Dumbastheycome Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Interesting responses. However as usual maintain the self imposed illusion of what governance is about. I do not defend the legitimacy of a militarially imposed jurisdiction but rather point out the undeniable . It would appear that many prefer to support the unprincipled devolution of society unto criminal chaos yet complain ever so bitterly about the necessity mostly due to the curtailment of the chaos they have long taken advantage of ! Tuff excrement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: Interesting responses. However as usual maintain the self imposed illusion of what governance is about. I do not defend the legitimacy of a militarially imposed jurisdiction but rather point out the undeniable . It would appear that many prefer to support the unprincipled devolution of society unto criminal chaos yet complain ever so bitterly about the necessity mostly due to the curtailment of the chaos they have long taken advantage of ! Tuff excrement! Who are you talking about and do you have any supporting evidence that many prefer to support the unprincipled devolution of society unto criminal chaos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, baboon said: Who are you talking about and do you have any supporting evidence that many prefer to support the unprincipled devolution of society unto criminal chaos? My comment is my opinion mostly in reference to those who label/ignore anything positive the current regime has initiated yet in deference quote and quip the philisophical illusion that "democracy" as a principle is derived from the aspirations of those who manipulate the ignorant mass without reference to or appeal of opinion of them on anything other than based on deception. Individual crass aspiration need be tempered by consideration of the continuity of social order. I feel no compunction to provide specific evidence in support of my opinion . Shoot me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Dumbastheycome said: My comment is my opinion mostly in reference to those who label/ignore anything positive the current regime has initiated yet in deference quote and quip the philisophical illusion that "democracy" as a principle is derived from the aspirations of those who manipulate the ignorant mass without reference to or appeal of opinion of them on anything other than based on deception. Individual crass aspiration need be tempered by consideration of the continuity of social order. I feel no compunction to provide specific evidence in support of my opinion . Shoot me ! Apologies. I missed the "It would appear" part of your post. I don't agree with you, but that is your point of view and I am all for your right to express it whether I like it or not. I am also against any government who would seek to repress such opinions not to their liking and have you jailed or deported. Point conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 7 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: My comment is my opinion mostly in reference to those who label/ignore anything positive the current regime has initiated yet in deference quote and quip the philisophical illusion that "democracy" as a principle is derived from the aspirations of those who manipulate the ignorant mass without reference to or appeal of opinion of them on anything other than based on deception. Individual crass aspiration need be tempered by consideration of the continuity of social order. I feel no compunction to provide specific evidence in support of my opinion . Shoot me ! Polite tip.If you want to express an opinion try and avoid the long winded and stilted phrasing which I imagine you believe to be an academic style.Few people will have any clue what you're trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Or want to.[emoji91]Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: My comment is my opinion mostly in reference to those who label/ignore anything positive the current regime has initiated yet in deference quote and quip the philisophical illusion that "democracy" as a principle is derived from the aspirations of those who manipulate the ignorant mass without reference to or appeal of opinion of them on anything other than based on deception. Individual crass aspiration need be tempered by consideration of the continuity of social order. I feel no compunction to provide specific evidence in support of my opinion . Shoot me ! The continuity of social order is absolutely vital to any society and yet democracy can be a hindrance. as an example, mass immigration is needed by almost all Western countries if they are to maintain their social security systems (health care, pensions etc.) the Western adults don't produce enough children to keep the system going but the mob sweeps away all concerns and demands an end to it,politicians are only too happy to ignore the warnings that social science has been giving about this for for tens of years. What happens to society when in 20 years pensions are no longer payable because there aren't enough workers paying into the system, the NHS is already collapsing. I have read that the very rich are already preparing for the ensuing chaos by buying homes in New Zealand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4546543 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Forget the hyperbole. See I can use long winded words too. Thailand is controlled by the military. That is a fact. Thailand is the most peaceful in many, many years. Sure everyone, especially the civilian and former political scammers are not happy but who gives a rats about them. There is the most infrastructure development in my area I have seen in 10 years. Drains, swamps, roads and power poles are being renewed or replaced. The political situation does not affect me nor any farang. Get over your opinions and make the best of living here that you can, except most of the negative posters are based overseas. We Thai living farang can see through you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 12 hours ago, soalbundy said: The continuity of social order is absolutely vital to any society and yet democracy can be a hindrance. as an example, mass immigration is needed by almost all Western countries if they are to maintain their social security systems (health care, pensions etc.) the Western adults don't produce enough children to keep the system going but the mob sweeps away all concerns and demands an end to it,politicians are only too happy to ignore the warnings that social science has been giving about this for for tens of years. What happens to society when in 20 years pensions are no longer payable because there aren't enough workers paying into the system, the NHS is already collapsing. I have read that the very rich are already preparing for the ensuing chaos by buying homes in New Zealand. You are probably correct about almost all you state. To maintain a top heavy system as is applied does indeed require reductions in mass social support. But with a little research I am left confused as to why the very rich would be investing in New Zealand domestic property when it is priced disproportiatly high relative to domestic disposable incomes. Or is that perhaps a confusion with the fact it has one of if not the highest Central Bank rates in the world? Or is that the cause of it? The very rich may avoid some aspects of chaos in doing such but will likely be prepared to suffer the isolation . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 14 hours ago, jayboy said: Polite tip.If you want to express an opinion try and avoid the long winded and stilted phrasing which I imagine you believe to be an academic style.Few people will have any clue what you're trying to say. I make no apology for what you term long winded and stilted. If it bothers you then ignore my comments entirely. I have no cartoonist capacity to make it easy for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4546543 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: I make no apology for what you term long winded and stilted. If it bothers you then ignore my comments entirely. I have no cartoonist capacity to make it easy for some people. Trust me, a lot of us will choose not to read the total crap that you spew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, spiderorchid said: Trust me, a lot of us will choose not to read the total crap that you spew As they may choose. I shall continue to read and comment without direct insult. What i find strange is that despite perhaps a different approach I agree with much of your viewpoint. Such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4546543 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Dumbastheycome said: As they may choose. I shall continue to read and comment without direct insult. What i find strange is that despite perhaps a different approach I agree with much of your viewpoint. Such is life. And I shall attempt to moderate my speech. My Thai wife is appalled at my comments to you. That is not the Thai way she lectured me. And I agree. Lets meet half way, just say things in plain language and keep the post to 4 sentences or less. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I make no apology for what you term long winded and stilted. If it bothers you then ignore my comments entirely. I have no cartoonist capacity to make it easy for some people. I am not suggesting you apologise for your inability to express yourself clearly, simply suggesting that if you wish to be understood follow George Orwell's advice to keep it clear and simple.Clarity in writing is not to be despised, not least since it usually reflects clarity in thought processes.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, jayboy said: I am not suggesting you apologise for your inability to express yourself clearly, simply suggesting that if you wish to be understood follow George Orwell's advice to keep it clear and simple. Clarity in writing is not to be despised, not least since it usually reflects clarity in thought processes. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Mr Blair I am not. Nor am I simple. I am Dumbastheycome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Will Thailand get worse and worse until people get hungry enough to stand up? Edited March 22, 2017 by hobz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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