webfact Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Two more boats to ply Pattaya - Hua Hin route later this month Source: STV Pattaya PATTAYA: -- Two more high speed catamarans will soon be plying the Pattaya to Hua Hin route after the successful introduction of the service that began in February. Sophon Cable reported on Facebook that "Royal 2" and "Royal 3" are set to join the original "Royal 1" service after checks have been made of the boats. Pattaya harbor master Ekachai Khantaro said that the service introduced by Royal Passenger Liner Co Ltd had been as expected and now the service is set to be expanded. The two new boats have virtually the same specifications as "Royal 1" but are in fact a little larger. They can each carry 350-360 passengers. Ekachai said that after seaworthiness checks have been completed it will be decided what schedule the new boats will follow that will best suit the needs of the travelling public. He expected things to be ready for the service to be expanded to three boats later this month. Source: STV Pattaya -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-05-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deez Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 The one boat they use now is 25% full. Might want to lower the price and offer something to do/eat on the boring and rough 2 hour trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 i am sure the authorities would have calculated the anticipated demand before scheduling additional trips. i wonder what the latest occupancy rates are on the original boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) This company, in its own name and boat names, sure seems to be throwing around the "R" word quite liberally... Kind of makes you wonder who's actually behind this venture... Edited May 2, 2017 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 19 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: This company, in its own name and boat names, sure seems to be throwing around the "R" word quite liberally... Kind of makes you wonder who's actually behind this venture... I often wondered that about King Power at the airports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Deez said: The one boat they use now is 25% full. Might want to lower the price and offer something to do/eat on the boring and rough 2 hour trek. This is normal LOS ignorance ," Hey that 7-11 store is making 200,000 baht a week,so if I open another one next door ,we can both make 200,000 baht a week". DUH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 38 minutes ago, 12DrinkMore said: I often wondered that about King Power at the airports. Well, the ownership behind King Power is pretty well known, being a very wealthy Thai family, the ones that bought the English football club. On the other hand, I've never found/seen a single mention of exactly who is behind the ferry boat service. Conspicuously absent in all articles I've ever read. Though whomever it is, they did seem to manage to get a Thai Navy ship escort for some of their early trips... Wonder how that was arranged??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godang Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Well, the ownership behind King Power is pretty well known, being a very wealthy Thai family, the ones that bought the English football club. On the other hand, I've never found/seen a single mention of exactly who is behind the ferry boat service. Conspicuously absent in all articles I've ever read. Though whomever it is, they did seem to manage to get a Thai Navy ship escort for some of their early trips... Wonder how that was arranged??? Ī wonder how King Power makes a profit the shops never seem overfull with shoppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 They operate the same way as 711 it seems. 711 Will build a shop and if it makes money the build one across the road as then at the other corner, thus keeping out the opposition. They have 90 passengers per trip at present and that was high season and good weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Godang said: Ī wonder how King Power makes a profit the shops never seem overfull with shoppers. It is very easy to launder money with a lot of show and prompt in a failing business .thus preventing the questions of why someone is living an extremely rich lifestyle.You just fake the books showing a large income for the business and paying the income tax as your "illegal" business brings in the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Very strange move considering they struggle to fill up more than 50% on the one they got. If they want Thais to use the service the price must go down to 300 baht one way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abab Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 No bigger boat ? Let's see how many days they can cross during raining season... So incredible that people owning this company do not know something that anybody with a brain knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 As long as its NOT uber or grab taxi...everyone looking to get a cut..... MONEY #1...aka Thainess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 3 boats, going and coming same route, collision inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 How about Klong Toei pier to Pattaya, Hua Hin or ??? I'd take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 55 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: 3 boats, going and coming same route, collision inevitable So ONLY 3 vessels out there at once? No navy, fishing craft? Foolish contention, because there are no doubt dozens of vessels on and around the route at any time. Are you aware of that new fangled equipment called radar? It works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 59 minutes ago, impulse said: How about Klong Toei pier to Pattaya, Hua Hin or ??? I'd take it. Forgot to add- If they let me take my E-Bike onboard so I'm not at the mercy of the taxi mafia wherever I would end up for a weekend getaway from the Big City... