Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

[CaptHaddock]

2 hours ago, Slip said:

"Quacks" like the American Psychoanalytic Association? A professional body with over 100 year's standing that produces "One of the world’s most respected publications in psychoanalysis".

 

 

Psychoanalysis is indeed quackery.  Freud never conducted scientific research; he just made things up based on what he took to be his own psychology.  Nor is there any subsequent body of scientific research supporting the claims of psychoanalysis.  The Nobel Prize that Freud won was in Literature.

[rhodie]

4 hours ago, EvenSteven said:

You're stating the obvious.  The investigation is on-going, so until the investigation is complete why would a rogue like Trump do the right thing and resign as he should?   And the conspiracy theory strategy never gained any traction, so it's back to turd polishing.

Why would he need to resign? You have some info that nobody else does? He should resign because you say so? Please enlighten!

[rhodie]

4 hours ago, EvenSteven said:

Huh?  Where have you been in the last year?  I can only guess under a rock clinging to a conspiracy theory.  Here is one of countless sources on the net that tries to summarize the complexity of the Trump crime syndicate, you could find on your own:  http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

 

 

So an editorial makes him guilty? What planet do you live on?  

Show me the conviction.

[rhodie]

4 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

Just as soon as I hack into the files of the office of the special prosecutor, i'll pass along to you any evidence I find.

Yep, so no evidence in the public domain yet, so no proof. Thank you for being honest! 

[rhodie]

12 hours ago, Slip said:

My game is fine thanks and not relevant to this topic.  You may see if you stop trolling long enough to think, an important line in the text I quoted. You are missing (or probably purposely ignoring) a very important point.

 

Your question was "Is he insane?"- my reply showed 41000 professionals said 'yes' or at least they have reason to be concerned that he may be.  Medical professionals don't get involved in partisan politics when they make professional judgments do they?  The US isn't that far gone yet is it?  After all Trump has been in power less than a year.

 

“We, the undersigned mental health professionals".

So you really believe that is going to bring down Trump. Medical professionals don't have bias? Please. They do paid endorsements all the time.  

And why is it that I am trolling because I oppose your view. I believe Trump will not be impeached. That is my line and when I say it, I get attacked and what you call trolling is just me answering my critics. 

[iReason]

Russia Laundering Probe Puts Trump Tower Meeting in New Light

"Veselnitskaya, who met with Trump Jr. after an email promised him compromising information about Hillary Clinton,

has been depicted as an activist working to repeal human-rights sanctions against Russia."

 

"But when she stepped into Trump Tower, Veselnitskaya was also representing a client ensnared in a long-running U.S. investigation into an alleged web of Russian money-laundering."

 

"U.S. prosecutors in the case are seeking to track parts of more than $200 million they say left Russia after a massive fraud, and to identify who was involved in the scheme."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-15/russia-laundering-probe-puts-trump-tower-meeting-in-new-light

Edited September 22, 2017 by iReason

[rhodie]

4 hours ago, EvenSteven said:

FYI, doctors give their opinion every day on matters of health without interviewing patients.  Data, testing and analysis form the basis of professional judgement, not what a patient tells a doctor, and particularly not a patient who is a serial liar.  Btw, if you can't see that Trump is unfit for the job then that is your problem.

I thought doctors'had to respect patient confidentiality. Guess I am wrong. 

[iReason]

Russian money laundering bank funded Donald Trump’s Washington DC hotel during election

"The United States Office for Government Ethics has released ninety-eight pages of details about Donald Trump’s finances, which demonstrate that he’s directly profiting from the presidency in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution, and that he’s still massively in debt to foreign and domestic banks."

 

"Earlier this year German-based Deutsche Bank was busted for prolonged pattern of laundering Russian money into the hands of clients in places like New York City (link)."

 

"It’s also long been established that Deutsche Bank has continued to float huge long-term loans to Donald Trump, even after he became a bad credit risk due to his continual business failures, and even after Deutsche fell on hard financial times itself."

http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/russian-money-laundering-bank-funded-donald-trumps-dc-hotel-construction-campaign/3495/

 

Deutsche Bank fined for $10 billion Russian money-laundering scheme

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/31/investing/deutsche-bank-us-fine-russia-money-laundering/index.html

 

Follow the money. 

[Ron19]

A troll post has been removed.

 

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[Slip]

1 hour ago, rhodie said:

So you really believe that is going to bring down Trump. Medical professionals don't have bias? Please. They do paid endorsements all the time.  

