rooster59 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Trump to Iran's Rouhani: Better be careful By Ayesha Rascoe Iran's President Hassan Rouhani attends a meeting during the Asia Cooperation Dialogue (ACD) summit at the Foreign Ministry in Bangkok, Thailand, October 10, 2016. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday that Iran President Hassan Rouhani "better be careful" after Rouhani was quoted as saying that anyone who speaks to Iranians with threats would regret it. Trump was asked in a brief appearance in the press cabin aboard Air Force One about Rouhani's reported remarks to a rally in Tehran to celebrate the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution. Rouhani was quoted in media reports as saying Iran had shown in the 38 years since the revolution that "it will make anyone who speaks to Iranians with the language of threats regret it." "He better be careful," Trump said. Trump on Feb. 2 put Iran "on notice" over charges that Tehran violated a nuclear deal with the West by test-firing a ballistic missile, taking an aggressive posture toward Iran that could raise tensions in the region. Trump made the comments about Rouhani while flying on the presidential jet carrying him and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe for a weekend at Trump's Mar-a-Lago retreat in Palm Beach, Florida. -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Kinda hard to argue with Trump on this one. It gets old listening to these maniacal dictators issuing empty threats all the time. Especially they are the ones causing most of the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, craigt3365 said: Kinda hard to argue with Trump on this one. It gets old listening to these maniacal dictators issuing empty threats all the time. Especially they are the ones causing most of the problems. Except, of course, that he's not a dictator. He was elected. Edited February 11, 2017 by ilostmypassword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: Except, of course, that he's not a dictator. He was elected. http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2016/Iran-election-2016-infographic/ Quote This is not a democratic election. Candidates are vetted and often critics or reformers do not make the cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2016/Iran-election-2016-infographic/ Rouhani was definitely not the candidate of the ruling mullahs. His election was seen as a rejection of them. Three days before the presidential election, Iranian moderates and reformists coalesced behind Hassan Rouhani; Including Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, Mohammad Khatami and Molavi Abdul Hamid. This Consensus happened after the withdrawal of the only reformist candidate Mohammad Reza Aref. Aref withdrew on the advice of Mohammad Khatami so the electorate would all stand behind Rouhani, so there wouldn't be a split in the vote between the two and to greatly limit the chance of a conservative victory. This showed that the moderates and reformists had united together and had thrown all their support behind Rouhani, which the conservatives failed to do with a single conservative candidate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akbar_Hashemi_Rafsanjani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: Kinda hard to argue with Trump on this one. It gets old listening to these maniacal dictators issuing empty threats all the time. Especially they are the ones causing most of the problems. Yes, and which problems are Iran causing at the moment then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Chicog said: Yes, and which problems are Iran causing at the moment then? None. They're just minding their own business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chicog said: Yes, and which problems are Iran causing at the moment then? Many. One of the bigger ones is Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: Many. One of the bigger ones is Syria. Yes, without Iran the Syrian problem would be solved. Isis or something similar would be governing. Backed by the Gulf States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I am trying to keep an open mind about this guy. I was hoping he might have some constructive proposals for the economy. But, he is so bogged down with his immigration extremism, and refuses to acknowledge that extreme vetting has been in place since 9/11. All of the people who got visas and green cards in the past decade were extremely vetted. So, there was no risk in letting them in. He could have established the program, allowed all existing visa and green card holders in, but denied any new applicants, and few would have complained. The fascinating thing about the megalomaniac, is that he seems to enjoy digging his own holes. He started a war with the media. He created this extreme immigration program, etc. He seems to love a battle. Hope he does not start a major war. Lord Bannon seems to be itching for a war with Iran. I think they would find Iran to be a far worse foe than Iraq, as they have very deep pockets, and it could very well turn into a 40 year war, costing the treasury tens of trillions of dollars, and possibly even bankrupting the United States, leading to major terror attacks on US soil, and destabilizing the planet. My guess is that it would lead to his impeachment. But, I see that coming anyway. I seriously doubt, especially after this ridiculous Nordstrom scandal, that this man will last four years. He will either be impeached, resign, or have an aneurysm. As far as the immigration debate goes at least half of the judges that are ruling against Trump, were appointed by Republicans. He is continuing with his Orwellian Alternative