oxo1947 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BsBs said: If you buy the top model, for less than 1 million more you can get a Benz, so why buying Japanese ? No taste for nice cars ? I have a great taste for nice Cars.....Cars not vans...and would love to have a Benz at the prices you are quoting --so could you help me with this---I don't want a van...which come in a little cheaper.......so I have underline the price list from Benz....(the other figures are deposits---payments etc) ....where do I go from here ............................ Mercedes-AMG A 45 4MATIC 1,991 4,390,000 1,098,000 43,900 1,360,900 Mercedes-AMG CLA 45 4MATIC 1,991 4,690,000 1,173,000 46,900 1,453,900 Mercedes-AMG GLA 45 4MATIC 1,991 4,690,000 1,173,000 46,900 1,453,900 Mercedes-AMG C 43 4MATIC Coupé 2,996 5,190,000 1,298,000 51,900 1,764,600 Mercedes-AMG C 63 S Coupé 3,982 9,990,000 - - - Mercedes-AMG SLC 43 2,996 4,990,000 1,248,000 49,900 1,546,900 Mercedes-AMG GLE 43 4MATIC Coupé 2,996 7,990,000 - - - E 220 d Estate AMG Dynamic 1,950 4,740,000 1,218,000 47,400 1,706,400 CLS 250 d Exclusive 2,143 4,090,000 1,023,000 40,900 1,431,500 CLS 250 d AMG Premium 2,143 4,690,000 1,173,000 46,900 1,641,500 CLS 250 d Shooting Brake AMG Premium 2,143 4,790,000 1,198,000 47,900 1,580,700 S 500 e Executive 2,996 5,990,000 1,478,000 59,900 2,276,200 S 500 e Exclusive 2,996 6,390,000 1,570,000 63,900 2,428,200 S 500 e AMG Premium 2,996 6,990,000 1,710,000 69,900 2,656,200 S 500 Coupé AMG Premium 4,663 15,490,000 - - - S 500 Cabriolet AMG Premium 4,663 16,290,000 - - - SL 400 AMG Premium 2,996 9,490,000 - - - GLE 500 e 4MATIC Exclusive 2,996 4,760,000 1,190,000 47,600 1,570,800 GLE 500 e 4MATIC AMG Dynamic 2,996 5,190,000 1,298,000 51,900 1,712,700 GLE 350 d 4MATIC Coupé AMG Dynamic 2,987 6,990,000 1,713,000 69,900 2,656,200 GLS 350 d 4MATIC AMG Premium 2,987 7,990,000 - - - G 350 d Sport 2,987 8,490,000 2,070,000 84,900 3,226,200 Mercedes-AMG GT S 3,982 14,900,000 - - - Mercedes-Maybach S 500 Exclusive 4,663 14,900,000 - - - Mercedes-Maybach S 500 Premium 4,663 16,900,000 Edited March 13, 2017 by oxo1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 You could go here: CLA 200 Urban 1,595 2,140,000 527,000 21,400 813,200 CLA 250 AMG Dynamic 1,991 2,490,000 617,000 24,900 946,200 GLA 200 Urban 1,595 2,090,000 513,000 20,900 794,200 GLA 250 AMG Dynamic 1,991 2,390,000 592,000 23,900 908,200 C 350 e Avantgarde 1,991 2,570,000 635,000 25,700 976,60 But the CLA back seat is very small. The GLA not much better and not a sedan. The C class might be OK if you could put up with a smaller car and +1M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Accord, Teana and Camry are much roomier than all Entry levels of Benz and BMW. I would say these D segments are between C and E class in terms of roominess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BsBs Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Life must seem expensive to you if you are not able to find the CLA and C-class prices. CLA around 2.5MB when top ACCOR is 1.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juehoe Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 If you buy the top model, for less than 1 million more you can get a Benz, so why buying Japanese ? No taste for nice cars ?Agree, that Accord, Camry etc. may be look a little bit boring.But the Benz are overrated and overpriced. They have very bad ratings according to Consumer Reports, especially the A and C series. The models in the same price range of Accord & Co. have low specs and small engines.Honda and Toyota have the far more better dealer network. You just find a dealer everywhere.I think that choosing between Accord and Camry is a matter of personal taste and preferences. For me, the new Accord is more pleasant than the (boring) Camry. The Teana may have better options but I don't like its look. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jitar said: You could go here: CLA 200 Urban 1,595 2,140,000 527,000 21,400 813,200 CLA 250 AMG Dynamic 1,991 2,490,000 617,000 24,900 946,200 GLA 200 Urban 1,595 2,090,000 513,000 20,900 794,200 GLA 250 AMG Dynamic 1,991 2,390,000 592,000 23,900 908,200 C 350 e Avantgarde 1,991 2,570,000 635,000 25,700 976,60 But the CLA back seat is very small. The GLA not much better and not a sedan. The C class might be OK if you could put up with a smaller car and +1M. For 2.5M I'd rather get a bmw 320d (or even a wrx). While the price gap between a top of the line camry/accord and bottom rung benz does not seem so much, that gap widens over time with cost of ownership / maintenance of the benz being much higher. Sure they are nice cars, but they do have their little electrical gremlins that can go wrong over time. They cost a lot to fix. Euro cars are just for those with lots of time and money on their hands. Edited March 13, 2017 by DavisH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 We like our Teana. Bought used as wanted a V6 and torque converter auto, not a L4 with CVT. Some on 12car listed for around 700K with less than 5000 km. Can't be beat. Ours has been trouble free. Does not have low profile tires so rides very nice. Quiet inside, lots of room. Quick (relative) Same same Maxima in N. America. Still keeping an eye out for a replacement - not that we want one but nice to look. Have found nothing that comes even close to the equipment/performance offered at that price point. Many cars offered for twice the money - certainly not twice the car. But - up 2 U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 hours ago, oxo1947 said: yes of course you get it serviced locally--- why on earth would you think of driving to BKK to service it ????????? Honda guarantee & warranty covers Thailand country wise..... its an odd question build... This is what I got in BKK on a sale No difference in the price because I sold my last car privately usually they will give you a better deal but can not alter the stated sale price Free insurance 1 year Free Film (the top grade not the usual stuff they palm off) Free treatment for all the seats 5 year warranty (can not stain etc) They offered me free Glass finish on car--but it was not the top grade--so we done a deal, (they paid 80%) this I think is a must, 4 years on & not 1 stone chip on the paint with the glass finish, lifetime guarantee.... my wife has had 2 bumps---after fixing they resprayed the glass over the new paint...no cost . So many smaller extras --just can not remember them all--took them all but removed some after---runners inside the door etc....etc ....etc If Khampaeng Phet gives better deal than BKK ...