Walking Street land owners again scuttle demolition plan

[Naam]

1 hour ago, Bonobojt said:

walking street, a place where men who have been brainwashed by porn and advertisements take advantage of poor thai woman, give them money they really need to survive, for sex, I used to be like these men, I'm awake now.

hallelujah amen brother!

[Basil B]

Any legal land title deeds for what was the beach would have been got by bribing corrupt officials at the the land registry office, those who got these deeds knew they were  no legal and anyone who has bought any of the properties since would have had to pass money under the table to transfer the deeds so I do not think anyone should get any compensation, further more all those crooked civil servants who put their seal on those falsified documents should be imprisoned and all their assets seized. 

[louse1953]

Anything on the beach,piles,ect would have to be on public land.

[louse1953]

9 hours ago, pegman said:

You admittedly have absolutely zero knowledge about  Walking Street but  condem it anyhow. There is 3km of beach just north of it where any "decent hotels" can be built.

Walking is all most people do in Walking St.

[louse1953]

9 hours ago, Grubster said:

They may want to take a look at what happened in Cuba when they shut down the night life there.  Apples to Oranges maybe, but when you start to shut down a very profitable industry there will be ramifications.

So you condone corruption and corrupt people making a profit out of an outdated business model.The country is trying to move into a different type of country and it will.Why would you want to drag it back to the 60's.

[TEFLKrabi]

Walking Street is probably the biggest pull for tourists and Thais alike. You're never going to erase the corruption so leave it as it is. 

[louse1953]

8 hours ago, moe666 said:

All I hear here is OOO please make this just like my home the place I chose to leave because it was boring me to tears. Come o folks like it or not Walking Street is a part of Thailand and by the way families do not spend that much money.

It is not part of Thailand for Thais.It is for the desperate people who think a few bikini girls and coloured lights is tourism.This can be done anywhere, as Soi Cowboy proves.

[fforest1]

24 minutes ago, louse1953 said:

So you condone corruption and corrupt people making a profit out of an outdated business model.The country is trying to move into a different type of country and it will.Why would you want to drag it back to the 60's.

New is not always better..

[louse1953]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

The flipside of those numbers:  So why should Thailand even worry about losing the sex tourism trade if it's that insignificant?  

 

Or better yet, how difficult would it be to replace those tourist $$$ with an increase in family tourist $$$?

Sex tourist will not be replaced,just transfered to other areas.Sex tourists are a hardy bunch and will follow their..............noses.

[kraxlhuber]

8 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

I was under the impression that city hall wanted to move a lot of the red light area of Walking Street away from there and relocate it to the Soi Bukhaow, Soi Diamond, LK Metro area ? There is a huge plot of land that used to be the old Xcite disc before it mysteriously burnt down.

 

I seem to recollect that sort of move being heralded by city hall so that families could enjoy a family friendly Beach road/Walking Street.  

Arson Greed, Arson more Greed  Burn it  and case -in same as the  Burn discotheke burnt down some years ago in Bangkok and  opened  again in the same place despite  the fire killed  60 young people,

Why influential people get their way? (police owners) and the Pattaya mafia, Leit Motto: if you cannot beat- em, join- em

Edited December 17, 2016 by kraxlhuber

[kraxlhuber]

1 minute ago, kraxlhuber said:

Arson Greed, Arson more Greed  Burn it  and cas -in same as the  Burn discotheke burnt down some years ago  and  opened  again in the same place despite  the fire killed  60 young people, WHy influenta(police owners) and the Pattaya mafia, Leit Motto: if you cannot beat- em, join- em

 

38 minutes ago, louse1953 said:

Walking is all most people do in Walking St.

Walk the walk , talk the talk and BS

[elgordo38]

8 hours ago, fabphil said:

to have a park needs to have seats, there is not enough seats provided now, to have a nice beach one needs nice water to swim in, which pattaya will never have...not all tourists are depraved sex tourists, why should someone be classed as depraved because he likes looking at girls and thinks about shagging them, and then maybe he does, thats life with the male species...

If I am going to be a depraved old dirty pervert at least I want to do it in comfort. Chairs must be an option. Does the water have little brown submarines?