facts campaign. Anytime he does not like what happens, or a decision that is made, or a news account, or anything else, it instantly becomes alternative facts. He simply cannot fathom the possibility that it is happening for a good or logical reason. It is an attack against him personally, if it is not in lock step with his wishes. He truly has the mindset of an adolescent, who has always gotten his way. He is ill equipped for his present position, and is not a good give and take sort. Not sure how he is going to be able to negotiate with our allies, much less our enemies, with this attitude of entitlement and his inability to ever express any humility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 He will need the green light from vlad before he can get heavy with iran. so just a bit of locker room talk….just grabbing the mad mullah by the p&%$y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 54 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: Kinda hard to argue with Trump on this one. It gets old listening to these maniacal dictators issuing empty threats all the time. Especially they are the ones causing most of the problems. But this thread is about Iran and NOT the POTUS issuing empty threats all the time. Trump still thinks that being POTUS is like running his business where whatever he says or wants done will be done or somebody will get fired. Trump is the one who started threatening Iran so they quite naturally have responded by basically telling Trump to go away. How many invasions has Iran done to other countries over say the past 25 years and how many countries has the USA invaded? Perhaps Trump should take some geography lessons to find out where so much oil that is used in the world actually comes from, to which countries of the world is it shipped to, how many of those countries are allies of the USA and how many will support the USA if it attacks and invades Iran? MOST of the oil from the Arab Gulf countries is produced by the USA allies such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the UAE, Iraq and they will not be happy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Hormuz The straits of Hormuz (quote from Wikipedia) " provides the only sea passage from the Persian Gulf to the open ocean and is one of the world's most strategically important choke points. On the north coast lies Iran, and on the south coast the United Arab Emirates and Musandam, an exclave of Oman. At its narrowest, the strait has a width of 29 nautical miles (54 km).[1] About 20% of the world's petroleum (about 35% of the petroleum traded by sea) passes through the strait, making it a highly important strategic location for international trade.[1]". To be honest Trump and his "advisors" frighten the sh1t out of me. He seems to want and believe that HE can control the world and pick wars with countries whenever and wherever HE wants and never lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: He will need the green light from vlad before he can get heavy with iran. so just a bit of locker room talk….just grabbing the mad mullah by the p&%$y May be time to move on from the 'mad Mullah' tag, currently they do come across as long term strategists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, ilostmypassword said: Except, of course, that he's not a dictator. He was elected. Elected - just not democratically. Wonder if he scores as high a % as the nut in NK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, billd766 said: But this thread is about Iran and NOT the POTUS issuing empty threats all the time. Trump still thinks that being POTUS is like running his business where whatever he says or wants done will be done or somebody will get fired. Trump is the one who started threatening Iran so they quite naturally have responded by basically telling Trump to go away. How many invasions has Iran done to other countries over say the past 25 years and how many countries has the USA invaded? Perhaps Trump should take some geography lessons to find out where so much oil that is used in the world actually comes from, to which countries of the world is it shipped to, how many of those countries are allies of the USA and how many will support the USA if it attacks and invades Iran? MOST of the oil from the Arab Gulf countries is produced by the USA allies such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the UAE, Iraq and they will not be happy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Hormuz The straits of Hormuz (quote from Wikipedia) " provides the only sea passage from the Persian Gulf to the open ocean and is one of the world's most strategically important choke points. On the north coast lies Iran, and on the south coast the United Arab Emirates and Musandam, an exclave of Oman. At its narrowest, the strait has a width of 29 nautical miles (54 km).[1] About 20% of the world's petroleum (about 35% of the petroleum traded by sea) passes through the strait, making it a highly important strategic location for international trade.