Knife man in Hua Hin station rampage - all because he had the wrong ticket

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Knife man in Hua Hin station rampage - all because he had the wrong ticket

 

Picture: video screenshot

 

HUA HIN: -- A Thai man with mental health issues went on a rampage at Hua Hin railway station yesterday. And later it emerged that he had tried to board with the wrong ticket.

 

Railway police called the local police station for back-up around noon when the Bangkok to Surat Thani express was in the station on platform one.

 

There were reports that a man brandishing a knife had been seen. Police saw a man answering the description - he was dressed in a black shirt and grey shorts and had no shoes. He was holding a one foot long kitchen knife in his right hand.

 

Police tried to calm the situation as hundreds of passengers looked on with some leaving the station for their own safety, reported Sanook.com.

 

The man was babbling incoherently. When negotiations failed a team of officers managed to get behind him and used a stick to bash the knife from his grasp. He then fled down the platform and managed to get on the roof of a train and was trying to get on the station room when he was finally apprehended.

 

He was a 46 year old man. He was taken away to the Hua Hin police station and was found to be in possession of a mental health card from a hospital. Police were trying to contact relatives.

 

The railway station master told reporters that the man had been milling around the station since the day before. He had bought a

ticket for Chumporn but when he tried to board the train inspectors found that it was the wrong one for that train so he was denied entry.

 

That was when he produced the knife from his possessions and the trouble began. No one was injured in the incident.

 

Source: Sanook

 

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[Borzandy]

LOS in her best.

[ILOOKFORWORK]

Poor guy ... I hope he gets back into care and on the medication he likely is normally taking.

[Crash999]

Sad situation. Guy obviously was trying to get to his destination but confused and suffering from mental issues. 

[imagemaestro]

The coppers know absolutely nothing about the ICE rule in these situations do they?

Isolate

Contain

Evacuate

 

You don't spend ten minutes playing "chasey" round a crowded railway platform.

[AhFarangJa]

What is it with all these numpties, or half wits, standing there with the mobile phones filming it......I would be the first to take myself and family to a safe area.....

[sikishrory]

If this happened in sydney the guy may well have been shot dead. This is obviously a better outcome but "bashed out of his hand with a stick"

Don't they have tasers or bean bag rounds over here? They're only a few hundred baht down on beach road

[ajarnmarc]

It would appear he's trying to express his frustration with the service he's received...

[KIWIBATCH]

Poor guy...hopefully he gets approriate help

[Baerboxer]

53 minutes ago, imagemaestro said:

The coppers know absolutely nothing about the ICE rule in these situations do they?

Isolate

Contain

Evacuate

 

You don't spend ten minutes playing "chasey" round a crowded railway platform.

 

At least they don't draw their guns, shout loud instructions to him, and then shoot him several times.

[bkkgriz]

[tezzainthailand]

19 minutes ago, KIWIBATCH said:

Poor guy...hopefully he gets approriate help

...and the correct ticket

[catman20]

1 hour ago, imagemaestro said:

The coppers know absolutely nothing about the ICE rule in these situations do they?

Isolate

Contain

Evacuate

 

You don't spend ten minutes playing "chasey" round a crowded railway platform.

chasey chasey im going to catch you

[roo860]

Only this week someone was gunned down inside their car with mental issues by US police

That's a new one, their car had mental issues, perhaps it was black?

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[johnhw]

2 hours ago, Borzandy said:

LOS in her best.

And you are from LOWER (Land Of Western Elitist Righteousness) where folks don't stoop to have mental problems (until Enormous Egotistic Cultural Myopic Mania is added to the list.)

[Falcon]

Funny really that posters on here are saying "poor guy, hope he gets the treatment he needs" instead of asking why this 'poor guy' with mental issues, is walking around with a 12"knife in his possessions and obviously ready and willing to stab or slash anyone that he felt like stabbing just because things didn't go his own way.

[hhinhh]

2 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Very nice that the Thai police did not use their guns.Most likely in the USA this mental patient would be shot to death instantly.

Shoot in the leg would do. The police was not protecting the people but chased by this guy. Never have seen such coward police. It would easily be possibly that he attacked passengers.

[lostinataxi]

29 minutes ago, hhinhh said:

Shoot in the leg would do. The police was not protecting the people but chased by this guy. Never have seen such coward police. It would easily be possibly that he attacked passengers.

Not sure why so many people think shooting someone in the leg is safe to do.   Probably from watching Hollywood movies I would guess.  People shot in the legs bleed out and die all the time.  Blood loss causing drop in blood pressure is what would kill him.  Ever heard of the femoral artery?  It runs into the leg and if hit, the person will be dead very fast.

Edited March 21, 2017 by lostinataxi

[Kabula]

Mental health issues in the news are accelerating as the world economy is retreating.

 

Worldwide, government agencies are cutting back on mental health funding, leaving millions of people homeless and millions in prison.

[Ozziefrog]

Can believe the coppers can't deal with a guy holding a knife ?

First lesson in close combat.....

 

 

[toofarnorth]

If he had mental issues he at least chose the train and not hoping to get to Chumpon by minibus , a long road in a death trap.

