webfact Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 New regulations 'to ensure' free emergency treatment By Chularat Saengpassa The Nation BANGKOK: -- The Public Health Ministry has again pledged to ensure that people will receive free emergency medical services whenever they need them. But nobody is sure this promise will really apply to all cases across the country. The public, after all, has heard too often over the past five years how so many families struggle with massive medical bills after their beloved were rushed to hospitals. This is in spite of the fact the Public Health Ministry first unveiled the policy to give people the right to free emergency medical services in 2012. Last month, a woman paid more than Bt100,000 for emergency treatment given to her 84-year-old mother during the first three days of her treatment after the mother fell down and broke her bones. “At first, I called a state hospital for an ambulance but no one answered,” the woman’s daughter, Wimontip Charoenchuen-suwan, said. “So, I called a nearby private hospital that dispatched an ambulance to our home within 10 minutes. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30308048 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-03-06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Quote Public and private hospitals are required to provide emergency treatment for up to 72 hours after a patient is admitted without charge Emergency or not, private hospitals won't admit patients without capacity to pay. This i know myself. Edited March 5, 2017 by optad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If that´s the rules, then the hospital should pay the money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Pay as you go here, enter the park its 400baht enter the hospital its mmmmm lots, farang , well we will double ,no triple no quadruple it, Korp khun krub! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 No, it will be carried out or honored in many places as they will claim they never got the Memo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doremifasol Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 The Public Health Ministry first unveiled the policy to give people the right to free emergency medical services in 2012........... Then those that do not follow should be prosecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John wilfred edward Sharp Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 hours ago, optad said: Emergency or not, private hospitals won't admit patients without capacity to pay. This i know myself. Compulsory insurance it is not normal for anyone to pay for others lack of due care. you have money to pay your plane ticket pay also your insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, John wilfred edward Sharp said: Compulsory insurance it is not normal for anyone to pay for others lack of due care. you have money to pay your plane ticket pay also your insurance. Never said otherwise however that was not what the media release was about. Relevance has never trucked much posting fidelity when opportunity arises to bleat staple TV mantras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, John wilfred edward Sharp said: Compulsory insurance it is not normal for anyone to pay for others lack of due care. you have money to pay your plane ticket pay also your insurance. HaHa First post-------- you're going to be popular and go a long way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Do these policies cover foreigners or is it just for Thais? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuwadeeS Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 That could be so easy. Don't they see it? One Baht tax of everything unhealthy in one big pot only that. Alcohol, cigarettes, gasoline, sugar etc. It would renew everz minute enough money to set up all. There would even be enough money to pay the old poor generation a small pension to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 So free Emergency care has been available since 2012. Why has no one told the hospitals this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradoc1972 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 42 minutes ago, John wilfred edward Sharp said: Compulsory insurance it is not normal for anyone to pay for others lack of due care. you have money to pay your plane ticket pay also your insurance. It is, however, quite normal to share the burden, so an individual can get healthcare that would otherwise be beyond that person's means. WHich can quite easily happen and without any personal fault whatsoever. That is the general idea of an insurance, otherwise you needn't bother taking one out, just pay by yourself for everything. Some folks could do that, most cannot, so it's up to the state to make everyone share the costs. It's not the nanny-state either, it's a very basic level social coherence everyone should find himself consenting to. You don't need to be a socialist to do that. Seen what is does to people, when the first thing someone in financial scrapes does is to stop paying insurance and then hope for the best, in the US haven't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 35 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: Do these policies cover foreigners or is it just for Thais? Its a good question but what do u think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 hours ago, ezzra said: No, it will be carried out or honored in many places as they will claim they never got the Memo..... And the patients who complain the loudest will be "transferred to inactive posts" (cremation grounds?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Why don't people think that private insurance is socialist? It is a redistribution of wealth. I have friends who don't believe Social Security or Medicare are socialist. Social Security even has the word social in its name. Yes, it would be nice to guarantee free care in an emergency. I would be willing to pay after the fact. What I am concerned about is becoming unconscious, the blue lights people pick me up and I arrive at the hospital minus my credit cards. I am too old for insurance in Thailand and am covered by a policy from my own country. But I have to pay first, then I get reimbursed. I am thinking of having my credit card number tattooed on my butt. In the States a hospital emergency room can not refuse you. Even just that would be nice and would work for me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 hours ago, John wilfred edward Sharp said: Compulsory insurance it is not normal for anyone to pay for others lack of due care. you have money to pay your plane ticket pay also your insurance. Just pop off back home and post next year when you have your next two weeks summer holiday . