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4 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

There is definitely a clean up operation happening. My wife works in a condo management office and sometimes does rentals. Last week she rented out 2 condos to Thai policemen, 2-3 month rental, and they said they were here on special assignment to clean up walking st.

I wonder when to much becomes to much and the PM steps in. For now Ms. Kobacorn seems to have the upper hand. 

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Just now, whatawonderfulday said:

They go all over, have been know to be in the Pink Lady in Hat Yai apparently :smile:

Yes, I have known Isaan girls here--and at the Poor Man's Pink as well as the Pink Lady--but I've also met some Songkhla girls in Chiang Mai. Sometimes they like to "work" in places far from their families.

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6 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

goes in circles. normally the bar is warned before the cops arrive and they get dressed before they arrive. will only be temporary like every other crackdown i have seen over the last 10 year.

Let's not forget the Purachai crackdown. That just about ruined the whole scene and took years to get back to 'normal".

Personally, given the prices they are asking, I'd say that the scene was in big trouble long before this "crackdown".

Last time I was in Pattaya never seen such a low, low season, and that was before any police intervention.

Also not helped by a lack of attractive girls. Much worse than usual. I even saw some verging on obesity which I never saw before. 

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Yes, you have to go later.  Baccara takes off but later.  So do most of the popular places.

But, I do think things have changed even in the past year.  Some nasty things use to go on in several of these places but not now.  I am sure it still happens, but no to the same extent/public arena it use to.

A good clean family resort city is coming.  Should be a lot of fun. 

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My observations

Wealthy tourists want exclusive and wont mix in a mass tourist centre the top ten at the moment can’t touch pattaya  (1) is los Vegas  - (10) Aspen

Family destination is mainly domestic go to Jomtien and duntan beach pattaya way to dirty

They travel in big groups by pickup truck stay many to a room eat market or bring with them so spend won’t be significant.

The Bangkok visitors tend to stay in their own condos own transport are the spenders though

Spoke to many business owner foreign investors around pattaya they accept a reduced walking street but a casino is their only saviour going forward

The sex has always being the engine here but that now being changed and going online cheap air travel is contributing to the shortage of girls around the town has made it difficult to keep girls

Massive growth in massage parlour has been the end of girls working in bars

The one thing is sure they will continue to blame the go go bars on farang thai had nothing to do with it

They will still have no plan 10 years from now except to be guided by greed and xenophobic ideals but with the zero tours back in full swing and the cities roads breaking up they will be busy.

I do know a go go bar on walking street is owned by a senior cop am sure there are more he also has a bar near my condo

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2 minutes ago, retirementenquiry said:

My observations

Wealthy tourists want exclusive and wont mix in a mass tourist centre the top ten at the moment can’t touch pattaya  (1) is los Vegas  - (10) Aspen

Family destination is mainly domestic go to Jomtien and duntan beach pattaya way to dirty

They travel in big groups by pickup truck stay many to a room eat market or bring with them so spend won’t be significant.

The Bangkok visitors tend to stay in their own condos own transport are the spenders though

Spoke to many business owner foreign investors around pattaya they accept a reduced walking street but a casino is their only saviour going forward

The sex has always being the engine here but that now being changed and going online cheap air travel is contributing to the shortage of girls around the town has made it difficult to keep girls

Massive growth in massage parlour has been the end of girls working in bars

The one thing is sure they will continue to blame the go go bars on farang thai had nothing to do with it

They will still have no plan 10 years from now except to be guided by greed and xenophobic ideals but with the zero tours back in full swing and the cities roads breaking up they will be busy.

I do know a go go bar on walking street is owned by a senior cop am sure there are more he also has a bar near my condo

You are wrong. I live here.  No shortage of girls in fact SOI 6 is more packed with girls then ever. 100's on just that one SOI.  BR, packed 100' s of girls after 11 pm. MP's not enough space out front to have the girls sit.  All this plus gogos, discos, bars,

online dating sites, Badoo, Tinder, etc.  1000's of girls available because of the internet more then ever.

A gogo is the last place I would meet a lady.  Haven't done so for several years which is a good thing.

There is absolutely no shortage of girls here.  Too many girls not enough time truly.

