AirBnB legality & handling

[JAZZDOG]

2 minutes ago, newnative said:

   You're trying to make this complicated and it's not. Condos cannot be legally rented for less than 30 days. That's all there is to it.  Period.  Full stop.  Everything else--4 rooms, guesthouse rule, 20 guests, etc., is just blowing smoke.

Agreed, but the way you enforce it is locally thru condo associations and police. Airbnb is not the bad guy, there are many ST condo ads right here on TV, should TV be banned? TV is privy , airbnb most likely not.

[newnative]

18 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Agreed, but the way you enforce it is locally thru condo associations and police. Airbnb is not the bad guy, there are many ST condo ads right here on TV, should TV be banned? TV is privy , airbnb most likely not.

   Airbnb is allowing short-term rentals for Thailand on its website knowing these rentals are illegal so, in my opinion, they are not acting ethically and I would consider them one of the bad guys.  But, I agree it is up to the condo residents, the condo board, the condo management, and the condo juristic to report the illegal rentals in their projects and get them shut down.  Police are usually reactive not proactive--they don't go door to door asking "Anybody steal your tv today?"  No, they wait until you call and tell them your tv was stolen and then, hopefully, they do something.  So, it's up to us to drop a dime on the illegal activity.

[JAZZDOG]

1 minute ago, newnative said:

   Airbnb is allowing short-term rentals for Thailand on its website knowing these rentals are illegal so, in my opinion, they are not acting ethically and I would consider them one of the bad guys.  But, I agree it is up to the condo residents, the condo board, the condo management, and the condo juristic to report the illegal rentals in their projects and get them shut down.  Police are usually reactive not proactive--they don't go door to door asking "Anybody steal your tv today?"  No, they wait until you call and tell them your tv was stolen and then, hopefully, they do something.  So, it's up to us to drop a dime on the illegal activity.

Thaivisa surely is aware of the law and they advertise right here on the same page you post. There is big difference between legality and legitimacy. 

[stevehhd]

Hi guys

 

Lots of talk on this subject and many sources of information that have suffered from Chinese whispers via partially, or completely, misinformed sources. Those people tenting out properties either long or short term should be properly vetting the renters for suitability for any given property and house them accordingly with respect for the other owners. I have no input on this information. I found it on the web.

 

Quick disclaimer before I get into this: do not treat this as legal advice, this is a simple explanation of the various laws that you need to be aware of if you are looking to rent out a property short term or through AirBnB in Thailand. AirBnB and the law in Thailand have some conflicts but like all new industries, the legal framework isn’t setup to deal with it.

You are looking to rent out your property on AirBnB in Thailand? You want to make some extra money during your time when you are not in the area, you might be working abroad or taking an extended trip back to Europe / US or wherever. It is important to know how AirBnB and the law in Thailand work so that you can stay on the right side of things. Sites like AirBnB have brought short term rentals into the popular domain. More and more people are choosing to stay in short term rentals but what does the law say?

The Hotel Act
There is often confusion as to whether the hotel act applies to short term rentals. A lot of people see short term rentals as illegally operated hotels which need to go through the same regulations as a normal hotel. There is wording in the hotel act in Thailand that it only applies if you have 4 or more units in the same building. This means that if you are running your own unit on AirBnB or similar sites when you are out of town and not running multiple units then you do not need to worry about the regulation that is covered by the hotel act. You are not 4 units, therefore you are not covered by the act. That is the end of it.

Sometimes a juristic office will put up signs saying that the condo isn’t a hotel and that short term rental guests shouldn’t be there and it is not allowed. They are technically wrong if they are quoting the hotel act as a reason for justifying this. There are ways that a juristic office can justify their signs which try and frighten potential guests but using the hotel act if you are not operating more than 4 units in the building is not one of them.

The Condo Act
When you buy a condominium in Thailand, you are often given a fancy looking box which has everything to do with the condo in it. It will usually contain the keys for the room, mailbox, doors, windows and everywhere. Cards for access to the building and car park, perhaps a stamp for visitors you know who use the car park and some books. One of these books is a book of ownership and the other tends to be the condominium rules. These tend to focus on what happens if you make damage to the building or what to do in various scenarios. It is a way for the condominium to run peacefully and for all residents to get along.

