April 8, 20178 yr Campaign aims to get junta laws scrapped By THE SUNDAY NATION A SIGNATURE campaign is under way to propose a new law to revoke junta orders deemed to have affected people’s rights. The legal database for human rights advocacy iLaw will collect signatures from members of the public now that the new constitution has been promulgated, its programme manager Yingcheep Atchanont said yesterday. Yingcheep said a number of orders issued by the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) that are regarded as laws that restrict people’s rights and liberties. He noted that the new charter, which came into effect on Thursday, allows members of the public to propose new laws. “Despite the guarantee of rights and freedom in the new charter, people still cannot enjoy them fully due to the existence of the junta’s orders,” he said. Yincheep added that a number of clauses in the charter are too complicated for ordinary people to understand, and it is too much of a burden for them to pursue study the charter themselves. The charter drafters, including Constitution Drafting Commission (CDC) chairman Meechai Ruchupan, should explain to the public what the true intentions behind those clauses are, he said. The government should also open more spaces for the public to discuss the charter content without being threatened with legal charges, he added. Meanwhile, NCPO spokesper-son Colonel Piyapong Klinpan yesterday urged political parties to be patient waiting for the first four laws essential to the coming general election to be completed – then the NCPO, as well as the government, would possibly consider loosening their grip. The NCPO has placed a ban on political parties to ensure peace and order, despite repeated calls from some political parties to lift the ban as the election becomes clearer following promulgation of the new charter. Piyapong said there are still |some movements aimed at insti-|gating public unrest and the |junta needs to main-|tain peace and order through enforcement of Article 44. But as the country moves forward, follow-ing the government’s road map, and if the |time is right, the junta and the government would possibly consider allowing political parties to hold such activities, he said. In a related development, CDC spokesman Udom Ratamarit said that Article 77 of the new charter, which requires public hearings to be held before any law enactment, would not create any problems in implementing the new laws. Udom said given the experience in preparing the new charter as |well as its organic laws, he trusted that Thai society, with its diversity |of views, could eventually find |common ground to resolve their |differences based on public interest. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30311781 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-04-08
April 8, 20178 yr Having been shown the starting line, now still not understanding the rules of the race and rules still not defined the referee could still remove you as a starter prior or mid race, the goal at the moment is to stop anyone getting to the tape at the other END.
April 9, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: The charter drafters, including Constitution Drafting Commission (CDC) chairman Meechai Ruchupan, should explain to the public what the true intentions behind those clauses are, he said. He wants this government to explain itself ? If they did that, they could not interpret, reinterpret, add nuances, give greater or less meaning to, add color or discolor these all laws in applying them to suit the needs of the elite in Thailand.
April 9, 20178 yr You stand a better chance getting the submarine purchase plan scrapped. Prawit must be busting a gut laughing over this one.
April 9, 20178 yr 13 hours ago, rooster59 said: propose a new law to revoke junta orders deemed to have affected people’s rights. A little late and very naive. Did Yingcheep just return to Thailand and miss the military coup in 2014 that replaced the entire government with military appointees, including the NLA? The NLA has since been rubber-stamping NCPO Chief Prayut's legislation. Did Yingcheep also forget Article 44 of the NCPO Interim Constitution that gives it absolute legislative and judicial powers? Did Yingcheep miss the 2016 referendum that passed the NCPO draft constitution that allows under Article 265 the NCPO to continue to exercise its absolute power as prescribed by Article 44 under the Interim Constitution until the Council of Ministers newly appointed following the first general election according to the Constitution takes office? And now Yingcheep objects to people's rights being affected? The opportunity for intellectual discourse has long passed.
April 9, 20178 yr 8 minutes ago, Srikcir said: A little late and very naive. Did Yingcheep just return to Thailand and miss the military coup in 2014 that replaced the entire government with military appointees, including the NLA? The NLA has since been rubber-stamping NCPO Chief Prayut's legislation. Did Yingcheep also forget Article 44 of the NCPO Interim Constitution that gives it absolute legislative and judicial powers? Did Yingcheep miss the 2016 referendum that passed the NCPO draft constitution that allows under Article 265 the NCPO to continue to exercise its absolute power as prescribed by Article 44 under the Interim Constitution until the Council of Ministers newly appointed following the first general election according to the Constitution takes office? And now Yingcheep objects to people's rights being affected? The opportunity for intellectual discourse has long passed. 11 Your points are well taken except for the "intellectual discourse" thing. You are being far too charitable. Since 2014, nothing even remotely intellectual has happened, other than, some yellows are finally figuring out they are being screwed along with the poor. Thailand is done.
April 9, 20178 yr He should be careful he is not rounded up and jailed for instigating a public movement against the junta. More than 5 signatures can be massaged into the current laws of group gatherings
April 9, 20178 yr 17 minutes ago, yellowboat said: Your points are well taken except for the "intellectual discourse" thing. You are being far too charitable. Since 2014, nothing even remotely intellectual has happened, other than, some yellows are finally figuring out they are being screwed along with the poor. Thailand is done. No I disagree. The junta which came to power with the money from certain elites and the clown Suthep has no interest in the clown and his followers, it is all about those who financed the coup. The ones who blew whistles now knows they have been screwed over and are deemed nothing better than the buffalo's from Isaan. By over playing their hand the elites are slowly but surely uniting the new core of Thailand. The youth and young middle class wants more than what they are offered and that will form the united centre which will change the country over the next 10 years. The old elites and their supporters are in the minority and no country can sustain a system which only benefits 5% of the country.
April 9, 20178 yr No I disagree. The junta which came to power with the money from certain elites and the clown Suthep has no interest in the clown and his followers, it is all about those who financed the coup. The ones who blew whistles now knows they have been screwed over and are deemed nothing better than the buffalo's from Isaan. By over playing their hand the elites are slowly but surely uniting the new core of Thailand. The youth and young middle class wants more than what they are offered and that will form the united centre which will change the country over the next 10 years. The old elites and their supporters are in the minority and no country can sustain a system which only benefits 5% of the country.No country? Cambodia (Hun Sen and elite), Laos (the communist party of Laos), Myanmar (Military and elite), China ( the communist party), Russia ( Putin and the elite)and on and on.
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