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicamera Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 I would feel safer walking to Hua Hin.......wait until the 1st accident of colliding with a freighter with the captain (loose translation) falls asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 4 hours ago, sanukjim said: This is normal LOS ignorance ," Hey that 7-11 store is making 200,000 baht a week,so if I open another one next door ,we can both make 200,000 baht a week". DUH Ive been on that boat in February It was 50% full and thats near peak tourist season and selling no food or drinks ie beer etc. <deleted>. Add a ferry where you can put on cars and bikes and sell FOOD and BEER ETC. Not two more same ferries Just the one that I suggest adds an extra type of service. Christ so obvious. Give me a job running this moron management. They will make BIG money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: Ive been on that boat in February It was 50% full and thats near peak tourist season and selling no food or drinks ie beer etc. <deleted>. Add a ferry where you can put on cars and bikes and sell FOOD and BEER ETC. Not two more same ferries Just the one that I suggest adds an extra type of service. Christ so obvious. Give me a job running this moron management. They will make BIG money Yeah....Barstool Management is trendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, ujayujay said: Yeah....Barstool Management is trendy Ive made millions from barstool management. How much have you made from being a tea drinking critic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 45 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: Ive been on that boat in February It was 50% full and thats near peak tourist season and selling no food or drinks ie beer etc. <deleted>. Add a ferry where you can put on cars and bikes and sell FOOD and BEER ETC. Not two more same ferries Just the one that I suggest adds an extra type of service. Christ so obvious. Give me a job running this moron management. They will make BIG money As I recall, that's the plan. But I suspect the delivery time on purpose built boats will have us well into 2018 before we see any car carrying ferries delivered, unless they can find some surplus ferries that can dock in the rather spartan facilities available on both ends of the route. Good to see they're moving forward to test the limits of the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovethailandelite Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 The article fails to mention that the 2 new ferry's will operate from Sattahip, not Pattaya and will service Hua Hin and Koh Chang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humqdpf Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 If they stopped off at Bangkok, I would consider taking it to Hua Him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Deez said: The one boat they use now is 25% full. Might want to lower the price and offer something to do/eat on the boring and rough 2 hour trek. Looking at the price for Samui to Donsak 350-450 each way I would have thought they should be able to slash the price to 800B (1,600B round trip), When I sailed the Lomprayah High speed cat that was about 25% full. then assume each ferry (Pattaya/Hua Hin) does two round trips a day (assuming like Samui the do not sail in the dark), with 80 passengers average, that's about 500 round trip passengers, 800,000B a day, add other services some freight, VIP lounge, Catering, should easily be profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 19 minutes ago, impulse said: As I recall, that's the plan. But I suspect the delivery time on purpose built boats will have us well into 2018 before we see any car carrying ferries delivered, unless they can find some surplus ferries that can dock in the rather spartan facilities available on both ends of the route. Good to see they're moving forward to test the limits of the market. I agree moving forward but I think it's in a non profitable direction at this stage by adding two more same style ferries and wharves that are basic especially at Pattaya. That is, the powers to be should focus on two wharves that can off load passengers, cars etc at both ports . Major investment but in the long run capital invested with good returns and ongoing profits long term. Further, no one has commented on the fact that one ferry operating now, aside from no food or yummy beer selling and totally a non smoking boat etc was only about 50% full in FEB 2017. Why add two more ferries until the one operating is at least 80 % plus capacity especially during peak seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, Basil B said: Looking at the price for Samui to Donsak 350-450 each way I would have thought they should be able to slash the price to 800B (1,600B round trip), When I sailed the Lomprayah High speed cat that was about 25% full. then assume each ferry (Pattaya/Hua Hin) does two round trips a day (assuming like Samui the do not sail in the dark), with 80 passengers average, that's about 500 round trip passengers, 800,000B a day, add other services some freight, VIP lounge, Catering, should easily be profitable. Either you maths suck or your pissed or I'm pissed . LOL Your logic dissecting your information and taking max income. *two round trips Cost what you want per round trip 1,600 B 80 passengers and they all have return trips. Questionable on that alone? Ok Here we go: 2(trips of boat ) *80 (passenmgers) *1600 B (return trip per passenger) EQUALS = 256,000 Bah. So where do you calculate 800,000 Bah or 500 round trips. You the guy that ordered the other two ferries? LOL I won't invest in your ferries if you did.LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lovethailandelite said: when I saw these two vessels this morning I just assumed they were for the proposed new services to Koh Chang and I am stunned to read they will be added to what can't possibly be a profitable route. the service to Koh Chang would be very attractive particularly now that there is no big bus anymore from Pattaya to Trat so I would pay a premium not to have to go by minivan. that is provided passengers have a cost-effective way of travelling between Sattahip port and Pattaya and would not be held ransom by the taxi Mafia Edited May 2, 2017 by Asiantravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 5 hours ago, klauskunkel said: 3 boats, going and coming same route, collision inevitable 4 hours ago, F4UCorsair said: So ONLY 3 vessels out there at once? No navy, fishing craft? Foolish contention, because there are no doubt dozens of vessels on and around the route at any time. Are you aware of that new fangled equipment called radar? It works. doesn't matter, they will find a way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 9 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: This company, in its own name and boat names, sure seems to be throwing around the "R" word quite liberally... Kind of makes you wonder who's actually behind this venture... a bit like a certain tax free place then who also invest in football clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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