bust up between Morrison (M) and Noble (N)

The story goes that a ball went out of play and N asked/told M to get it - M took offence and words were exchanged - it got more heated and N knocked M to the floor with a single punch

The players jumped in and separated them - M vowed that to FS that he wanted a transfer and in any case could not play as he has a niggling groin strain

M is very unpopular at WHU even Nolan who was told to keep an eye on him has washed his hands of him

So expect him to be sold at the end of the season

your very good source would seem to completely contradict a journalist who could be sued if this was inaccurate. no mention of mark curtis at all?

Ravel Morrison's unravelling at West Ham United is a tremendous waste

Midfielder who gloriously waltzed through Tottenham Hotspur's defence is cut loose by club and heading to QPR

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/feb/15/ravel-morrison-west-ham-united-waste?CMP=twt_gu

There is a clip of Ravel Morrison, from an England Under-21s training session, when a corner comes in from the right and no matter how many times you watch it, even in slow motion, it is still almost implausible how he creates that lovely sound of ball against net.

It is as if heading the ball, or going for the volley, is just too straightforward and too bland for a player with his gifts. He twists his body, his back leg flicks around and he is mid-air, facing away from goal, when it connects. It is the kind of finish that would ordinarily be found only on a computer game but Morrison saunters away as if it was the most normal thing in the world.

Morrison had already had one round of applause on those blowy pitches in Staffordshire, after chipping the goalkeeper with the delicacy of a champion golfer pitching in and before anyone raises the obvious, nobody can say he is just a training-ground player. His goal at Tottenham earlier this season, waltzing past a couple of challenges and advancing from the halfway line, was a demonstration of high skill and balance that suggested we were seeing the flowering of the potential that once had Sir Alex Ferguson acclaiming Morrison as the most talented youngster he had seen since the schoolboy Paul Scholes.

The two he scored in his first full match for England's Under-21s were not too shabby either and it does not feel too long ago since a group of us journalists were breaking bread with Roy Hodgson in the Soho Hotel, reflecting on the senior team qualifying for the World Cup after the previous night's win against Poland, and the conversation turned to which players could force their way into his squad. Morrison was one of the first names the England manager mentioned and there was nothing at the time that felt incongruous about it.

Hodgson met us for lunch again a few days ago but this time nobody brought up Morrison. A player who was bewitching Premier League audiences before Christmas will join QPR this week, dropping down into the Championship in a three-month loan arrangement that pretty much takes a sledgehammer to any chance of him being on the plane to Brazil. After that, it is unclear what happens, other than to say it is amazing how quickly everything has unravelled for him at West Ham. As it stands, it is difficult to imagine him playing for the club again.

It is an unusual, complex story and, inevitably, football being the business it is, there will be some who automatically assume he must have done something wrong. In football, it has always been easier to get a bad name than to lose one and Morrison's previous means there is an instinct, sometimes, to apportion blame his way. It would be a lazy assumption. Morrison has done some stupid things but it has been a few years now since he knotted a tie for court. He is still paying the price for those juvenile misdemeanours and he has had to get used to seeing his name prefaced in print with words such as "wayward" and "bad boy". Yet everyone at West Ham can confirm he has knuckled down and shown a level of dedication and professionalism that was not always there. Morrison does not drink or go to nightclubs. His diet is right. He has a steady girlfriend and better influences outside the club than people realise. Of course, he still needs guidance, but at 21 he is not the same impulsive kid of 17. Now, three months after Sam Allardyce talked of Morrison reaching the very top of his profession, he is being cut free. It is no wonder West Ham fans are feeling confused.

The first thing to say is that it all feels like a tremendous waste, and there is something deeply unsatisfactory about the chain of events that has brought him to this point.

Towards the end of last year, Morrison was invited to a meeting with the football agent Mark Curtis to see if he wanted to become one of his clients. Curtis does this a fair bit with Allardyce's players. At West Ham, he either represents or has links with Allardyce, Kevin Nolan, James Tomkins, Jack Collison, Matt Jarvis, Andy Carroll, Jussi Jaaskelainen and Adrian. Look through his history and there is a fairly astounding pattern of players signing up to him from Allardyce teams. He also has a chequered past of his own, with an official warning from the Football Association after the 2008 investigation into Luton Town's illegal transfer dealings.

Morrison was not keen but, since then, his complaint is that he has felt under considerable pressure from Allardyce and Nolan to change his mind, claiming it is brought up on an almost daily basis. His grievance is that he wanted to go into training to learn and improve, not to have endless conversations about an agent he did not want to employ.

West Ham have put this to the relevant people and they strenuously deny it. Curtis says it is "nonsense", and there is no suggestion of any wrongdoing. But Morrison has become disillusioned with his manager and captain. Allardyce has talked of Morrison complaining about a groin injury when the medical staff could find no problem. Relationships have broken down. A few months ago, Morrison appeared to have the keys to the football universe. Now he cannot wait to get out of the club.

The issue has been discussed as high as it goes at Upton Park. Morrison was advised by one senior figure to put in a transfer request but decided against it. Fulham put in a £4m bid and West Ham reported them to the Premier League for alleged tapping up because of René Meulensteen saying he knew Morrison wanted to join them. The dispute may have put off Fulham from making an improved offer – West Ham wanted £10m – but no one should be too surprised if the complaint ultimately comes to nothing. The relevant people at Craven Cottage believe they have hard evidence, in line with this newspaper's information, that Morrison had been informed he should look for another club. If that is proven, West Ham's complaint will look hollow, to say the least. It will also leave their co-owners, David Sullivan and David Gold, with some awkward questions to answer.