The book is mainly written purely in Thai so if you do want to read it, then it is worth investing in a proper translation so you can see exactly what is written. If there is no mention of short term rentals in these rules then short term rentals have not been outlawed in the building. It is pretty much as simple as that. For new rules to be added, a general meeting needs to be called and a new rule needs to be proposed. If a rule is proposed then there is a vote from the remaining owners within the building. If the vote gets more than a 50% majority then it becomes a rule.

The Condo Act pretty much states that if something becomes a rule in the condo, it is covered by the law. Therefore condo rules are laws. If a condo majority of owners does decide that they do not want short term rentals in their building and it is voted that way then it would be illegal to run short term rentals in that building. If no such thing has happened, then the rule does not exist. If you are considering a property on the second hand market to run as a short term rental investment, ask for a copy of the condo rules. If you do your research, you have nothing to fear.


Is Your House or Condo in Thailand An Illegal Hotel?
4 Replies
Recently local authorities have promised to “crack-down” on illegal hotels. If you are a homeowner in Thailand you may think this is not a concern of yours. However, if you are renting your house or condo out – or if you are using a company to own it and are staying it yourself – this does indeed concern you. Local authorities are empowered under two laws to regulate and tax you in such cases: 1) the Hotel Act; and 2) the House and Land Tax Act.

Hotel Act

The Hotel Act (2008) requires any place that provides accommodation for less than a period of one month in exchange for payment is defined as a “Hotel”, regulated by the Hotel Act, and requires a hotel license.

There is a limited exception to this if:

1) the said place has less than five rooms; and

2) cannot accommodate over twenty guests at a time; and

3) the income being earned for such is merely “additional income”,

a license is not required. However, even in that case the owner must report to such accommodation activity to the relevant local authorities.

Anyone who operates Hotel without a license is liable for:

a) a fine of up to THB 20,000; plus

b) a fine of up to THB 10,000 per day of such illicit operation; and

c) imprisonment for up to one year (in the case of a company the person subject to such imprisonment would be director).

Conclusion – AirBnB and the law in Thailand
Rules in Thailand are pretty fluid and open to interpretation. If you are considering running a short term rental in the country then it is worth keeping an eye on the news and also what is happening in the country. Things can change quickly but if you look at the laws which affect short term rentals, then renting out an individual condo for a period of time shouldn’t be a problem. If you have 4 or more in the same building then you will start to have some headaches, just like if your building has voted to outlaw it.

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[JAZZDOG]

47 minutes ago, stevehhd said:

Hi guys

 

Lots of talk on this subject and many sources of information that have suffered from Chinese whispers via partially, or completely, misinformed sources. Those people tenting out properties either long or short term should be properly vetting the renters for suitability for any given property and house them accordingly with respect for the other owners. I have no input on this information. I found it on the web.

 

Quick disclaimer before I get into this: do not treat this as legal advice, this is a simple explanation of the various laws that you need to be aware of if you are looking to rent out a property short term or through AirBnB in Thailand. AirBnB and the law in Thailand have some conflicts but like all new industries, the legal framework isn’t setup to deal with it.

You are looking to rent out your property on AirBnB in Thailand? You want to make some extra money during your time when you are not in the area, you might be working abroad or taking an extended trip back to Europe / US or wherever. It is important to know how AirBnB and the law in Thailand work so that you can stay on the right side of things. Sites like AirBnB have brought short term rentals into the popular domain. More and more people are choosing to stay in short term rentals but what does the law say?

The Hotel Act
There is often confusion as to whether the hotel act applies to short term rentals. A lot of people see short term rentals as illegally operated hotels which need to go through the same regulations as a normal hotel. There is wording in the hotel act in Thailand that it only applies if you have 4 or more units in the same building. This means that if you are running your own unit on AirBnB or similar sites when you are out of town and not running multiple units then you do not need to worry about the regulation that is covered by the hotel act. You are not 4 units, therefore you are not covered by the act. That is the end of it.

Sometimes a juristic office will put up signs saying that the condo isn’t a hotel and that short term rental guests shouldn’t be there and it is not allowed. They are technically wrong if they are quoting the hotel act as a reason for justifying this. There are ways that a juristic office can justify their signs which try and frighten potential guests but using the hotel act if you are not operating more than 4 units in the building is not one of them.