(that dealer had sold 17 that week)....let me know.....I'll head there next time..... I haven't bought a new car in years and the Ford Ranger I did buy I bought in BKK as I was living there at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 23 hours ago, Suitcase said: You don't know what you are talking about unless it would be a lawnmower or snowmobile with a CVT. It could be a belt or a chain drive. Either way they are very reliable and no problem with changing gear or being overtaken. Have a CVT in a Mitsubishi and it will go just as fast on the level or up a steep grade as your manual or automatic! Also many smaller motorbikes have the CVT and they are very reliable. But still cr a p.. And I doubt your Mitsu could keep up with baby stroller. Google CVT for more info, they are widely derided by the motoring press. What would I know I'm only a mechanical engineer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 But still cr a p.. And I doubt your Mitsu could keep up with baby stroller. Google CVT for more info, they are widely derided by the motoring press. What would I know I'm only a mechanical engineer ?Not much of one.Read up to date reviews not 25years old ones.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, Ace of Pop said: Not much of one.Read up to date reviews not 25years old ones. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect They have been trying to perfect the CVT for 25 years. Auto companies have persevered because it's light and cheap to produce. In a low powered eco car it's ideal ( for the manufacturer) but they are still poor to drive and still have reliability issues. You can't polish a t u r d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Honda can. I don't give a Rats Ass good or bad,but Sons HRV is fine ,sos the new Turbo CivicI hear and the Mitsu drives rather well to...My preference is a V8 American Muscle with a Stick ,but that ain't going to happen here.[emoji30]Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suitcase Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 59 minutes ago, Pdaz said: But still cr a p.. And I doubt your Mitsu could keep up with baby stroller. Google CVT for more info, they are widely derided by the motoring press. What would I know I'm only a mechanical engineer ? That is how much you know! I drive once a month to Khon Kaen at a speed over 100 km unless I am slowed down by traffic. Three cyl Mitsu with the air on. In 25 yrs there has been a lot of engineering done on CVTs. like Ace of Pops said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BsBs Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 16 hours ago, juehoe said: Agree, that Accord, Camry etc. may be look a little bit boring. But the Benz are overrated and overpriced. They have very bad ratings according to Consumer Reports, especially the A and C series. The models in the same price range of Accord & Co. have low specs and small engines. Honda and Toyota have the far more better dealer network. You just find a dealer everywhere. I think that choosing between Accord and Camry is a matter of personal taste and preferences. For me, the new Accord is more pleasant than the (boring) Camry. The Teana may have better options but I don't like its look. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Really, people always need to think about ridiculous things as maintenance, consumer reports etc ? Nobody just wants to buy something nice and not boring ? So yes, keep thinking and buy an ugly boring car !!! You are wrong about engine: a 2000cc engine developing more than 200 power is more than enough, especially on Thai roads. Who is stupid enough to choose a useless more powerful engine that will use 2 times more gasoline? Oh sorry, I forgot that you might be the kind of guy who buys diesel !!!!! consumer reports !!!1 hahahahaha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suitcase Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Pdaz said: But still cr a p.. And I doubt your Mitsu could keep up with baby stroller. Google CVT for more info, they are widely derided by the motoring press. What would I know I'm only a mechanical engineer ? I Googled CVT and the only negative comments I could find were the slow startup and the noise of the engine as the CVT changed ratios. If you can point me to a current article I would gladly read it. Nissian Maxima has a 300 HP engine hooked up to a CVT with a 10 yr and 120,000 mi warranty. They must be doing something right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansell Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 27 minutes ago, Suitcase said: I Googled CVT and the only negative comments I could find were the slow startup and the noise of the engine as the CVT changed ratios. If you can point me to a current article I would gladly read it. Nissian Maxima has a 300 HP engine hooked up to a CVT with a 10 yr and 120,000 mi warranty. They must be doing something right! Type in CVT Issues and you get quite a few articles, especially problems with Nissan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Type in Ford Issues and the PC explodes.[emoji522]Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said: Type in Ford Issues and the PC explodes. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Ford don't use DAF style gearboxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, JaseTheBass said: Ford don't use DAF style gearboxes. They reverse really fast though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 They reverse really fast though :)My gran had one. Hideous thing it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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