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 We are getting closer and closer today to the "no answer busy signal" way of life. Again the priorities are misplaced. Cancel another submarine and fix things its time to quit playing in the bathtub of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 hours ago, leeneeds said: Pay as you go here, enter the park its 400baht enter the hospital its mmmmm lots, farang , well we will double ,no triple no quaitdruple it, Korp khun krub! Sounds more like harangue the farang every day. More and more every day I feel like a cow sitting in a milking stall at milking time, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedoc Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 hours ago, John wilfred edward Sharp said: Compulsory insurance it is not normal for anyone to pay for others lack of due care. you have money to pay your plane ticket pay also your insurance. So what happens when someone runs into you. That is not lack of due care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradoc1972 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, elgenon said: Why don't people think that private insurance is socialist? It is a redistribution of wealth. I have friends who don't believe Social Security or Medicare are socialist. Social Security even has the word social in its name. Yes, it would be nice to guarantee free care in an emergency. I would be willing to pay after the fact. What I am concerned about is becoming unconscious, the blue lights people pick me up and I arrive at the hospital minus my credit cards. I am too old for insurance in Thailand and am covered by a policy from my own country. But I have to pay first, then I get reimbursed. I am thinking of having my credit card number tattooed on my butt. In the States a hospital emergency room can not refuse you. Even just that would be nice and would work for me.. Wasn't it the US where you had to have either your Medicaid card or what's it called or 150 $ in cash on your body to get picked up by an ambulance? Or is that info from days long gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, Saradoc1972 said: Wasn't it the US where you had to have either your Medicaid card or what's it called or 150 $ in cash on your body to get picked up by an ambulance? Or is that info from days long gone? As far as I know they have to admit you. I have never heard otherwise. Many years (days long gone) ago I broke my finger, I had no money and they fixed me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugarcane24 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, SuwadeeS said: That could be so easy. Don't they see it? One Baht tax of everything unhealthy in one big pot only that. Alcohol, cigarettes, gasoline, sugar etc. It would renew everz minute enough money to set up all. There would even be enough money to pay the old poor generation a small pension to survive. Thai who don't get a government pension are paid 600 Baht a month from the age of 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Well unfortunately she had to choose a private hospital due to no answer for ambulance but from what i've seen that wouldn't make much difference seeing that the ambulances are stuck in a grid lock most of the time. & as for private cover you would die worrying that they will pay because the world is all about insurance companies even having to disclose every non related condition to gain employment Now for the people who think foreign countries look after you NO THEY DON'T EXAMPLE - At least here you have a fall back system called the 30 bht Public Hospital NOW LET'S GO TO AUSTRALIA - Well their system is free if you DON'T WORK - but for people like myself who try & get the best paying job to earn more am slugged for this year $10,000 above my average of 40 perc Tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 One of the only things that a PM has ever done to benefit the people of this country, in it's entire history, was the passage of Universal health care by Thaksin. I am no fan of the man, but he passed it, and it should continue to be honored, despite how powerful the health care lobby is here, and despite how much corrupt the current senators are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinske46 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Please tell the Pattaya International Hospital. Had heart event when here on holiday in December 2015. They would not even take my pulse or BP until I paid 10,000 Baht on my Amex card. After that they moved like lightning! The final bill after an overnight stay and meds another 12,000. My insurance refused to pay out because I had an inconclusive heart investigation in 1977. I enjoyed being robbed so much I came back to Pattaya as an uninsurable retiree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, elgenon said: Why don't people think that private insurance is socialist? It is a redistribution of wealth. I have friends who don't believe Social Security or Medicare are socialist. Social Security even has the word social in its name. Yes, it would be nice to guarantee free care in an emergency. I would be willing to pay after the fact. What I am concerned about is becoming unconscious, the blue lights people pick me up and I arrive at the hospital minus my credit cards. I am too old for insurance in Thailand and am covered by a policy from my own country. But I have to pay first, then I get reimbursed. I am thinking of having my credit card number tattooed on my butt. In the States a hospital emergency room can not refuse you. Even just that would be nice and would work for me.. Then the ladyboys will have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 hours ago, biplanebluey said: HaHa First post-------- you're going to be popular and go a long way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do Thai residents need a plane ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 hours ago, John wilfred edward Sharp said: Compulsory insurance it is not normal for anyone to pay for others lack of due care. you have money to pay your plane ticket pay also your insurance. Welcome to the board. Please enlighten us as to how many pre existing conditions you have picked up over the years, and whether you have found a hospital that charges per injury rather than on ethnicity of patient... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 hours ago, John wilfred edward Sharp said: Compulsory insurance it is not normal for anyone to pay for others lack of due care. you have money to pay your plane ticket pay also your insurance. Judging by the tone of your first post, you'll do well on here. There are plenty of other goody-goody, "I'm alright Jack", unsympathetic types to keep you company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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