webfact Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 U.S. arrests nearly 200 Iraqis in deportation sweep DETROIT (Reuters) - U.S. immigration authorities have arrested and moved to deport 199 Iraqi immigrants, mostly from the Detroit area, in the last three weeks after Iraq agreed to accept deportees as part of a deal removing it from President Donald Trump's travel ban, officials said on Wednesday. In the Detroit area, 114 Iraqi nationals were arrested over the weekend, and 85 throughout the rest of the country over the past several weeks, Gillian Christensen, a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman, said in a statement. The actions came as part of the Trump administration's push to increase immigration enforcement and make countries, which have resisted in the past, take back nationals ordered deported from the United States. The crackdown on Iraqi immigrants followed the U.S. government's decision to drop Iraq from a list of Muslim-majority nations targeted by a revised version of Trump's temporary travel ban issued in March. The overwhelming majority of those arrested had criminal convictions for crimes including murder, rape, assault, kidnapping, burglary, drug trafficking, weapons violations and other offences, Christensen said. As of April 17, 2017, there were 1,444 Iraqi nationals with final orders for removal, she said. Since the March 12 agreement with Iraq regarding deportees, eight Iraqi nationals have been removed to Iraq. Dozens of Iraqi Chaldean Catholics in Detroit were among those targeted in the immigration sweeps, some of whom fear they will be killed if deported to their home country, immigration attorneys and family members said. “It is very worrisome that ICE has signalled its intention to remove Chaldean Christians to Iraq where their safety not only cannot be guaranteed, but where they face persecution and death for their religious beliefs,” Martin Manna, president of the Chaldean Community Foundation, said in a statement on Wednesday. Kurdish Iraqis also were picked up in Nashville, Tennessee, attorneys, activists and family members said. At least some of those arrested came to the United States as children, got in trouble and already served their sentences, according to immigration attorneys and activists. Some have lived in the United States so long they no longer speak Arabic. An Iraqi official previously said Iraqi diplomatic and consular missions would coordinate with U.S. authorities to issue travel documents for the deportees. (Reporting by Ben Klayman; Editing by Tom Brown) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-06-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) A good start? It appears that some had better start learning Arabic. I'll they know the written numerals already, at least. They should let the Chaldean Catholics w/o criminal records stay as refugees. Edited June 15, 2017 by MaxYakov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySlipper Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Jesus! How is it they know they are criminals yet let them enter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Off-topic post removed. 10 minutes ago, LazySlipper said: Jesus! How is it they know they are criminals yet let them enter... They did not enter with a criminal record. The crimes were committed after they arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: which have resisted in the past, take back nationals ordered deported from the United States. those countries can do that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, YetAnother said: those countries can do that ? Governments control entry so, 'Yes", Government to government agreement has to be in place to permit deportation against a person's will, an example is the OP. Edited June 15, 2017 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 it should be in every country "if you commit a serious crime" then you are automatically deported case closed and no re-entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, MaxYakov said: A good start? It appears that some had better start learning Arabic. I'll they know the written numerals already, at least. They should let the Chaldean Catholics w/o criminal records stay as refugees. If Trump tries to treat the Christians differently the courts would surely step in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Oohrah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, LazySlipper said: Jesus! How is it they know they are criminals yet let them enter... The crimes were committed in the US and not before, however many of those with criminal pasts moved to the US as children, grew up in the states and served their time for their crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 4 hours ago, MaxYakov said: A good start? It appears that some had better start learning Arabic. I'll they know the written numerals already, at least. They should let the Chaldean Catholics w/o criminal records stay as refugees. Why should your religion be grounds for preferential treatment? Should atheists go to the head of the cue, after all the US could use a little rationality? Face it, if your from a muslim country, even if you are a muslim, there's bound to be someone there that hates you because of your professed belief. And if there isn't, you can always convert for the benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, halloween said: Why should your religion be grounds for preferential treatment? Should atheists go to the head of the cue, after all the US could use a little rationality? Face it, if your from a muslim country, even if you are a muslim, there's bound to be someone there that hates you because of your professed belief. And if there isn't, you can always convert for the benefits. Their religion should not make a difference and the only thing that might influence a decision to deport would be if they face persecution. No doubt being returned to Iraq would result in discrimination, but I don't know that it would amount to persecution. Even if it did, I don't know that they could apply for asylum of something they think might happen unless it is well documented. For example, the beheading of the atheist in Saudi Arabia a while ago might result in a stay on a deportation order. At any rate, I don't think there is a legal case for them other than a request to remain under humanitarian grounds and the prevailing attitude might preclude that from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolutionary Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Regardless of religion. If they have commuted the crime then deport them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, Revolutionary said: Regardless of religion. If they have commuted the crime then deport them. If their crimes were commuted, then they shouldn't be deported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Good Job. Europe could learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, alocacoc said: Good Job. Europe could learn from it. As an example UK, as does Australia, deport convicted criminals for repeat or serious offences at completion of sentence so long as government to government agreements are in-place as per the OP. UK has deported hundreds as has Oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I don't think this will bode well for our military personnel in Iraq. Iraqis are well informed people. Iran is working for the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people, and like reversal of adding Iraqis from the travel ban, this may be another ill advised action of a dysfunctional government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Redline said: I don't think this will bode well for our military personnel in Iraq. Iraqis are well informed people. Iran is working for the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people, and like reversal of adding Iraqis from the travel ban, this may be another ill advised action of a dysfunctional government Crap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 59 minutes ago, transam said: Crap.... Don't talk about yourself like that. Did you serve in Iraq, or do you know anyone who has? I don't know much about you, but your answer matches your one word vocabulary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToS2014 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 9 hours ago, dieseldave1951 said: it should be in every country "if you commit a serious crime" then you are automatically deported case closed and no re-entry Agree. Too bad it works the exact opposite for those 'quality' tourists in safe haven states like, errr ahem...well you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon4546543 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 14 hours ago, Revolutionary said: Regardless of religion. If they have commuted the crime then deport them. Err, you got commuted and committed mixed up. I wish I had such simple mix ups. Does a child who has committed minor crime, but since become a model citizen need be deported. However, I do recognise the problem. It comes from mixing cultures by just throwing granted migrants into mainstream western countries without any support. Check Melbourne Australia. Australian government agencies welcomed so called refugees from Somalia, Sudan and others from near the "Horn of Africa" Since then petty and really serious crime has broken out from the children of these so called "refugees" all across Melbourne. The African gangs are out of control. "We cannot control our children" the parents wail. "Our children have too much freedom" If we did not have them, there would be no need to send them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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