[elgordo38]

8 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Definition of vice

1. 1 a :  moral depravity or corruption :  wickedness b :  a moral fault or failing

 

And who pray tell will decide this issue ?  Some of the Holier than Thou posters here ?  Get a grip. And as for prostitutes being enslaved - I think someone needs to give their head a shake. Don't like it there - don't go. Simple.

Even Bible thumpers put the good book down once in a while and indulge. Its the nature of the beast. The inner rage they feel when looking at a beautiful damsel is not rage or hatred against its lust pure and simple. It all started with Adam and Eve and went downhill from there. Apple anybody?

[Trouble]

If the buildings on the beach side of Walking Street do indeed encroach on public land then rather than tear them down, the government should just start collecting rent on the property, a hefty rent.

[Golden Triangle]

I spoke to an owner of a place in Jomtien this afternoon, he told me that any plans to bulldoze the ocean side of Walking Street have been well and truly quashed.

 

This info came from someone who allegedly owns a few properties on WS.

 

We will wait and see, Article 44 covers a multitude of sins, so lets see if the good General agrees. 

[Basil B]

2 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

I spoke to an owner of a place in Jomtien this afternoon, he told me that any plans to bulldoze the ocean side of Walking Street have been well and truly quashed.

 

and it seems a lot of people talk through their arse...

 

My thoughts are the currant administration are up to a challenge and are more than willing to take on the Mr Big's, so one day soon any thing over the beach will come down. 

[Golden Triangle]

12 minutes ago, Basil B said:

 

and it seems a lot of people talk through their arse...

 

My thoughts are the currant administration are up to a challenge and are more than willing to take on the Mr Big's, so one day soon any thing over the beach will come down. 

 

No need to shoot the messenger Basil, I am only reporting a conversation I had earlier today, sheeesh you guys get far too heavy sometimes, take a <deleted> breath and relax.

 

And by the way, I am with you on your last paragraph, WS days are numbered, how big that number is ( in days) is also open to discussion.

 

Oh and the deleted bit was F-R-I-G-G-I-N, God forbid I would use the word SCUM 

 

Edited December 17, 2016 by Golden Triangle

[Grubster]

4 hours ago, louse1953 said:

So you condone corruption and corrupt people making a profit out of an outdated business model.The country is trying to move into a different type of country and it will.Why would you want to drag it back to the 60's.

There is corruption everywhere in every country, human nature.  There are sin cities in most countries.  One is not forced to live in one. I for one like the fact that the world is diverse and I don't want it to be changed to fit anybody's mold of a perfect world. I do not condone human trafficking or child sex, but I do think prostitution has its place.  I used to enjoy the wild life and I don't see why I should try to prevent the younger generations from doing the same.  I will respect the decisions Thailand makes, but I hope they are ready for the loss of tourism if they go to far with this crackdown on fun. I don't think they have a clue how much money in prostitution is poured into their economy. They may drag it back to the 60's.

[pegman]

1 hour ago, Golden Triangle said:

I spoke to an owner of a place in Jomtien this afternoon, he told me that any plans to bulldoze the ocean side of Walking Street have been well and truly quashed.

 

This info came from someone who allegedly owns a few properties on WS.

 

We will wait and see, Article 44 covers a multitude of sins, so lets see if the good General agrees. 

The General has a boss with a pulse now so all former bets are off.

[pegman]

1 hour ago, Basil B said:

 

and it seems a lot of people talk through their arse...

 

My thoughts are the currant administration are up to a challenge and are more than willing to take on the Mr Big's, so one day soon any thing over the beach will come down. 

They had a window and it closed a couple of months ago. 

[pegman]

10 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Gosh so u need walking street for your excitement?sounds miserable?

Hope u can still enjoy ur life when they upgrade the area and demolish the buildings without title deeds.

Those prayers to that nonexistent  supreme being of yours aren't working. Maybe try to get your marshmallow brian around a new crusade such as the slave trade in the thai fishing industry. 

[pegman]

5 hours ago, louse1953 said:

It is not part of Thailand for Thais.It is for the desperate people who think a few bikini girls and coloured lights is tourism.This can be done anywhere, as Soi Cowboy proves.

Just as any development can just as easily happen at the north end of Pattaya Beach. Nothing happens along that stretch of beach so unless you are on some morals crusade that should satisfy you.  