[1]". To be honest Trump and his "advisors" frighten the sh1t out of me. He seems to want and believe that HE can control the world and pick wars with countries whenever and wherever HE wants and never lose. Do you really think the Iranians are daft enough to fight a war against the US, their ME allies in the GCC, Israel and probably most of Europe who'd pitch in to keep the sea lanes clear? As with all oppressive regimes, they know once their resources are diverted from keeping most of the population subdued the cork can pop out of the bottle. In the past they got away with mouthing off and saber rattling. New Sheriff in town. Let's hope they learn quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Do you really think the Iranians are daft enough to fight a war against the US, their ME allies in the GCC, Israel and probably most of Europe who'd pitch in to keep the sea lanes clear? As with all oppressive regimes, they know once their resources are diverted from keeping most of the population subdued the cork can pop out of the bottle. In the past they got away with mouthing off and saber rattling. New Sheriff in town. Let's hope they learn quick. Now it is the POTUS who is mouthing off and sabre rattling. The fight would be between the USA and Iran. Any US allies including far away Japan would be doing their best to stop Trump and the USA. Trump is the person who started this and not Iran. HE is the one doing all the threatening and Iran is just responding in kind. If it is possible to keep that idiot Bannon quiet this will all go away. Alternatively give Bannon a rifle and make sure that he is the first person on the beach for an hour or so. Just about every was over the last 1,000 or so years has been started by a king, dictator or politician and has been ended by the military of one side or the other at the cost of millions of soldiers lives but very few politicians lives. It should be the other way around. Edited February 11, 2017 by billd766 Added extra text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Rouhani to Trump after the first rocket test and after Trump's warning. Hey Donald here is another one in case you did not like the first one go f....y...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1012 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Chicog said: Yes, and which problems are Iran causing at the moment then? They breathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Why quoting a biased sunni news media if the OP is about shia muslims ?Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 The first thing Trump needs to do is cut off their supply of American flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, craigt3365 said: Kinda hard to argue with Trump on this one. It gets old listening to these maniacal dictators issuing empty threats all the time. Especially they are the ones causing most of the problems. It's this latest Maniacal dictator issuing empty threats all the time while being the one that is causing so many problems that so many people are worried about now. Just this time he isn't from the middle east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Why quoting a biased sunni news media if the OP is about shia muslims ? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect And then posting it on a Christian/Protestant/Buddhist/agnostic forum (TVF). What nerve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Many. One of the bigger ones is Syria.It's rather the opposite...Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, craigt3365 said: Kinda hard to argue with Trump on this one. It gets old listening to these maniacal dictators issuing empty threats all the time. Especially they are the ones causing most of the problems. Trump's only been in office a few weeks, and his threats have set a record for getting old fast. Amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Why would Trump, regardless of politics, want to destabilise a region further. He cannot solve these problems. No plan or policy. There isn't even a political positive in the outcome. Donald keeps doing this but has no capability to build, repair and engage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, optad said: Why would Trump, regardless of politics, want to destabilise a region further. He cannot solve these problems. No plan or policy. There isn't even a political positive in the outcome. Donald keeps doing this but has no capability to build, repair and engage. It didn't stop Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 And then posting it on a Christian/Protestant/Buddhist/agnostic forum (TVF). What nerve!Al Jazeera is in fact BBC Middle East media personnel hired by a sunni Qatari media mogul...Diplomatic exchanges between Sunni Qatar and Shia Iran are not really 'successful' for the last decades.Latest political leadership in Qatar was taken through a coup by the latest prince after his father went abroad...in case you want discuss real dictators...instead of question the non-religious content of TvF...Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, Thorgal said: Al Jazeera is in fact BBC Middle East media personnel hired by a sunni Qatari media mogul... Diplomatic exchanges between Sunni Qatar and Shia Iran are not really 'successful' for the last decades. Latest political leadership in Qatar was taken through a coup by the latest prince after his father went abroad...in case you want discuss real dictators...instead of question the non-religious content of TvF... Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect I understand the differences. I lived and worked in Iran. However, I have no idea of the point you're trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, rijb said: It didn't stop Bush. No you are right. God bless America, its wisdom and blind allies. -- So many national reports on intel re that, the 'lest we forget mantra' WWI and lives lost yet personal fidelity to the past is so loose it makes a mockery of US statesmanship when DT can saunter along and sucks other into his vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, ilostmypassword said: Yes, without Iran the Syrian problem would be solved. Isis or something similar would be governing. Backed by the Gulf States. The Gulf States don't back ISIS. Assad use to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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