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I work on a boat and stay in Thailand when not at work which is like 4-6 months a year.

I have had this ongoing issue of not having an address. It is an issue with my tax residency in Australia and seems to cause me a problem about every week. Just recently I am fighting with my aussie bank as they won't let me take my money out and close my account without giving them an address. I have been working towards marrying my Thai girlfriend and getting the ME O visa etc.

Was considering purchasing a cheap condo but have canned that idea and now thinking renting a condo which will give me a rental agreement document and utility bill evidence to show. It is annoying as I won't be in the condo 6-8 months of the year but if condo is 7000pm and I can sometimes spend 35 or 40k a month on hotels then it doesn't matter. 

My question here is will having this mostly empty rental cause me any issues in future.

Specifically if I apply for a Thai residence certificate to renew my Thai licence or show the banks, taxman or any other institutions?

Will I be able to do a O visa extension based on marriage with this address. I believe I need a tabian baan. Can I get that with my rental contract or is that just for owners? Does this mean I would need copies of owners tabian baan for extensions or something?

Other issue is that my (soon to be) wife is on the tabian baan of her aunties and her american husbands house although she doesn't live there. For the extension do we need to be on the same tabian baan and living together there? I heard immigration come to check.

She has said she could speak to her aunt about getting me on that tabian baan as well but that seems dodgy to me 2 thai/western couples on the same house book. 

So should my wife change her thing to my rented condo?

Combined with my tax issues, thai bank issues, organising marriage and subsequent visas all this stuff is starting to get a bit overwhelming. I have just a week or so left in the kingdom and have been looking at some decent condos but want to make sure it won't cause me issues down the track before I sign a 1 year lease. Need to get it sorted before I go back to work as next leave I want to come through Laos and get the Non O for marriage for which I will need to write an address down.

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You don't need a tambien ban for anything. You cannot be listed in a blue house book.You can only get a yellow house book if the holder of the a blue house book allows it.

Your fiancee does not need one for where you are living.for you to get an extension after you get married.

A rental agreement with a copies of the the owners house book attached would serve as proof of residence at immigration.

Where is your girlfriend living now? She could do a statement you are living with her that could be used with a rental agreement for you to use as proof residence.

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I am an American and I live in Bangkok.

I do not live in a Condo but I DO have a 3 month rental contract in a serviced residence here in Bangkok.

I recieve a monthly government pension and I have been able over a 3 year period to get the Thai address here in my residence changed to my legal mailing address here in Thailand,

My government pension has been changed since September 2014 and the govenment now sends my pension monthly to my Bangkok Bank account by direct deposit from the U.S.

It was a tough fight, but i eventualy got them to recognise me as a resident of Thailand not as living in the U.S.

Keep trying, it can be done if you perservere.

The rules in Autralia may be different of course.

 

 

 

 

 

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My gf lives in accommodation provided to her dirt cheap through her work. 

I just reread the extension requirements... I just need her tabiaan baan right? It wont matter that she is on there with the aunt and her US boyfriend?

Also reading this: "photos of the house with the applicant and wife in all rooms of the house and some photos takes outside the front door showing the house/flat number" 

???

Posted
2 minutes ago, sikishrory said:

My gf lives in accommodation provided to her dirt cheap through her work. 

I just reread the extension requirements... I just need her tabiaan baan right? It wont matter that she is on there with the aunt and her US boyfriend?

Also reading this: "photos of the house with the applicant and wife in all rooms of the house and some photos takes outside the front door showing the house/flat number" 

???

Perhaps you should rent some other low cost place for her to stay so you can use it as your address.

Her tambien ban registry that she has now is enough.

Info that you quoted is little overboard for what is actually required. With the house number shown in one of the photos that is needed.

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11 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Perhaps you should rent some other low cost place for her to stay so you can use it as your address.

Her tambien ban registry that she has now is enough.

Info that you quoted is little overboard for what is actually required. With the house number shown in one of the photos that is needed.

I have thought of that but I don't particularly wanna live in satthahip when all the malls and stuff are in Pattaya. She seems to insist I wouldnt like it there and I don't doubt it. 

From what your saying it looks like we dont need to prove we live together for this extension anyway.

So I should just rent a condo as planned but ask for a copy of owners tabian baan when signing the lease. Probably easier to get before signing rather than after... For the purposes of the residence certificate.

Simple as that right?

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3 minutes ago, sikishrory said:

I have thought of that but I don't particularly wanna live in satthahip when all the malls and stuff are in Pattaya. She seems to insist I wouldnt like it there and I don't doubt it. 

From what your saying it looks like we dont need to prove we live together for this extension anyway.

So I should just rent a condo as planned but ask for a copy of owners tabian baan when signing the lease. Probably easier to get before signing rather than after... For the purposes of the residence certificate.

Simple as that right?

You do have to show that you have a residence together to get the extension. That is what the photos are for but you will not need as many as the info you posted said, There is also a home visit for the first extension. You might find it best to get a multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage that allow unlimited 90 day entries for a year.

If you decide to rent a condo you certainly should insist upon a copy of the house book and ID card before signing the agreement,

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11 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You do have to show that you have a residence together to get the extension. That is what the photos are for but you will not need as many as the info you posted said, There is also a home visit for the first extension. You might find it best to get a multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage that allow unlimited 90 day entries for a year.

If you decide to rent a condo you certainly should insist upon a copy of the house book and ID card before signing the agreement,

Sorry I meant i need the residence for other things. Not extension. 