The Condo Act
When you buy a condominium in Thailand, you are often given a fancy looking box which has everything to do with the condo in it. It will usually contain the keys for the room, mailbox, doors, windows and everywhere. Cards for access to the building and car park, perhaps a stamp for visitors you know who use the car park and some books. One of these books is a book of ownership and the other tends to be the condominium rules. These tend to focus on what happens if you make damage to the building or what to do in various scenarios. It is a way for the condominium to run peacefully and for all residents to get along.

The book is mainly written purely in Thai so if you do want to read it, then it is worth investing in a proper translation so you can see exactly what is written. If there is no mention of short term rentals in these rules then short term rentals have not been outlawed in the building. It is pretty much as simple as that. For new rules to be added, a general meeting needs to be called and a new rule needs to be proposed. If a rule is proposed then there is a vote from the remaining owners within the building. If the vote gets more than a 50% majority then it becomes a rule.

The Condo Act pretty much states that if something becomes a rule in the condo, it is covered by the law. Therefore condo rules are laws. If a condo majority of owners does decide that they do not want short term rentals in their building and it is voted that way then it would be illegal to run short term rentals in that building. If no such thing has happened, then the rule does not exist. If you are considering a property on the second hand market to run as a short term rental investment, ask for a copy of the condo rules. If you do your research, you have nothing to fear.


Is Your House or Condo in Thailand An Illegal Hotel?
4 Replies
Recently local authorities have promised to “crack-down” on illegal hotels. If you are a homeowner in Thailand you may think this is not a concern of yours. However, if you are renting your house or condo out – or if you are using a company to own it and are staying it yourself – this does indeed concern you. Local authorities are empowered under two laws to regulate and tax you in such cases: 1) the Hotel Act; and 2) the House and Land Tax Act.

Hotel Act

The Hotel Act (2008) requires any place that provides accommodation for less than a period of one month in exchange for payment is defined as a “Hotel”, regulated by the Hotel Act, and requires a hotel license.

There is a limited exception to this if:

1) the said place has less than five rooms; and

2) cannot accommodate over twenty guests at a time; and

3) the income being earned for such is merely “additional income”,

a license is not required. However, even in that case the owner must report to such accommodation activity to the relevant local authorities.

Anyone who operates Hotel without a license is liable for:

a) a fine of up to THB 20,000; plus

b) a fine of up to THB 10,000 per day of such illicit operation; and

c) imprisonment for up to one year (in the case of a company the person subject to such imprisonment would be director).

Conclusion – AirBnB and the law in Thailand
Rules in Thailand are pretty fluid and open to interpretation. If you are considering running a short term rental in the country then it is worth keeping an eye on the news and also what is happening in the country. Things can change quickly but if you look at the laws which affect short term rentals, then renting out an individual condo for a period of time shouldn’t be a problem. If you have 4 or more in the same building then you will start to have some headaches, just like if your building has voted to outlaw it.

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Very concise except I believe in the last line 5 or more ie: 4 or less rooms

[stevehhd]

Correct JAZZDOG. Did not notice that.

[Peterw42]

3 hours ago, stevehhd said:

The Hotel Act (2008) requires any place that provides accommodation for less than a period of one month in exchange for payment is defined as a “Hotel”, regulated by the Hotel Act, and requires a hotel license.

There is a limited exception to this if:

1) the said place has less than five rooms; and

2) cannot accommodate over twenty guests at a time; and

Most condo blocks have 200-300 rooms so would automatically not qualify for this exemption.

All the "AirBnB is legal" brigade love quoting this exemption but it would appear to refer to the building not the number of condos an individual is renting out.

It has always been understood that the exemption is to cover a couple of rooms above a shop house or similar.

Edited June 1, 2018 by Peterw42

[Peterw42]

On 5/23/2018 at 9:13 PM, JAZZDOG said:

Thaivisa surely is aware of the law and they advertise right here on the same page you post. There is big difference between legality and legitimacy. 

I think some of the adds on Thaivisa are google adds, Thaivisa just provides a space and google adds feeds the content. I often access Thai visa via a VPN to Singapore and often get served adds for Singapore accommodation etc.