The really perplexing thing is that a club with West Ham's ambitions should, surely, want to build their future around players of this refinement. It is not going to be straightforward filling 54,000 seats when they move to the Olympic Stadium in 2016. Morrison, playing as he was before Christmas, would have helped the process enormously. Instead, if the paperwork goes through, Morrison will not be at Upton Park when Allardyce's team play Southampton next weekend. He will be a few miles across London, making his QPR debut at Charlton Athletic, with a permanent deal possible in the summer.

His story is a reminder of how quickly everything can change in football. Except Morrison's belief is that little of this is actually about football. His emergence at West Ham was probably the most exciting since the early years of Joe Cole and Michael Carrick. He was the club's leading scorer and outstanding player. It seems strange, to say the least, for West Ham to shuffle that player out of the back door, especially when they are a club who normally pride themselves on looking after their own.

[socrates28]

Ian Dale has promised to release some ‘information’ next week, that gives another side to the Daniel Taylor article, will be interesting to see what he has to say.

[tw25rw]

Doesn't sound like something that can't be fixed if they handle him right. I doubt playing for Redknapp would be any different with regards to dodgy agents.

[socrates28]

Anyway back to the real story

4 wins in a row!

One goal conceded!

Keep up the good work lads - you are being paid well to do it!

Any coincidence that things clicked when Morrison was out of the team......

[tw25rw]

It was a great win. Well deserved. Can't see us getting anything at Everton, but Carroll will be back and fired up, so maybe..

We had a bit of luck too.. Jarvis's goal was off side. I saw it at the time even though my seat isn't in line and was surprised it wasn't given and TV proved it..

And Mark Clattenburg is the best ref IMO.. He should go to Brazil instead of Webb.

[keddy]

I think I would start with Carlton Cole against the Toffees and have the Geordie come on for the last half hour or so. As for the result, there is a curse for managers of the month to lose the next game but here's hoping

[wilai]

It was a great win. Well deserved. Can't see us getting anything at Everton, but Carroll will be back and fired up, so maybe..

We had a bit of luck too.. Jarvis's goal was off side. I saw it at the time even though my seat isn't in line and was surprised it wasn't given and TV proved it..

And Mark Clattenburg is the best ref IMO.. He should go to Brazil instead of Webb.

Don't mention the C.......... word mate. Lanng khao and his welsh/County Road cutter mates might be watching. 2nd only to Pierluigi Collina on their hit list

[wilai]

West Ham away......or the Tracey Brothers? You decide.

[uptheos]

David Sullivan wants the Hammers' badge to include the word 'London' to make them more marketable but says it is the fans' call

West Ham London....... is the proposed name.

David Sullivan says it's the fans call.......any opinion from hammers fans here?

[stoneyboy]

It will never happen.

[carmine]

David Sullivan wants the Hammers' badge to include the word 'London' to make them more marketable but says it is the fans' call

West Ham London....... is the proposed name.

David Sullivan says it's the fans call.......any opinion from hammers fans here?

not interested.

[tw25rw]

This is just to add the word London to the badge, not rename the club..

We already get loads of tourists at games. With a bigger ground to fill, we possibly need better marketing. But I don't see much point to this.

[Kayahammer]

Supposedly the West Ham friendlies in New Zealand will be shown in Thailand live.

I'm hoping CTH but cannot get any info from them.

Anyone know who will be showing them?

[alfieconn]

Supposedly the West Ham friendlies in New Zealand will be shown in Thailand live.

I'm hoping CTH but cannot get any info from them.

Anyone know who will be showing them?

The Cartoon Channel

[jellydog]

Supposedly the West Ham friendlies in New Zealand will be shown in Thailand live.

I'm hoping CTH but cannot get any info from them.

Anyone know who will be showing them?

The Cartoon Channel

Cruel and funny in equal measure.

[Kayahammer]

So funny! Really quality humour! So funny you should add those yellow things to emphasize how really funny that is. That makes it so much more funnier.

Go on some other threads and spread your really funny humour with the little yellow things showing how really funny you are.

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[Chicog]

So funny! Really quality humour! So funny you should add those yellow things to emphasize how really funny that is. That makes it so much more funnier.

Go on some other threads and spread your really funny humour with the little yellow things showing how really funny you are.

Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

[smokie36]

So funny! Really quality humour! So funny you should add those yellow things to emphasize how really funny that is. That makes it so much more funnier.

Go on some other threads and spread your really funny humour with the little yellow things showing how really funny you are.

Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

I hope this one sticks around!

[iancnx]

Cannot wait to give the Hammers a good shafting in match day one. COYS

[Chicog]

Cannot wait to give the Hammers a good shafting in match day one. COYS

You can tell it's preseason, our fairweather friend is back.

[carmine]

Supposedly the West Ham friendlies in New Zealand will be shown in Thailand live.

I'm hoping CTH but cannot get any info from them.

Anyone know who will be showing them?

Yes you were on CTH but it was cancelled through lack of interest.

Something about not wanting fat head Sam Alladichio anti football.