Bastos60 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 10 hours ago, BritTim said: (source http://www.immigration.gov.ph/faqs/travel-req) If you have evidence that Operations Order No. SBM-2015-026 has been superceded, please point to your source. "Pursuant to Operations Order No. SBM-2015-026, nationals of the following countries may be admitted into the Philippines with passports of less than six (6) months validity from date of arrival:" It is just in the wording but it still says "may be admitted" not they are exempt explicitely. I did write that ministries can write guidelines that are meant to relax the validity rule on passports and that is what it is. But requirement is still 6-months validity. It is even stated on the page you quote. And all the pages I listed are official sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Bastos60 said: There is no such thing as an exempt from any validity rule. Like every country, Immigration has to deal with these situations as per guidelines from their respective ministries and/or police orders. It is not because it is written in the law they have to enforce it strictly, they can relax the rules through written guidelines and have the immigration officers use their own good judgement. http://www.philembassy.be/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=298&Itemid=223 Guidelines on the Entry of Temporary Visitors to the Philippines Nationals from countries listed below who are travelling to the Philippines for business or tourism purposes are allowed to enter the Philippines without visas for a stay not exceeding thirty (30) days, provided they hold valid tickets for their return journey to port of origin or next port of destination and passports valid for a period of at least six (6) months beyond the contemplated period of stay. https://consular.dfa.gov.ph/visainformation It is not because it is not written in stone that they can not be flexible. But it doesn't mean people are by default exempt. Heck even a valid visa does not garantuee entry into any country. They still can boot your ass out of the country. I would recommend you speak of what you know or at least do research. I am speaking from personal experience and research both. http://www.immigration.gov.ph/faqs/travel-req 10. Who are exempt from the “six-month passport validity” rule? Philippine passport holders; Former Filipinos and their dependents (immediate family members); Permanent residents and holders of other special visa categories requiring temporary residents (with valid ACR I-Cards); Passports of recognized foreign-government officials; Visa under CA 613, Sec. 9, except Sec. 9(a), and 47(a)(2) where visa validity extends beyond passport expiration date, provided, an embassy or consulate is maintained in the Philippines; Those admitted by the Commissioner on humanitarian grounds; and Pursuant to Operations Order No. SBM-2015-026, nationals of the following countries may be admitted into the Philippines with passports of less than six (6) months validity from date of arrival: 1. Angola 22. Korea 2. Argentina 23. Kuwait 3. Australia 24. Laos 4. Austria 25. Mexico 5. Belgium 26. Myanmar 6. Benin 27. Netherlands 7. Brazil 28. New Zealand 8. Cambodia 29. Niger 9. Canada 30. Papua New Guinea 10. Chile 31. Peru 11. Cyprus 32. Portugal 12. Ecuador 33. Romania 13. France 34. Saudi Arabia 14. Germany 35. Singapore 15. Greece 36. Spain 16. Iceland 37. Switzerland 17. Indonesia 38. Thailand 18. Ireland 39. Turkey 19. Israel 40. United States of America 20. Italy 41. Venezuela 21. Japan ****As a side note it would seem you have already been provided with this information including the directive involved you are still arguing against it. As i said i said, you have been shown the directive and experienced the exemption personally. It is policy. Edited June 20, 2017 by HooHaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 56 minutes ago, HooHaa said: I would recommend you speak of what you know or at least do research. I am speaking from personal experience and research both. http://www.immigration.gov.ph/faqs/travel-req 10. Who are exempt from the “six-month passport validity” rule? Philippine passport holders; Former Filipinos and their dependents (immediate family members); Permanent residents and holders of other special visa categories requiring temporary residents (with valid ACR I-Cards); Passports of recognized foreign-government officials; Visa under CA 613, Sec. 9, except Sec. 9(a), and 47(a)(2) where visa validity extends beyond passport expiration date, provided, an embassy or consulate is maintained in the Philippines; Those admitted by the Commissioner on humanitarian grounds; and Pursuant to Operations Order No. SBM-2015-026, nationals of the following countries may be admitted into the Philippines with passports of less than six (6) months validity from date of arrival: 1. Angola 22. Korea 2. Argentina 23. Kuwait 3. Australia 24. Laos 4. Austria 25. Mexico 5. Belgium 26. Myanmar 6. Benin 27. Netherlands 7. Brazil 28. New Zealand 8. Cambodia 29. Niger 9. Canada 30. Papua New Guinea 10. Chile 31. Peru 11. Cyprus 32. Portugal 12. Ecuador 33. Romania 13. France 34. Saudi Arabia 14. Germany 35. Singapore 15. Greece 36. Spain 16. Iceland 37. Switzerland 17. Indonesia 38. Thailand 18. Ireland 39. Turkey 19. Israel 40. United States of America 20. Italy 41. Venezuela 21. Japan ****As a side note it would seem you have already been provided with this information including the directive involved you are still arguing against it. As i said i said, you have been shown the directive and experienced the exemption personally. It is policy. 1 - They are not exempt, rather permitted to enter. 2 - The exempt is not explicit for the mentioned nationalities but a circular from the department of Justice, which is as much as just a minister saying that it should not be enforced. Hence why they use the wording "may be admitted". The order even says that foreigners from those countries can be permitted to enter as long as their embassy is authorized to renew or extend the validity of their passports or travel documents. If the embassy is not authorized, that foreigner will not be admitted. So you don't even need a passport that is valid for the duration of you stay to enter. https://www.immigration.gov.ph/images/OPERATIONSORDER/AUG2015/OOSBM2015-026.pdf But most important : They still can deny you to enter. Edited June 20, 2017 by Bastos60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, HooHaa said: As i said i said, you have been shown the directive and experienced the exemption personally. It is policy. I have said it on another topic as well, people travelling to any country need to check with local embassies for the requirements of travel. That is the only thing that is important. Nothing else. So if they have a circular out where they give a set of rules which allow people not meeting those requirments to enter, those directives can change at any moment, may it be that countries are added to that list or removed from that list, or that additional requirement need to be met to be allowed to enter. The only correct travel advise is, get your passport renewed before you travel. This directive is in particular interesting for ex-pats staying in SEA that need to renew their passports, not for cheap charlies that like to live on the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtommike Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Go to your embassy and say you lost your passport and get a new one while you are staying in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, somtommike said: Go to your embassy and say you lost your passport and get a new one while you are staying in Thailand. No need to say you lost it. Just request a new one. Most countries have no complaints as long a you willing to pay for a new one. You have do a police report for a lost or stolen passport. What you suggest would be fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG2026 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 If a person already overstay, will their embassy still give them a new passport when requested? Will they report this person to the Thai immigration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, TG2026 said: If a person already overstay, will their embassy still give them a new passport when requested? Will they report this person to the Thai immigration? Your country will issue you a new passport on request without reference to any crimes you may have committed in another country. If there are outstanding legals issues in home country, they may want to issue you only an emergency travel document to return home to face the music. They will not report you to immigration for overstay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoken Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Pay attention to your passport expiration date and avoid this type of problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AloisAmrein Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 16.4.2017 at 10:39 AM, lemonjelly said: I'd sugar on down to Malaysia, 90 days visa at land border, apply for new PP by post from there.... that's what I did a few years ago... worth checking to see if it's still possible Not possible, Malaysia requires validity of passport for 6 months when entering the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilbaz Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The OP posted on April 16th. I'm sure he has solved his dilemma by now. Has he reported back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Evilbaz said: The OP posted on April 16th. I'm sure he has solved his dilemma by now. Has he reported back? Yes he has. He got a new passport here and resolved his problems. Since this topic keeps getting bumped up for no reason it is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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