Edited June 1, 2018 by Peterw42

[newnative]

2 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Most condo blocks have 200-300 rooms so would automatically not qualify for this exemption.

All the "AirBnB is legal" brigade love quoting this exemption but it would appear to refer to the building not the number of condos an individual is renting out.

It has always been understood that the exemption is to cover a couple of rooms above a shop house or similar.

Correct. 

[ThaiBob]

15 hours ago, stevehhd said:

Hi guys

 

Lots of talk on this subject and many sources of information that have suffered from Chinese whispers via partially, or completely, misinformed sources. Those people tenting out properties either long or short term should be properly vetting the renters for suitability for any given property and house them accordingly with respect for the other owners. I have no input on this information. I found it on the web.

 

Quick disclaimer before I get into this: do not treat this as legal advice, this is a simple explanation of the various laws that you need to be aware of if you are looking to rent out a property short term or through AirBnB in Thailand. AirBnB and the law in Thailand have some conflicts but like all new industries, the legal framework isn’t setup to deal with it.

You are looking to rent out your property on AirBnB in Thailand? You want to make some extra money during your time when you are not in the area, you might be working abroad or taking an extended trip back to Europe / US or wherever. It is important to know how AirBnB and the law in Thailand work so that you can stay on the right side of things. Sites like AirBnB have brought short term rentals into the popular domain. More and more people are choosing to stay in short term rentals but what does the law say?

The Hotel Act
There is often confusion as to whether the hotel act applies to short term rentals. A lot of people see short term rentals as illegally operated hotels which need to go through the same regulations as a normal hotel. There is wording in the hotel act in Thailand that it only applies if you have 4 or more units in the same building. This means that if you are running your own unit on AirBnB or similar sites when you are out of town and not running multiple units then you do not need to worry about the regulation that is covered by the hotel act. You are not 4 units, therefore you are not covered by the act. That is the end of it.

Sometimes a juristic office will put up signs saying that the condo isn’t a hotel and that short term rental guests shouldn’t be there and it is not allowed. They are technically wrong if they are quoting the hotel act as a reason for justifying this. There are ways that a juristic office can justify their signs which try and frighten potential guests but using the hotel act if you are not operating more than 4 units in the building is not one of them.

The Condo Act
When you buy a condominium in Thailand, you are often given a fancy looking box which has everything to do with the condo in it. It will usually contain the keys for the room, mailbox, doors, windows and everywhere. Cards for access to the building and car park, perhaps a stamp for visitors you know who use the car park and some books. One of these books is a book of ownership and the other tends to be the condominium rules. These tend to focus on what happens if you make damage to the building or what to do in various scenarios. It is a way for the condominium to run peacefully and for all residents to get along.

The book is mainly written purely in Thai so if you do want to read it, then it is worth investing in a proper translation so you can see exactly what is written. If there is no mention of short term rentals in these rules then short term rentals have not been outlawed in the building. It is pretty much as simple as that. For new rules to be added, a general meeting needs to be called and a new rule needs to be proposed. If a rule is proposed then there is a vote from the remaining owners within the building. If the vote gets more than a 50% majority then it becomes a rule.

The Condo Act pretty much states that if something becomes a rule in the condo, it is covered by the law. Therefore condo rules are laws. If a condo majority of owners does decide that they do not want short term rentals in their building and it is voted that way then it would be illegal to run short term rentals in that building. If no such thing has happened, then the rule does not exist. If you are considering a property on the second hand market to run as a short term rental investment, ask for a copy of the condo rules. If you do your research, you have nothing to fear.


Is Your House or Condo in Thailand An Illegal Hotel?
4 Replies
Recently local authorities have promised to “crack-down” on illegal hotels. If you are a homeowner in Thailand you may think this is not a concern of yours. However, if you are renting your house or condo out – or if you are using a company to own it and are staying it yourself – this does indeed concern you. Local authorities are empowered under two laws to regulate and tax you in such cases: 1) the Hotel Act; and 2) the House and Land Tax Act.

Hotel Act

The Hotel Act (2008) requires any place that provides accommodation for less than a period of one month in exchange for payment is defined as a “Hotel”, regulated by the Hotel Act, and requires a hotel license.