[Ozziefrog]

3 minutes ago, lostinataxi said:

Not sure why so many people think shooting someone in the leg is safe to do.   Probably from watching Hollywood movies I would guess.  People shot in the legs bleed out and die all the time.  Blood loss causing drop in blood pressure is what would kill him.  Ever heard of the femoral artery?  It runs into the leg and if hit, the person will be dead very fast.

Wouldn't die if you shoot him in the foot and hurt far more ...... 

[TSF]

Yep, if this was in Australia he'd be a dead man now.

[lostinataxi]

5 minutes ago, Ozziefrog said:

Wouldn't die if you shoot him in the foot and hurt far more ...... 

Ever try shooting someone who is moving around like that in the foot?   It's a small target and it's moving around.  This is why police   are taught to shoot center mass .  If it's really life or death and shooting is the only option, you may be the one dead if you fiddle fart around trying to shoot someone posing a deadly threat in the foot.   I understand the Thai police may not want to shoot someone, but this is risky for everyone near this crazy person.  Things could've gone really bad and he could've killed bystanders easily.  This is why he most likely would've been shot if it had happened in just about any other country.   If things had gone south and innocent bystanders were killed or seriously wounded, then what would people be saying?  You can imagine.

Edited March 21, 2017 by lostinataxi

[Thaidream]

He would have been shot dead in the US. While I can understand the use of deadly force in some circumstances- the police are paid to take and accept risks.  The Thai police did not shoot and allowed the man to have some space while the police moved out of the way. The weapon was eventually knocked from his hand. 

The bystanders were warned of the situation but chose to stay and watch except the few who actually left including the foreigners in the crowd.

Western police departments are too trigger happy- with proper training both physical and psychological most incidents can be diffused without deadly force.

I commend the Thai police on getting this man in custody without injury or loss of life. He will live to see another day and hopefully get more treatment.

[Peterw42]

20 minutes ago, lostinataxi said:

Not sure why so many people think shooting someone in the leg is safe to do.   Probably from watching Hollywood movies I would guess.  People shot in the legs bleed out and die all the time.  Blood loss causing drop in blood pressure is what would kill him.  Ever heard of the femoral artery?  It runs into the leg and if hit, the person will be dead very fast.

Thats right, and if you look at the video, no one has a clear shot as there is always someone behind the knife guy. Also people dont realize that holding a knife isn't grounds for shooting someone, the law comes into play, they can shoot a felony but not a misdemeanor etc, or if a "direct" danger to another person.

[lostinataxi]

3 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

He would have been shot dead in the US. While I can understand the use of deadly force in some circumstances- the police are paid to take and accept risks.  The Thai police did not shoot and allowed the man to have some space while the police moved out of the way. The weapon was eventually knocked from his hand. 

The bystanders were warned of the situation but chose to stay and watch except the few who actually left including the foreigners in the crowd.

Western police departments are too trigger happy- with proper training both physical and psychological most incidents can be diffused without deadly force.

I commend the Thai police on getting this man in custody without injury or loss of life. He will live to see another day and hopefully get more treatment.

Knives are very deadly, right?  You would risk the innocent bystanders lives?  Were you present to witness first hand that everyone was warned well in advance to get out of there?  The police had no way to know this guy wouldn't have stabbed many people and even though it turned out okay, it was a very risky choice they made to not shoot him.  The fact that things turned out okay in the end is great, but that doesn't mean it was a risky choice they made for the bystanders lives to be left in jeopardy on the chance this crazy person might not stab people.  

[lostinataxi]

8 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Thats right, and if you look at the video, no one has a clear shot as there is always someone behind the knife guy. Also people dont realize that holding a knife isn't grounds for shooting someone, the law comes into play, they can shoot a felony but not a misdemeanor etc, or if a "direct" danger to another person.

"Brandishing" a knife is not "holding" a knife.  Just like brandishing a handgun is not holding a handgun.   There were plenty of people in immediate danger.  Brandishing a 12 inch knife, running around like a madman, is a felony where I'm from I have no doubt about that.  You don't want to wait until this guy actually stabs people to figure out the threat is real.  Just doing what he did is very threatening and nowhere close to normal behavior.   

Edited March 21, 2017 by lostinataxi

[Thaidream]

While I might agree that the bystanders should have been moved further way- I still believe the police handled it just fine. Why shoot a person when there are other ways to diffuse the situation. Police in the US are constantly criticized with using deadly force when it is not needed.

As a police person, if you cannot figure out and are trained how to deal with incidents like this- there is something wrong with the training or the officer or both.

[Essaybloke]

8 minutes ago, lostinataxi said:

Knives are very deadly, right?  You would risk the innocent bystanders lives?  Were you present to witness first hand that everyone was warned well in advance to get out of there?  The police had no way to know this guy wouldn't have stabbed many people and even though it turned out okay, it was a very risky choice they made to not shoot him.  The fact that things turned out okay in the end is great, but that doesn't mean it was a risky choice they made for the bystanders lives to be left in jeopardy on the chance this crazy person might not stab people.  

He is mentally ill. He needs HELP, not a bullet. Your labeling of this guy as 'crazy' is typical of the attitudes that perpetuate the stigma faced by those with mental health issues. I am glad he did not hurt anyone and that he is now (we hope) receiving the care he needs.