webfact Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Cabinet set to mull China submarine deal By The Nation File photo: Prawit BANGKOK: -- The Cabinet is expected to discuss on Tuesday the Bt18 billion submarine-purchasing deal with China, given that the first Bt800-million instalment of the money is due by the end of this month. It is expected that the agenda item at the weekly Cabinet meeting will be proposed by Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan, although that cannot be confirmed. Last week, Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha said the deal was settled in a “buy-two-get-three” way, plus services after the purchase, meaning the government would pay for two submarines and get the third one as “a free gift”. The submarines should be worth the money spent on them, he said. The details of the first instalment of the Yuan Class S26 T submarine is expected to be concluded on Tuesday, as the Budget Bureau announced that any proposal for a deal not exceeding Bt1 billion needs to be put before the Cabinet by this month. The purchase, hyped up since the military-installed government took power in 2014, has been carried out amid criticism about the necessity of sending so much money given that Thailand has no maritime security threats. But Prayut insisted the submarines were needed because the Kingdom’s small submarine fleet was decommissioned in 1951. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30310522 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-03-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 The General consensus is that Thailand does not need submarines and secondly even it did - could not afford to buy them and run them, there are much more important and sensible things that such a huge amount of money could be spent on..........such as education and reform of the RTP, the latter being aimed at actually training them to do their jobs proactively especially the enforcement of traffic laws which will reduce the massive death toll on Thailands roads Also a 500baht fine for causing an accident is a joke Submarines ????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 If the Kingdom's small submarine fleet was decommissioned in 1951; (and it's major contribution during WWII was providing electrical power to the Bangkok Trams after an air raid destroyed the power station), maybe 66 years on the Kingdom has worked out how to manage without them? After all, the Trams have gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishinsiam Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 They want to think of themselves as a super power. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 They always want to run, before they can walk. Delusional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 What's to mull ? The military has already decided to make the purchase all the cabinet is going to do is to rubber stamp the order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Langsuan Man said: What's to mull ? The military has already decided to make the purchase all the cabinet is going to do is to rubber stamp the order I think "mull" is code for how to split up the 30-40% commission on the sale. In the photo, Prawit definitely has the look of someone who has just won the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatawonderfulday Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 200,000 to you, 200,00 to you 200,000 to you and oh yes 200, 000 to you . Now tell me do you think the submarine deal should receive enough support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Thaksin will pay 17 billion so it costs them only 1 billion extra.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, brucec64 said: In the photo, Prawit definitely has the look of someone who has just won the lottery. Him looks same same as a Thai ricefarmer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 here's to hoping that the whole cabinet is going to test-drive these subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsw53 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Not sure of the justification in buying these. You can clearly see ( and smell ) the sewage and rubbish in the sea near us without the need to go looking underneath the waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Before they go looking for the rubber stamp and ink pad, they may want to stage a mock debate to play in the media. Give the appearance of some sort of discourse, though choreographed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Insane waste of money. Thailands infrastructure is crying out for improvements, and should be a far higher priority than submarines that will do nothing for the country, other than something to show off with at the next naval parade. Face wins out over common sense again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 accidents waiting to happen, that's if they ever leave the pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 If the NLA are Junta are so keen to get them, perhaps they should spend a couple of weeks under water in it to test its capabilities and durability. Bet they would not be so keen to buy them then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Makes about as much sense as the sukhumvit underpass in pattaya but someone is lining their pockets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatawonderfulday Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, fruitman said: Him looks same same as a Thai ricefarmer.... Which lottery ? Only Euromillions would come close, and even then it would need to be a multi roll-over Edited March 28, 2017 by whatawonderfulday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGV Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 As long as the Thai population remain mute and frightened to speak out then this action like many others taken by the rich on behalf of the poor will continue Where is the voice of the politicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Well earning submarines dolphins will be interesting... sad ... headlines to follow sub sinks .... Seaman Somchai forgot to close the hatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I'll bet these Chinese cast-off subs are infested with cockroaches and have 'open-plan' toilets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles45 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 From where exactly is the perceived threat that makes this submarine purchase necessary?? Oh, perhaps it is China ......oops, so much for service and maintence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I think our glorious leader has been reading from the North Korean book of how to make friends and influence people. The obvious, veiled threat would be, "now we've got em, let the world beware". This is of course a pissing in the wind type statement.Like the lizard that blows its throat out in times of threat.They were unable to make a sub for some years, how would they know how to run one now, let alone three.Its like every Thai intention, starts off good, and ends in nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 57 minutes ago, biggles45 said: From where exactly is the perceived threat that makes this submarine purchase necessary?? Oh, perhaps it is China ......oops, so much for service and maintence Perhaps Thailand want to threaten Cambodia more. Given the ease to do business there and the level of Chinese investment....."oops, so much for service and maintence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, biggles45 said: From where exactly is the perceived threat that makes this submarine purchase necessary?? Oh, perhaps it is China ......oops, so much for service and maintence ...history.. the Burmese.....555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I think my eyes are getting bad as it looks to me we have a weight problem, mine you the tailor will like that. Dun deal in 2015 from wiki Royal Thai Navy - On 2 July 2015, the Royal Thai Navy (RTN) formally selected China's Yuan-class (Type 041) platform to meet a requirement for three submarines. The RTN's procurement committee voted unanimously in favour of purchasing the submarine, which has been designated S26T (Thailand), a modified export version of the Yuan-class.[12] On 1 July 2016, the RTN submitted a funding plan for its 36 billion baht submarine procurement project to the cabinet for consideration with the expenditure to be spread over 11 years. If approved, the first submarine would be bought for 13 billion baht between fiscal years 2017-2021. The second and third submarines would be purchased during the remainder of the 11-year period.[13][14] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 41 minutes ago, yellowboat said: Perhaps Thailand want to threaten Cambodia more. Given the ease to do business there and the level of Chinese investment....."oops, so much for service and maintence" No you are way off there as behind the Cambodians is a little know country called Vietnam who are not just the no1 holiday destination these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 11 hours ago, webfact said: Bt18 billion submarine-purchasing deal with China A bit overpriced subs... They can better buy submarines build in the Netherlands. They will cost less than 150 million Euro / pc. (Bt 5.5 billion) And quality will be 100 times better than something made in China with their 12 m warranty. (m stands for meter, not for month) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 10 hours ago, fruitman said: Thaksin will pay 17 billion so it costs them only 1 billion extra.... Oh I dont think China will wait forever to collect fantasy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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