There is a limited exception to this if:

1) the said place has less than five rooms; and

2) cannot accommodate over twenty guests at a time; and

3) the income being earned for such is merely “additional income”,

a license is not required. However, even in that case the owner must report to such accommodation activity to the relevant local authorities.

Anyone who operates Hotel without a license is liable for:

a) a fine of up to THB 20,000; plus

b) a fine of up to THB 10,000 per day of such illicit operation; and

c) imprisonment for up to one year (in the case of a company the person subject to such imprisonment would be director).

Conclusion – AirBnB and the law in Thailand
Rules in Thailand are pretty fluid and open to interpretation. If you are considering running a short term rental in the country then it is worth keeping an eye on the news and also what is happening in the country. Things can change quickly but if you look at the laws which affect short term rentals, then renting out an individual condo for a period of time shouldn’t be a problem. If you have 4 or more in the same building then you will start to have some headaches, just like if your building has voted to outlaw it.

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Please include the link in your web search because I have seen these arguments before used by realtors and lawyers who have a vested interest in the legality of short-term rentals. Other posters have already refuted the "facts" in this post. 

[stevehhd]

Hi Thaibob

 

I will dig it out and post it.  Here you go. 

https://roomfilla.com/airbnb-and-the-law-in-thailand/

 

I found others and shifted through the sensationalists   and " Tuk Tuk driver with 8 toes caught luring whale calves into shallow water for sex by dressing up as flipper and smearing himself with blue cheese sauce" brigade. before posting. 

Would like lo see someone qualified as a THAI LAWYER on the subject  post with real and up to date information.

 

stevehhd

1.  
2.  

[bangkoklawyer24]

16 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Most condo blocks have 200-300 rooms so would automatically not qualify for this exemption.

All the "AirBnB is legal" brigade love quoting this exemption but it would appear to refer to the building not the number of condos an individual is renting out.

It has always been understood that the exemption is to cover a couple of rooms above a shop house or similar.

I wrote it before: This would mean that all owners of the 200-300 rooms run an outlawed hotel business. 

[newnative]

46 minutes ago, bangkoklawyer24 said:

I wrote it before: This would mean that all owners of the 200-300 rooms run an outlawed hotel business. 

If they are renting a condo for less than 30 days that is, indeed, outlawed.

[ThaiBob]

3 hours ago, stevehhd said:

Hi Thaibob

 

I will dig it out and post it.  Here you go. 

https://roomfilla.com/airbnb-and-the-law-in-thailand/

 

I found others and shifted through the sensationalists   and " Tuk Tuk driver with 8 toes caught luring whale calves into shallow water for sex by dressing up as flipper and smearing himself with blue cheese sauce" brigade. before posting. 

Would like lo see someone qualified as a THAI LAWYER on the subject  post with real and up to date information.

 

stevehhd

1.  
2.  

Thank you for the link.  As we can read from the "about us" section, they have a vested interest just like some other posters here that conflate Thai law and potential illegal acts:

 

"About Us

The Roomfilla team have an extensive business background within real estate and short term rentals. Our knowledge enables us to grasp the problems short term rental owners and managers face when looking for tenants for their properties. We are a service based company providing the highest level of service to all sectors of the vacation rental market with a global presence.

 

The team

The team has a great understanding of international startups...... "

[JAZZDOG]

On ‎6‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 6:05 PM, stevehhd said:

Hi guys

 

Lots of talk on this subject and many sources of information that have suffered from Chinese whispers via partially, or completely, misinformed sources. Those people tenting out properties either long or short term should be properly vetting the renters for suitability for any given property and house them accordingly with respect for the other owners. I have no input on this information. I found it on the web.

 

Quick disclaimer before I get into this: do not treat this as legal advice, this is a simple explanation of the various laws that you need to be aware of if you are looking to rent out a property short term or through AirBnB in Thailand. AirBnB and the law in Thailand have some conflicts but like all new industries, the legal framework isn’t setup to deal with it.

