rooster59 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Father of Louvre attacker says son is not a terrorist By Seham Eloraby Reda Abdullah al-Hamamy, the father of Abdullah Reda al-Hamamy who is suspected of attacking a soldier in Paris' Louvre museum, speaks during an interview with Reuters in Daqahliya, Egypt, February 4, 2017. REUTERS/Mohamed Abd El Ghany CAIRO (Reuters) - The father of the machete-wielding man who was shot by a guard as he tried to enter Paris's Louvre museum said on Saturday his son was not an Islamist and the French were only accusing him of terrorism to excuse the brutality used to stop him. Abdullah Reda al-Hamamy, an Egyptian, was shot several times after attacking soldiers outside the museum crying "Allahu Akbar" on Friday, in what President Francois Hollande called a terrorist attack. Al-Hamamy was initially feared to be close to death but doctors at the hospital where he is being treated no longer consider his life in danger, the Paris prosecutor's office said on Saturday. Paint spray cans - but no explosives - were found in his back pack. Back in Egypt, Hamamy's father, Reda Al Refaai, said he had learned of his son's case from Facebook and was still not aware of his fate. “Is he alive? Is he dead? Was it really him?" he asked Reuters. "For them to say in the end that he is a terrorist is nonsense ... This is a cover up so they don’t have to apologise or justify the acts of this soldier who used brute force with a poor young man of 29." Al-Hamamy's uncle, Riyad al- Refaai, said: "I find it incomprehensible that a young man on his way to commit a terrorist act only has a knife with him. If you tell me he had a gun, a rifle, then yes, I’d believe you, but I don’t know ... All we want is the truth," he said. Al Refaai said he son worked in Sharja in the United Arab Emirates and was on a business trip to Paris for a week. French authorities say al-Hamamy arrived in France on Jan. 26 after obtaining a tourist visa in Dubai. -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 yup he's just a poor misunderstood boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 No,years ago the lad would have joined the resistance,died for France.Isnt it strange how we foreget what invaders are,and now let them in n feed emSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Sure, and he was going to do a spot of sugar cane cutting with his machetes whilst on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Of course he was not a terrorist ,he was just using his machete to cut up his dinner ,and just waved it at a soldier to say hello . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 jail his <deleted> liar of father (think of something)inciting terorism for a start, so perhaps his son was a butcher who forgot to leave his knife at home, pull the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Oh my son is as pure as a virgin....a common expression used too often....jail the terrorist and deport him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 machete = lethal weapon met with lethal force, if he or his relatives were expecting some other outcome then they really need a reality check and do some deep thinking He is very lucky he survived - someone slipped up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Appropriate force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen087 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 The man's father is in denial or simply cannot accept not defending his son. To the objective observer the French Police acted in the only way possible to neutralize the threat. The only other explanation is the father was aware and his response is part of a planned narrative. Sad all the way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ramen087 said: The man's father is in denial or simply cannot accept not defending his son. To the objective observer the French Police acted in the only way possible to neutralize the threat. The only other explanation is the father was aware and his response is part of a planned narrative. Sad all the way around. Well denial is in Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Father is upset about how the nasty soldier treated his son. I'm upset he just didn't double tap the waste of oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Sounds like he was planning to ruin some priceless WESTERN works of art with spray paint. How wonderful he was caught and shot. Maybe he would have stabbed someone as well. Daddy sounds like a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, alex8912 said: Sounds like he was planning to ruin some priceless WESTERN works of art with spray paint. How wonderful he was caught and shot. Maybe he would have stabbed someone as well. Daddy sounds like a loser. I missed the bit about spray paint! Yes, pretty obvious main intent was to destroy fine artworks. What is the problem with these peasants? We revere ancient Egyptian art works. I guess they predate mohammed and are therefore worthless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 55 minutes ago, alex8912 said: Sounds like he was planning to ruin some priceless WESTERN works of art with spray paint. How wonderful he was caught and shot. Maybe he would have stabbed someone as well. Daddy sounds like a loser. Think you're right Alex. And the machete was to protect himself and fight off people who tried to stop him. That would have been a massive propaganda coup and got massive media coverage. Glad they stopped him. His dad and uncle are just being silly. But denying everything and hoping you'll get away with it is fashionable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Grouse said: I missed the bit about spray paint! Yes, pretty obvious main intent was to destroy fine artworks. What is the problem with these peasants? We revere ancient Egyptian art works. I guess they predate mohammed and are therefore worthless? All about their hatred for Western civilization and culture. Look how they destroy antiquities when they get the chance. They want anything that isn't part of Islam culture removing from the face of the earth. Besides which the publicity for such an attack would be phenomenal. Edited February 5, 