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11 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

I get what you are saying, but even "naughty" establishments are licensed legitimate businesses. Even under military rule, police dont have powers to shut down a business, even if there is illegal activities. The exception being if you breech alcohol licensing laws, you could loose your license, the business can probably stay open selling coca-cola but what the point. A topless dancer is probably a fine at best, unless there is a law on the books that says the penalty is shut down the business. 

I really don't see what the Big Deal is about. Canada has allowed Nude Dancing since the 1980's. To my knowledge, it has never been a problem for anyone their.

 

It is not like you can find a place like this next to the school grounds with see-through glass windows. It is highly restricted and controlled. Besides that, it gives the Cute University Students a chance to earn better money during the summer instead of just working at McDonalds.

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11 hours ago, Thaidream said:

Walking Street is not long for this World the way it stands now.  the beach side is going to be demolished and the GoGo joints are going to be harassed until they either move; shut down; or change their routines. the powers that be are going to drive out the sex business and their goal is to gentrify Walking Street. They don't care if all Western tourists leave. They want the Chinese and middle to upper class Thais as these people are not interested in the Walking Street there is now and spend more money.

At one time-GoGo bars made money but there are too many and they are all hurting for business. Yes, Thailand could close them all in one day but that is not the Thai way- they work step by step- keep harassing; keep raiding; keep watching. 

They know they can't completely stop it all but their goal is to move it to a place that is not so in your face and noticeable.

In addition- the whole GoGo scene is boring and nothing but a rip off. It doesn't have the attraction it had as they are all the same; with the same hustle and not really fun at all.

Nobody spends more money than a drunk westerner in a go-go bar, and if they do they have something of material worth to show for it. I think Thailand will shoot themselves in the foot if they stop this activity. Not gonna happen anyway.

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12 hours ago, GOLDBUGGY said:

I really don't see what the Big Deal is about. Canada has allowed Nude Dancing since the 1980's. To my knowledge, it has never been a problem for anyone their.

 

It is not like you can find a place like this next to the school grounds with see-through glass windows. It is highly restricted and controlled. Besides that, it gives the Cute University Students a chance to earn better money during the summer instead of just working at McDonalds.

My province has had full nude dancing since the 1960's. 

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> I was at Baccara a few nights ago after a long absence.

>  It seems that they have completely done away with topless shows,

>  not to mention the occasional bottomless ones.

 

We made a visit to Baccara last night at about 11pm

and it was business as usual, with lot of to see... :thumbsup:

 

We then visited a few other places

and lot of more to see than "just topless"... :cool:

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On 3/13/2017 at 7:47 PM, retirementenquiry said:

My observations

Wealthy tourists want exclusive and wont mix in a mass tourist centre the top ten at the moment can’t touch pattaya  (1) is los Vegas  - (10) Aspen

Family destination is mainly domestic go to Jomtien and duntan beach pattaya way to dirty

They travel in big groups by pickup truck stay many to a room eat market or bring with them so spend won’t be significant.

The Bangkok visitors tend to stay in their own condos own transport are the spenders though

Spoke to many business owner foreign investors around pattaya they accept a reduced walking street but a casino is their only saviour going forward

The sex has always being the engine here but that now being changed and going online cheap air travel is contributing to the shortage of girls around the town has made it difficult to keep girls

Massive growth in massage parlour has been the end of girls working in bars

The one thing is sure they will continue to blame the go go bars on farang thai had nothing to do with it

They will still have no plan 10 years from now except to be guided by greed and xenophobic ideals but with the zero tours back in full swing and the cities roads breaking up they will be busy.

I do know a go go bar on walking street is owned by a senior cop am sure there are more he also has a bar near my condo

You are wrong. I live here.  No shortage of girls in fact SOI 6 is more packed with girls then ever. 100's on just that one SOI.  BR, packed 100' s of girls after 11 pm. MP's not enough space out front to have the girls sit.  All this plus gogos, discos, bars,

online dating sites, Badoo, Tinder, etc.  1000's of girls available because of the internet more then ever.

A gogo is the last place I would meet a lady.  Haven't done so for several years which is a good thing.

There is absolutely no shortage of girls here.  Too many girls not enough time truly.

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