You are looking to rent out your property on AirBnB in Thailand? You want to make some extra money during your time when you are not in the area, you might be working abroad or taking an extended trip back to Europe / US or wherever. It is important to know how AirBnB and the law in Thailand work so that you can stay on the right side of things. Sites like AirBnB have brought short term rentals into the popular domain. More and more people are choosing to stay in short term rentals but what does the law say?

The Hotel Act
There is often confusion as to whether the hotel act applies to short term rentals. A lot of people see short term rentals as illegally operated hotels which need to go through the same regulations as a normal hotel. There is wording in the hotel act in Thailand that it only applies if you have 4 or more units in the same building. This means that if you are running your own unit on AirBnB or similar sites when you are out of town and not running multiple units then you do not need to worry about the regulation that is covered by the hotel act. You are not 4 units, therefore you are not covered by the act. That is the end of it.

Sometimes a juristic office will put up signs saying that the condo isn’t a hotel and that short term rental guests shouldn’t be there and it is not allowed. They are technically wrong if they are quoting the hotel act as a reason for justifying this. There are ways that a juristic office can justify their signs which try and frighten potential guests but using the hotel act if you are not operating more than 4 units in the building is not one of them.

The Condo Act
When you buy a condominium in Thailand, you are often given a fancy looking box which has everything to do with the condo in it. It will usually contain the keys for the room, mailbox, doors, windows and everywhere. Cards for access to the building and car park, perhaps a stamp for visitors you know who use the car park and some books. One of these books is a book of ownership and the other tends to be the condominium rules. These tend to focus on what happens if you make damage to the building or what to do in various scenarios. It is a way for the condominium to run peacefully and for all residents to get along.

The book is mainly written purely in Thai so if you do want to read it, then it is worth investing in a proper translation so you can see exactly what is written. If there is no mention of short term rentals in these rules then short term rentals have not been outlawed in the building. It is pretty much as simple as that. For new rules to be added, a general meeting needs to be called and a new rule needs to be proposed. If a rule is proposed then there is a vote from the remaining owners within the building. If the vote gets more than a 50% majority then it becomes a rule.

The Condo Act pretty much states that if something becomes a rule in the condo, it is covered by the law. Therefore condo rules are laws. If a condo majority of owners does decide that they do not want short term rentals in their building and it is voted that way then it would be illegal to run short term rentals in that building. If no such thing has happened, then the rule does not exist. If you are considering a property on the second hand market to run as a short term rental investment, ask for a copy of the condo rules. If you do your research, you have nothing to fear.


Is Your House or Condo in Thailand An Illegal Hotel?
4 Replies
Recently local authorities have promised to “crack-down” on illegal hotels. If you are a homeowner in Thailand you may think this is not a concern of yours. However, if you are renting your house or condo out – or if you are using a company to own it and are staying it yourself – this does indeed concern you. Local authorities are empowered under two laws to regulate and tax you in such cases: 1) the Hotel Act; and 2) the House and Land Tax Act.

Hotel Act

The Hotel Act (2008) requires any place that provides accommodation for less than a period of one month in exchange for payment is defined as a “Hotel”, regulated by the Hotel Act, and requires a hotel license.

There is a limited exception to this if:

1) the said place has less than five rooms; and

2) cannot accommodate over twenty guests at a time; and

3) the income being earned for such is merely “additional income”,

a license is not required. However, even in that case the owner must report to such accommodation activity to the relevant local authorities.

Anyone who operates Hotel without a license is liable for:

a) a fine of up to THB 20,000; plus

b) a fine of up to THB 10,000 per day of such illicit operation; and

c) imprisonment for up to one year (in the case of a company the person subject to such imprisonment would be director).

Conclusion – AirBnB and the law in Thailand
Rules in Thailand are pretty fluid and open to interpretation. If you are considering running a short term rental in the country then it is worth keeping an eye on the news and also what is happening in the country. Things can change quickly but if you look at the laws which affect short term rentals, then renting out an individual condo for a period of time shouldn’t be a problem. If you have 4 or more in the same building then you will start to have some headaches, just like if your building has voted to outlaw it.

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Bottom line is many folks invested in condos who apparently failed to read the bylaws as it pertains to ST rentals. As for Airbnb the owners signed off that ST was legal at their condo.

 

 

From Airbnb :

Your local laws

Please educate yourself about the laws in your jurisdiction before listing your space.