And why is it that I am trolling because I oppose your view. I believe Trump will not be impeached. That is my line and when I say it, I get attacked and what you call trolling is just me answering my critics. 

I don't think this is a worthy conversation point so mention it only to answer your question and for no other reason:

Quote

Give me something objective! Please. A petition is your evidence. Really? Wow! You will have to do better than that. C'mon, lift your game just a little. 

I consider the above baiting style to be trolling and post it purely as an example. You have every right to your opinion and I don't think that you believing Trump will not resign or be impeached is trolling in any way.   

 

However, my original reply to you was specifically in answer to your question 'is he insane?'

 

I would add that in the long run, you may well be proven correct and I wrong about what happens.  I just think that the way he is Mueller's sights will eventually lead either to his impeachment or his resignation.

 

All the best.

 

EDIT to add: On the subject of medical professionals being biased, of course they can be, but they would hardly be ethical professionals if they made professional judgments based on that bias.                 

Edited September 22, 2017 by Slip

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, ELVIS123456 said:

LOL ! Try these links - easily researched. And more will come out before 2020 elections.

http://www.ntd.tv/2017/08/30/chicago-had-more-votes-than-voters-in-2016-elections/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/15/slippery-slope-cities-across-country-allowing-non-citizens-to-vote.html

Funny how all the 'evidence' coming to light are where Democrats win elections. And just because a State/Teritory/etc decides to allow illegals to vote, does not mean that they are not illegal voters. Trump will make sure by 2020 only citizens or permanent residents can vote - no exceptions by Dems will be allowed.

 

And try this list for the first 6 months or so.  Nothing??   Nothing you like !!

 

 

Chicago made mistakes on its summary of voter information.  Not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

Some voter registration roles are not up to date, because few people notify the election supervisor when they move or die.  Not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

A small city in Maryland has decided to let non-residents vote in local elections.  Legal, and not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

What is striking about all these claims that illegal voting may have occurred is the almost total absence of actual illegal votes identified.  Where are these millions of illegal votes?

 

Your list of accomplishments is full of trivial, destructive and imaginary items.  "Protected Religious Liberties for All American"?  Really?  "Opened First New Coal Mine in Decades"?  Seriously?

 

What about the wall with Mexico?  Tax reform?  Repeal Obamacare?  Defeat ISIS?  How's he doing on these campaign promises?

 

Edit:  I have found one confirmed case of illegal voting.  It was done by Jeffrey Gerrish, Trump’s nominee to be deputy U.S. trade representative.  https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-nominee-apos-illegal-vote-213701118.html 

Edited September 22, 2017 by heybruce

[habanero]

5 hours ago, Slip said:

I can see why you would make the comment you do in the first sentence, however ethics would prohibit a doctor from being influenced by their politics.  The rest is pure speculation, conjecture and projection. What on earth do Bill Clinton and OJ Simpson have to do with it?  

 

You are the second poster in 2 days that seems to have a problem with the meaning of the word 'hearsay', or was it you last time as well?

 

My point was that the psychiatrist,  Dr. Gartner made the claim Trump is unstable to be president. Also, claims he can "recognize murderers and rapist from a mile away." Then why didn't he warn the country about Bill Clinton and O.J. Simpson?

[Skywalker69]

Oh, the ignorance!

Were is the location of this Nambia? Has he made a new country out of Namibia and Gambia?

 

Where is 'Nambia'? President Trump 'invents' African country

 

"Nambia's health system is increasingly self-sufficient," said US President Donald Trump at a lunch with African leaders in New York on Wednesday, reeling off a list of their nations' achievements.

[Skywalker69]

4 minutes ago, Skywalker69 said:

Oh, the ignorance!

Were is the location of this Nambia? Has he made a new country out of Namibia and Gambia?

 

Where is 'Nambia'? President Trump 'invents' African country

 

"Nambia's health system is increasingly self-sufficient," said US President Donald Trump at a lunch with African leaders in New York on Wednesday, reeling off a list of their nations' achievements.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-hosts-african-leaders-un-nambia_us_59c2b29fe4b0c90504fb0cfe

[iReason]

Trump's casino was a money laundering concern shortly after it opened

"The Trump Taj Mahal casino broke anti-money laundering rules 106 times in its first year and a half of operation in the early 1990s, according to the IRS in a 1998 settlement agreement."

 

"Congressional investigators say they are interested in the global network of Trump's finances to determine if FinCEN's data shows connections between Trump associates and Russia."

