webfact Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Thailand succeeds reducing greenhouse gas emission below limit BANGKOK, 12 June 2017 (NNT) – Thailand has successfully limited its greenhouse gas emission to be under the target amount as pledged at the UNFCC COP21, aiming to incorporate the industrial and waste sectors within this year. The Office of Natural Resources and Environmental Policy and Planning's (ONEP) Secretary-General Raweewon Bhuridej has said Thailand is now on track with the reduction of greenhouse gas, according to the country's Nationally Appropriate Mitigation Actions (NAMAs), aiming to cut down at least 7-10 percent of emissions by 2020. In 2015, the country succeeded in reducing emissions by 11 percent which is better than its target, with most reduction from the energy and transportation sector. The ONEP is now collecting data from Ministry of Energy for this year's evaluation. Thailand has pledged to reduce its greenhouse emission by 20-25 percent by the year 2030 at the 2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP 21) in Paris, France. The country aims push for the Nationally Determined Contributions (NDC) to reach the 2030 reduction goal by including more industries in the emission reduction effort, particularly cement production, air conditioning, refrigerator, and compressor manufacturing by encouraging manufacturers to use coolants with the lowest Global Warming Potential (GWP) value. Thailand is a major exporter of air conditioning units and electronics to the global markets. ONEP will also work with steel manufacturers to find a way to reduce energy consumption in steel manufacturing and to reuse the heat from manufacturing. It will also include the waste sector in the effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. -- nnt 2017-06-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 It can't be below levels in Bangkok and Chiang Mai surely !! The hub of low emissions ! Another first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Always marvel at those large trucks that run on natural gas. That it is a wonderful idea along with the CNG taxis in Bangkok. Now if people in Bangkok could just stop littering and recycle more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Since when have measurements made in Thailand by Thai people been reliable? Or honest? It's way more likely that emissions are up, and this is just another face saving lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Yep........Definitely improving...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 That´s good progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyT Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 And in the rest of the country the rice fields are still burning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 would be impressive if it was true. did the good general order emissions to reduce? if so it is good to finally see an order of his being obeyed, or was this achieved by lowering the price of petrol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 im surprised they even know what ''greenhouse gases really are'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 WOW------- I would have thought that with the UNFCC the ONEP the NAMA the UNCCC theUDC and of course not forgetting the M of E all getting together they must surely come up with something !!!!!!!! Maybe even some sort of improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Why bother? According to Trump it's all hearsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Well, it would have taken more than Prawit's absence to have achieved that. A number of members of government must have been AWOL at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickb Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 The OP doesn't make sense to me. The target to reduce emissions by 2020 must be referenced against something. Are they targeting to reduce the emissions by 7-10% of the 2015 emissions level? If so, then their reduction of 11% in 2015 is irrelevant. Also, the COP21 was signed in 2015, so how can Thailand take credit for reducing emissions in the year of the agreement, again unless the agreement references some other time as the reference point. Any improvement is good for the environment. Too bad the agreement didn't get significant reductions from major polluters like China and India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maewang99 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) folks.... COP21 was fake. and it was James Hansen who said that. "a fraud". it was ****designed**** for politicians to make exactly these kinds of claims, i.e. Obama and Hillary. James Hansen. not Pruitt. not Trump. and certainly not Big Oil. they support the Paris accord. that's a clue too???? helloooooo?????? COP21's base lines are all like this.... what you really want, to feel good and be a smart and 'responsible' guy or gal at the same time.... is EXACTLY this kind of fake news.... plus.... how about another Leonardo Dicaprio or Harrison Ford film showing Fires In Indonesia and Ice Slowly Melting in...... Greenland? or the Inventor of the Internet VP Al Gore, Mr. Newly Optmistic.... in an election year? yeah, he had some factoids to hang a hat on... he always does... but somehow they are always ones that involve something quite nuanced as well and.... yet he doesn't ever get into the ****really**** scary atmospheric chemistry and physics stuff. for that.... besides half a brain.... you need James Hansen or U Manchester's Kevin Anderson.... but we are not any more likely to see anything but a 2 minute clip on those guys than we are Noam Chomsky.... all for the exact same reason. and that's why those of us who are as green as Greenpeace... love Donald Trump. if Big Oil has anyone in their pocket.... it is the "Dems" and...... much of Hollywood, of course. and politicians that use this nonsense to help us feel better....as we go over the cliff.... or we hit a win on negative emission to scale .. but real soon. that it ain't about 2525 but more like 2050 is not something you would ever hear from Hilary or Bernie. the G7 or whatever when Pruitt got called away almost as soon as he landed two days ago was the exact same kind of nonsense. Paris was fake. a fraud. go Trump go! Edited June 12, 2017 by maewang99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 The Thai Army are closing down all Thai Greenhouses as soon as they have moved all the Deck Chairs..?Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al007 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Very dubious claim look who makes it Look at all the other false claims Look at the millions of fires with the rice fields being burnt, the claim just can not be factual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said: did the good general order emissions to reduce? ...or was the order more about reduction of inconvenient reports about emission, if one wants to apply for and keep a journalist license? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 CO2 in the atmosphere: 0.038% Manmade CO2: 4% => 0.038 x 0.04 = 0.00152% Thailands part in CO2: Less than 1% => 0.00152 x 0.01 = 0.0000152% So, the influence of Thailand to the atmosphere in terms of CO2 is 0.000 015% To reduce this by 20% means: 0.000 015 x 0.2 = 0.000 003% Next anybody tells me is that when I pee into the ocean I change thew ocean !!! Climate professionals around the world coming forward on what Hoax this whole story is ... it's all about money and control !!! [Just for the Info: There is no climate scientist left on the IPCC as they all left due to the non existing science !!!] Who ever still believes this nonsense has some serious issues with 3rd grade mathematics and 5th grade physics and chemistry !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 8 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand has pledged to reduce its greenhouse emission by 20-25 percent by the year 2030 at the 2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP 21) in Paris, France. On the other hand, "in terms of the Paris Agreement pledge, no concrete roadmap has been prepared by the Thai government thus resulting in delays in the ratification process." (August 2016) http://climatescorecard.org/2016/08/30/thailand-emission-reduction-challenges/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 53 minutes ago, brain150 said: CO2 in the atmosphere: 0.038% Manmade CO2: 4% => 0.038 x 0.04 = 0.00152% Thailands part in CO2: Less than 1% => 0.00152 x 0.01 = 0.0000152% So, the influence of Thailand to the atmosphere in terms of CO2 is 0.000 015% To reduce this by 20% means: 0.000 015 x 0.2 = 0.000 003% Another source for numerial analysis: "Thailand’s national greenhouse gas emissions were only 0.84% of global emissions in 2012, and in 2015 it was 0.64% of global emissions." (August 2016) http://climatescorecard.org/2016/08/30/thailand-emission-reduction-challenges/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 8 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand has successfully limited its greenhouse gas emission to be under the target amount as pledged at the UNFCC COP21, aiming to incorporate the industrial and waste sectors within this year. Versus the GreenWatch Publication, The Climate Change Performance Index that shows Thailand's ranking has worsened every year from 24th in 2012 to 49th in 2016. From 2014 to 2015 saw the worst increase in Thailand's rank going from 38th to 47th. Climate_Change_Performance_Index_2016.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Reducing political-activity means less hot-air released into the atmosphere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Figures supplied from resources of Minister Kobkarn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Yeah right, never seen so many people burning rubbish and the grass verge outside their homes along with sugarcane crops b4 cutting anywhere else in the world. Locals seem to love a fire, but I guess these do not count as emissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just.a.thought Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 An easy way would be to reward people for installing solar panels on the roof and make it easier to sell back the excess electricity produced. As it is now it is next to impossible to get an agreement with the power company and that is downright idiotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Can we get external verification please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Replacing all those methane producing buffaloes with clean, efficient benzene powered rice field tillers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 4 hours ago, just.a.thought said: An easy way would be to reward people for installing solar panels on the roof and make it easier to sell back the excess electricity produced. As it is now it is next to impossible to get an agreement with the power company and that is downright idiotic Well, it's not idiotic at all as the power grid does not need or want solar energy as it's way to unpredictable for the grid ! Loading solar energy from small solar systems into the grid is simply a government subsidy [paid by other Grid users!] Solar energy the way we use it now is NOT friendly to the environment as the solar system as a whole has a negative energy balance and as such is not sustainable ! Basically it's the wrong technology for what it's used for [the way we use it]. It's simple propaganda ! [just like wind energy !!!] Environmental friendly energy is known for more than 100 years ... just ask yourself why engines running on Alcohol or compressed air are basically made illegal ! [Just a hint: It's not because they are more dangerous than gasoline engines !!!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Secretary-General Raweewon Bhuridej said they are on track? Things could still go off the rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just.a.thought Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 hours ago, brain150 said: Well, it's not idiotic at all as the power grid does not need or want solar energy as it's way to unpredictable for the grid ! Loading solar energy from small solar systems into the grid is simply a government subsidy [paid by other Grid users!] Solar energy the way we use it now is NOT friendly to the environment as the solar system as a whole has a negative energy balance and as such is not sustainable ! Basically it's the wrong technology for what it's used for [the way we use it]. It's simple propaganda ! [just like wind energy !!!] Environmental friendly energy is known for more than 100 years ... just ask yourself why engines running on Alcohol or compressed air are basically made illegal ! [Just a hint: It's not because they are more dangerous than gasoline engines !!!] The buy back system works very well in Europe, it doesn't have to be subsidized by the government. Not having a buy back program requires you to have a large battery bank in order to store excess electricity. A buy back program makes sense especially in the tropics where production peaks during daylight when everyone has their air conditioning switched on. The only hardware requirements for a buy back program is a power meter that runs both ways. The power companies are not interested because it threatens their monopoly on power production. Guess countries like Denmark are masters of propaganda since they and other countries can cover their entire power requirements through wind and solar power when the conditions are favorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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