Most cities have rules covering homesharing, and the specific codes and ordinances can appear in many places (such as zoning, building, licensing or tax codes). In most places, you must register, get a permit, or obtain a license before you list your property or accept guests. You may also be responsible for collecting and remitting certain taxes. In some places, short-term rentals could be prohibited altogether.

Since you are responsible for your own decision to list or book, you should get comfortable with the applicable rules before listing on Airbnb. To get you started, we offer some helpful resources under “Your City Laws.”

By accepting our Terms of Service and listing your space, you certify that you will follow applicable laws and regulations.

[ThaiBob]

I believe the above is new. Probably related to recent news. Yeah! 

[blackcab]

An off topic post and a reply have been removed.

[sam neuts]

I think the problem is that people have not yet read the 2016 amendment to the Hotel Act which now covers all buildings from 1 room to the biggest buildings.

All daily rentals are illegal without a licence. The less than 5 rooms does not apply any more.

This was confirmed by Banglamung District Office. Villas, Rooms, Houses, Guesthouses, Homestays etc....all have to register and comply by 2021.

You can see groups and pages on FB with Thailand Hotel Act Information and My Illegal Hotel. Just started to try and get a group going as this will affect lots of businesses and travellers soon.

[JAZZDOG]

5 hours ago, sam neuts said:

I think the problem is that people have not yet read the 2016 amendment to the Hotel Act which now covers all buildings from 1 room to the biggest buildings.

All daily rentals are illegal without a licence. The less than 5 rooms does not apply any more.

This was confirmed by Banglamung District Office. Villas, Rooms, Houses, Guesthouses, Homestays etc....all have to register and comply by 2021.

You can see groups and pages on FB with Thailand Hotel Act Information and My Illegal Hotel. Just started to try and get a group going as this will affect lots of businesses and travellers soon.

If the effective date is 2021 why are guesthouses being cited/closed down right now? Question

[KittenKong]

I think the problem is that people have not yet read the 2016 amendment to the Hotel Act which now covers all buildings from 1 room to the biggest buildings.

All daily rentals are illegal without a licence. The less than 5 rooms does not apply any more.
This was confirmed by Banglamung District Office. Villas, Rooms, Houses, Guesthouses, Homestays etc....all have to register and comply by 2021.

Sounds good to me. About time.

[stevehhd]

"I think the problem is that people have not yet read the 2016 amendment to the Hotel Act which now covers all buildings from 1 room to the biggest buildings.

All daily rentals are illegal without a licence. The less than 5 rooms does not apply any more."

 

Any chance of a copy of the official document from the Thai government stating this and that the law has changed  and that no longer the max 4 units and 20 people ruling is valid.

 

 So you can not rent out your 3 bedroom house to 6 people for 29 days or less for 10k total  total even if you pay  income tax through your company or personally as advised by your accountant and all of your neighbors are happy as long as you keep the street tidy and the noise levels down after bedtime and before breakfast and invite them round for a BBQ with a few glasses of fruit punch.

 

Also would it be legal if I let my friends use my condo for 6 weeks to party their backsides off and charged them a bit of rent to cover the bills ?   Again declaring the income and outgoings through my accountant in both cases ?

 

stevehhd

[sam neuts]

I don't know if I am allowed to post any links but here is one that may clear up the AirBnB part.

 

Please feel free to remove it if it is not allowed and readers will have to message me.

 

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/06/24/thai-law-case-closed-on-airbnb-heres-why-it-wont-matter/

[sam neuts]

What will airbnb offer the Thai government?
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/06/25/airbnb-teases-major-partnership-with-thai-govt/


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[sam neuts]

http://thailandproperty.news/airbnb-partnership-with-thai-govt

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[Pattaya46]

On ‎7‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 11:54 AM, sam neuts said:

http://thailandproperty.news/airbnb-partnership-with-thai-govt

 

What's the point to post this same link - without any comment - in at least 5 different threads !!?? 

And even more when there is already a thread running on this subject :

 

[sam neuts]

 
What's the point to post this same link - without any comment - in at least 5 different threads !!?? 
And even more when there is already a thread running on this subject :
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Apologies. I didnt have time as i was travelling. Just a link i found interesting.

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