 

"The violations date back to a time when the Taj Mahal was the preferred gambling spot for Russian mobsters living in Brooklyn, according to federal investigators who tracked organized crime in New York City."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal/

 417 pages of Treasury Department documents

 

 

FinCEN Trump Taj Mahal 1998 Settlement

https://www.scribd.com/document/349142586/FinCEN-Trump-Taj-Mahal-1998-Settlement

[ELVIS123456]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Chicago made mistakes on its summary of voter information.  Not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

Some voter registration roles are not up to date, because few people notify the election supervisor when they move or die.  Not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

A small city in Maryland has decided to let non-residents vote in local elections.  Legal, and not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

What is striking about all these claims that illegal voting may have occurred is the almost total absence of actual illegal votes identified.  Where are these millions of illegal votes?

 

Your list of accomplishments is full of trivial, destructive and imaginary items.  "Protected Religious Liberties for All American"?  Really?  "Opened First New Coal Mine in Decades"?  Seriously?

 

What about the wall with Mexico?  Tax reform?  Repeal Obamacare?  Defeat ISIS?  How's he doing on these campaign promises?

 

Edit:  I have found one confirmed case of illegal voting.  It was done by Jeffrey Gerrish, Trump’s nominee to be deputy U.S. trade representative.  https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-nominee-apos-illegal-vote-213701118.html 

You sound like a liberal Troll. You ask for evidence and then demand proof. You accept all accusations against Trump as fact, but deny evidence in favour of Trump that hasn't been proven in a court.  And as I said - the list has got nothing .... that you like.

If you reply, dont be surprised if I dont respond - I dont argue with liberal trolls.

 

[Thakkar]

1 hour ago, Skywalker69 said:

Were is the location of this Nambia?

Nambia is where the Bowling Green massacre happened, don’t you know?? 

 

Turn left at the boulder under which Obama has buried his Kenyan birth certificate, past the 3-5 million Soros-financed illegal voters village and across the highway where the tens of thousands of new coal mining jobs are.

 

You are welcome.

[heybruce]

41 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

You sound like a liberal Troll. You ask for evidence and then demand proof. You accept all accusations against Trump as fact, but deny evidence in favour of Trump that hasn't been proven in a court.  And as I said - the list has got nothing .... that you like.

If you reply, dont be surprised if I dont respond - I dont argue with liberal trolls.

 

You offer no evidence of the millions of illegal votes you and Trump claim.  Surely if there were millions of illegal votes you could find a few.  Heck I found one and I wasn't even looking.  Where are your illegal votes?

 

I accept the consensus of US government security agencies that Russia attempted to influence the election, and think that strong evidence of collusion with Trump campaigner staff must be investigated. 

 

I won't be surprised if you don't reply, you have nothing to support your fantasy of millions of illegal votes and Trump has accomplished nothing of consequence other than appoint a conservative to the Supreme court, and undermine American's global reputation.  In short, you have nothing to reply with.

[Thakkar]

1 hour ago, ELVIS123456 said:

You sound like a liberal Troll.

 

Spouting facts is kinda liberal trollish. Annoying, isn’t it?

[Skywalker69]

57 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

Nambia is where the Bowling Green massacre happened, don’t you know?? 

 

Turn left at the boulder under which Obama has buried his Kenyan birth certificate, past the 3-5 million Soros-financed illegal voters village and across the highway where the tens of thousands of new coal mining jobs are.

 

You are welcome.

No I didn´t 

[Rimmer]

Some extreme troll and off topic posts also replies have been removed

[EvenSteven]

4 hours ago, rhodie said:

Why would he need to resign? You have some info that nobody else does? He should resign because you say so? Please enlighten!

I can't imagine where you have been living in the last year, but just about every day there is something about the rogue's conduct that proves he is unfit for the job.  If you can't see it, that's your problem.  Clinging to conspiracy theories may give you some temporary relief, but the days of your fantasy love object in the WH are numbered.  2018 couldn't come soon enough.  Continue your turd polishing until then.

[Thakkar]

6 minutes ago, iReason said:

 

Nonsense.

It was the Deep State coup d'etat abetted by deep cover liberal fed employees.

I think.

 

Well, I read it on here somewhere anyway...

You are wrong. You’ve been eating too many gay frog legs while palling around with those cheese-eating surrender monkeys. If you ate good ‘ol American made cheesy puffs while binging on Fox News you’d know The Deep State is a pleasurable (so I’m told) lesbian sexual position all federal employees are required to learn but never talk about. Wake up, dummy! It all makes sense now, doesn’t it?