But i am still unsure, are we supposed to be appearing to live together at the place of her tabian baan? In other words all married couples are required to live together

Posted
13 minutes ago, sikishrory said:

But i am still unsure, are we supposed to be appearing to live together at the place of her tabian baan?

No you don't. You can live together anywhere. You don't have to stay at the same place together all the time.

You still need  proof of residence to get a certificate of residence. That is what the renal agreement is for.

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Looking at this thread 

it seems as though the visit is to see that you are infact living together etc. (I presume at the place of her tabiaan baan).

There is one guy in the thread that mentions just getting 2 witness forms from the 2 places where he and she live. She wouldn't be able to do that anyway as she doesn't live there.

Perhaps honesty is the best policy here. Explaining the situation to them that we don't live together etc.

Yea I could get back to back O visas I guess as you suggest but would rather get extension as I was reading a thread this morning of another guy getting grief for doing back to back o visas. Aside from that I think extension is cheaper and can be done in thailand.

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44 minutes ago, sikishrory said:

(I presume at the place of her tabiaan baan).

Again I must say no.

My wife has a house book for a house we own in  a small village. Living in a rental house here in the city now and use the address for it when I do my extensions since that is where we are staying most of the time.

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I have just gone through three month of backwards and forwards with my bank in Jersey. They were asking for proof of I.D. and proof of address or they would shutdown my bank account. As the utility bills are in the name of the house owner and I rent the house I couldn't provide utility bills. After a lot of email correspondence it was agreed that the best way forward was to ask a lawyer to visit me at my home and then he could produce a document in English to certify my address and my I.D. 

This was duly done and stamped and the documents, my I.D. and address and the lawyers I.D etc. were sent via DHL to the bank. One month  later I had an email from the bank saying that they were unable to independently verify that the lawyer I used was qualified to certify documents and they could not accept the documents I had sent them.

I then found another law firm who have a fully qualified and certified lawyer for document certification (Notarial Services Attorney). Prior to using the new lawyer I passed his details onto the bank and they eventually replied that they had been able to verify the lawyers qualifications with the Thai Embassy in London and that I could use him for my required documentation certification.

Job done but it took a while and was a pain but it was the only way I could satisfy the banks requirements.

The above is what I had to do to satisfy my banks requirements. Now I know what to do the next time will be a lot easier and cheaper.

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Posted

The bank thing isn't so much of an issue for me as it was a dormant account with only $50 in it. However need it closed for other reasons. That is handy to know though. 

Posted
3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

"Just recently I am fighting with my aussie bank as they won't let me take my money out and close my account without giving them an address"

Give them the address of your girlfriend.

Several years ago I lived in Sydney and had done for many years. Out of the blue my bank closed my account and sent me a letter saying they closed it due to inactivity. Well 2 days before that I had borrowed some money and it was sent to this bank. I created merry hell as it took me several weeks to get my hands on the borrowed money which I was paying interest on. I ended up writing to the Banking Industry Ombudsman. Within a few days the banks area manager came to my work to apologise and he gave me a magnum of champaign. I went for damages and the Ombudsman awarded me $400 for my inconvenience. Perhaps you should contact the Banking Industry Ombudsman in the state your bank is in Aussie.

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As far as Oz is concerned for taxation purpose that rented condo will be sufficient , same as bank will accept your overseas address , to make the banks happy,  I give residential as Thai and postal as Oz,  I then arrange and get any mail forwarded on.

Posted

Question --- I'm getting ready to retire after working 35+ years and move to LOS.  I got airline quotes from ANA yesterday on flights from the USA to Thailand and I can save about $325 USD if I my reservation is booked only "one-way".

 

Any concerns re: retirement extension,...?

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Ended up getting a brand new condo in naklua for 7000 a month. 

1 month here in fairly cheap hotels is equal to 5 months of renting this. It helps with a lot of other things too.

My only concern now is that I didn't have it a little bit earlier as just a few days ago I got  prenup and my letter from embassy so I can marry notarised with an Aussie address.

Changing addresses is a part of life though so I suppose I can tidy that up next holidays.

Owner was japanese but they insisted I would be able to some how get a copy of the owners tabian baan. 

 

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Im preparing all the docs for the O visa today. Couple of questions... our marriage cert has her old name on it before taking on my surname. So should I take some docs to explain this. Perhaps copy of old id card or the actual name change documents we received when we were married?

Other thing. Just wanna check I got this right as I don't wanna get to savannakhet and realise I am missing something and need to do the trip again.

- 2 passport photos. 1 for laos visa and 1 for O visa

- no financial proof but i may as well take a bunch of statemnts and stuff anyway as I can fullfill the requirement

- copys of only my marriage cert and kor ror 2 and not hers. Having the original at hand but not showing unless they ask

- application form (is it tm87?)

- copy of her thai id front and back on 1 page

- copy of her tabian baan.

I have read these last 2 need to be signed and dated by her

I also just read something which I suspect is rubbish.. that only the single entry o visa can be extended for a year.

I am hoping to get a ME O then extend it for a year if the timing works for me at the time. Otherwise will get follow up with O visa as above again.

 

Getting there slowly...

Thanks

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The marriage always has the wife's maiden name on it. You could take the name change document with you in case they asked for it.

If you are going the to Savannakhet for the multiple entry non-o you will not need any financial proof.

Singed copies of her ID card (both sides) and her tambien ban  (first page and page she is shown on).

The TM87 form is to apply for a visa at immigration. At Savannakhet you would use this form: Savannakhet 2501-01-31.PDF

You can apply for the extension during the last 30 days of any of the 90 day entries from your visa. It does not have to be a single entry visa.

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