2017 by Baerboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 The opinion of a father about his son is hardly objective, let alone news worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgriz Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Did his father explain why his dindu nuffin son was carrying around a machete in Paris? Is there a lot of jungle to navigate in the city? But hey, let's open the floodgates and let more of these fine young men in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, bkkgriz said: Did his father explain why his dindu nuffin son was carrying around a machete in Paris? Is there a lot of jungle to navigate in the city? But hey, let's open the floodgates and let more of these fine young men in. I understood it was a machete in each hand. Perhaps he's a big fan of Tomb Raider or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgriz Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just now, Chicog said: I understood it was a machete in each hand. Perhaps he's a big fan of Tomb Raider or something. Two? Even better. I think you are on to something. Possible Egyptian remake of the movie. Shot the star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Baerboxer said: All about their hatred for Western civilization and culture. Look how they destroy antiquities when they get the chance. They want anything that isn't part of Islam culture removing from the face of the earth. Besides which the publicity for such an attack would be phenomenal. Total BS. Having lived and worked in Muslim Countries, I can tell you from first hand experience that the vast majority of Muslims respect and preserve antiquities. Only the ignorant that want to promote hatred would say otherwise. Egypt has preserved the pyramids and ancient buildings. Libya has the greatest examples of Roman cities and amphitheaters outside of Rome. Iraq has many sites from ancient Babylon. Only a few extremists such as ISIS and Al Qaeda destroy ancient antiquities and it is perpetrated against the majority of peaceful Muslims. The Western civilization merely looted their ancient antiquities in the past and even now are buying antiquities looted by ISIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Total BS. Having lived and worked in Muslim Countries, I can tell you from first hand experience that the vast majority of Muslims respect and preserve antiquities. Only the ignorant that want to promote hatred would say otherwise. Egypt has preserved the pyramids and ancient buildings. Libya has the greatest examples of Roman cities and amphitheaters outside of Rome. Iraq has many sites from ancient Babylon. Only a few extremists such as ISIS and Al Qaeda destroy ancient antiquities and it is perpetrated against the majority of peaceful Muslims. The Western civilization merely looted their ancient antiquities in the past and even now are buying antiquities looted by ISIS.You have proof westerners are buying them ?Sent from my ASUS_T00J using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 You have proof westerners are buying them ?Sent from my ASUS_T00J using TapatalkThat has been widely reported. sent using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 That has been widely reported. sent using TapatalkWhere,link pleaseSent from my ASUS_T00J using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Estrada said: Total BS. Having lived and worked in Muslim Countries, I can tell you from first hand experience that the vast majority of Muslims respect and preserve antiquities. Only the ignorant that want to promote hatred would say otherwise. Egypt has preserved the pyramids and ancient buildings. Libya has the greatest examples of Roman cities and amphitheaters outside of Rome. Iraq has many sites from ancient Babylon. Only a few extremists such as ISIS and Al Qaeda destroy ancient antiquities and it is perpetrated against the majority of peaceful Muslims. The Western civilization merely looted their ancient antiquities in the past and even now are buying antiquities looted by ISIS. The 'only a few extremists' line is always wheeled out after each and every terrorist attack. The bottom line is that those who utter this mantra would not have the soldiers in place to defend society against this oh-so-small group of individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flustered Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Estrada said: Only a few extremists such as ISIS and Al Qaeda destroy ancient antiquities and it is perpetrated against the majority of peaceful Muslims. Only a few (hundred thousand) extremists.... Do you not remember when the Taliban destroyed those magnificent Buddha statues in Afghanistan in 2001. Then Isis destroyed Syrian and Iraqi antiquities, Islam prescribes that idols should be destroyed and smashed. Islam demands the destruction of idols. This is well documented. Peaceful Islam is a myth. Islam demands submission. Islam is a religion of violence against the non believer. Islam cannot integrate with other religions and cultures, it must dominate and subdue by force. No Muslim female can marry a non Muslim and a Muslim male can only marry a Muslim female or a Person of the Book as decreed in the Quran. Hardly integration into other countries culture, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 If he had done that in Egypt he would be dead, and his father and relatives would be talking to the police ... during bouts of waterboarding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, i claudius said: You have proof westerners are buying them ? Sent from my ASUS_T00J using Tapatalk I suppose you will come back and ask for copy of receipts. However... https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/feb/26/western-art-funding-terrorism-isis-middle-east Edited February 5, 2017 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Now being reported by media outlets, the attacker tweeted pro ISIS comments just hours before the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthesoi Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 ISIS under the bed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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