[marinediscoking]

There seems to a lot of communists on this topic. We are only talking about 1km of coastline out of approximately 7,000 that are in the kingdom, I guess it must go because that is 1km too much for many who have most likely recently moved in. 

 

I have had two businesses on that side of walking street and one on the other side over years. I know some of the land owners and from what they have told me, many of chanotes came from fisherman who first got them way before pattaya was even a city. So shut up about saying they are illegal. The first hotel in Pattaya was on that side almost opposite Tony's disco and it was sad day when it closed, a piece of history lost.

 

One land owner I know is from a navy family, anther is the marine group  who's family who were here long before 1970's has the biggest lot on that side,  and some other people who lease theirs out, and also run different various business around town who I call entrepreneurs not mafia types.

 

The ones who have caused the problems on that side are the ones who keep illegally building further out over the water making it worse for the others. One is a restaurant towards the end that comes to mind and a club starting with the letter i 

You people should not be in Thailand if you are bothered that side of walking street. Do us all a favor and move to Hua Hin or some other place, there are enough pricks here already.

Edited December 17, 2016 by marinediscoking

[SiSePuede419]

19 hours ago, Henricus said:

Walking Street about 1974

Life was simpler back then.  All you needed was a bag of mushrooms or peyote, a lid of weed, a bottle of that wine that has a basket around it that you can use to make a classy candle holder after the wine is gone, a waterbed and a lava lamp.

 

We made our own fun back then ?

[lvr181]

On 12/16/2016 at 10:35 PM, fforest1 said:

'Walking Street property owners again have successfully thwarted '

 

What does this title imply? That the property owners are a greedy nasty lot that

are standing the way of some glorious new development?

 

Walking street put Pattaya on the map and is Pattayas #1 tourist attraction..

 

Every business in Pattaya profits directly or indirectly from Walking Street..from the noodle stand to the Hilton to dental offices to 7-11s...

Every one with a business or job in Pattaya should stand behind the Walking street property owners to stop any tear down...

 

Every one should take a good long look at how much land would be gained from a tear down..There would be one small narrow stretch of land and a bit more beach and that is it...There will be NO park,because there is

no land for a park,or any other glorious development...

 

Walking street is what it is...Its for sure different from where the tourist come from...Thats why the tourist travel, to see some thing different.

Thats why they have all flocked to see Walking street for almost

50 years....

 

Man....All people involved need think this thing through with a little critical thinking.... 

 

 

 

And the first move should be to meaningfully prosecute those who issued the "permits" for the buildings originally. Not just the clerk who signed off on it but also his/her superiors all the way to the top!

Will it happen - as much chance as pigs flying.

[DefaultName]

There are many beaches and whatever they did to Walking Street, it would only ever be a third rate beach.  There is only one Walking Street though.  Anyone in marketing could tell them what to do. 

[thailand49]

Not really a unreasonable request from the owners?  If you were one of them?

They have requested as noted in this article if correct since 1988?  when the topic was raised basically provide documents proving those who own the property don't. 

Somehow someway if the property were purchased by the current owner were illegal someone in government knew about this and did nothing and the sales continued. Sure this is Thailand, but many laws are the same everywhere and if the owner have been paying taxes on the property for all these years to the so call same government. The property is theirs legal or not like Homesteading?

Don't think a moving of a few boats at the other end by the Army is going to do the same thing here. The Army is just a puppet and guess who is paying their so call bonus?

[Phuketboy]

"a battle that has been raging for 20 years"  Doesn't sound like they are in a rush to do anything, then again, Thai time sabai sabai

 

[Destiny1990]

Based on the news  article its clearly says most owners do not have the correct title deeds suppose to be issued for these properties and that's why this problem is there.

[pegman]

8 hours ago, DefaultName said:

There are many beaches and whatever they did to Walking Street, it would only ever be a third rate beach.  There is only one Walking Street though.  Anyone in marketing could tell them what to do. 

I've lived in Jomtien the last 3 years and can't tell you how many tourists on the songthauw  into Pattaya have asked me where to get off for Walking Street.  Pattaya Beach is pathetic and the reason all the Thais go to Jomtien Beach with their families.