[EvenSteven]

5 hours ago, rhodie said:

So an editorial makes him guilty? What planet do you live on?  

Show me the conviction.

Straw man.  Only a grand jury will decide a guilty verdict, and Mueller has started the proceedings for it.  You asked - maybe I should say begged - for evidence of collusion.  I provided it and you didn't even comment on any of the content, which suggests that you didn't even read it nor care about evidence in the first place.  How disingenuous can a person be?

 

Btw, please explain how someone can be convicted during an investigation.  Do you not understand the concept of due process or the rule of law?  In any case, according to your thinking, Hitler, Stalin and Gaddafi must be innocent.  After all, they have not be convicted of anything. I'm not sure you have even heard of the concept of the abuse of power, have you?

Edited September 22, 2017 by EvenSteven

[EvenSteven]

Under growing pressure from Congress and the public to reveal more about the spread of covert Russian propaganda on Facebook, the company said on Thursday that it was turning over more than 3,000 Russia-linked ads to congressional committees investigating the Kremlin’s influence operation during the 2016 presidential campaign.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/technology/facebook-russian-ads.html

[ilostmypassword]

4 hours ago, heybruce said:

Chicago made mistakes on its summary of voter information.  Not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

Some voter registration roles are not up to date, because few people notify the election supervisor when they move or die.  Not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

A small city in Maryland has decided to let non-residents vote in local elections.  Legal, and not proof of illegal voting by anyone.

 

What is striking about all these claims that illegal voting may have occurred is the almost total absence of actual illegal votes identified.  Where are these millions of illegal votes?

 

Your list of accomplishments is full of trivial, destructive and imaginary items.  "Protected Religious Liberties for All American"?  Really?  "Opened First New Coal Mine in Decades"?  Seriously?

 

What about the wall with Mexico?  Tax reform?  Repeal Obamacare?  Defeat ISIS?  How's he doing on these campaign promises?

 

Edit:  I have found one confirmed case of illegal voting.  It was done by Jeffrey Gerrish, Trump’s nominee to be deputy U.S. trade representative.  https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-nominee-apos-illegal-vote-213701118.html 

3 hours ago, ELVIS123456 said:

You sound like a liberal Troll. You ask for evidence and then demand proof. You accept all accusations against Trump as fact, but deny evidence in favour of Trump that hasn't been proven in a court.  And as I said - the list has got nothing .... that you like.

If you reply, dont be surprised if I dont respond - I dont argue with liberal trolls.

 

A troll is a person who engages in some kind of rude behavior. Heybruce's response to you was certainly not rude and referred only to facts. I guess in your mind if someone refutes what you claim then that is trolling. Calling people names without justification is the essence of trolling. You just qualified.

 

 

Edited September 22, 2017 by ilostmypassword

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, EvenSteven said:

Under growing pressure from Congress and the public to reveal more about the spread of covert Russian propaganda on Facebook, the company said on Thursday that it was turning over more than 3,000 Russia-linked ads to congressional committees investigating the Kremlin’s influence operation during the 2016 presidential campaign.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/technology/facebook-russian-ads.html

Yes, and the clown potus (commander in troll) responded with this zinger. 

 

 

[Skywalker69]

42 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes, and the clown potus (commander in troll) responded with this zinger. 

 

 

Sigh!

[Slip]

 

51 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes, and the clown potus (commander in troll) responded with this zinger. 

 

 

http://www.snopes.com/2017/09/21/kremlin-trolls-bots-useful-idiots-russian-propaganda/

 

On 20 September 2017, just hours after a consortium of high-profile figures from the American entertainment industry, news media and intelligence community formally announced the formation of the Committee to Investigate Russia (CIR), social media bots, paid trolls, and “useful idiots” kicked into high gear.

[rhodie]

3 hours ago, EvenSteven said:

I can't imagine where you have been living in the last year, but just about every day there is something about the rogue's conduct that proves he is unfit for the job.  If you can't see it, that's your problem.  Clinging to conspiracy theories may give you some temporary relief, but the days of your fantasy love object in the WH are numbered.  2018 couldn't come soon enough.  Continue your turd polishing until then.

I have been living in a real world where I understand that he has been targeted by the tabloids that you believe and I don't. Lots of accusations and speculation but nothing concrete to convict. Or again, you have something that nobody else has? Give me the link.