Image of the United States has plunged under Trump, survey shows

[losworld]

31 minutes ago, puck2 said:

And now Trump's newest verbal  excess against journalists, Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough, "Crazy Mika" und "Psycho Joe", show again that this man does not have self control. And such a man is able to press the atomic bottom.

 

That and other very negative qualities of its president should not lead to the result that the image of the US has plunged ?

 

 

Yeah he should avoid the personal attacks but really can't blame it when you have a media talking about assassinating him, insulting him and his family, etc  He is pissed off.  Who wouldn't be.

[attrayant]

4 hours ago, CutiePi said:

Name one action the President has done that has hurt anyone. All I see are steps to protect the country and free people from burdensome regulations.

 

What about openly encouraging people at his campaign rallies to physically assault any protesters, which resulted in people at his campaign rallies actually assaulting protesters.  He even offered additional incentive, saying that if anyone assaulted a protester on his behalf, Trump would cover their legal fees.

Edited June 30, 2017 by attrayant

[attrayant]

1 minute ago, losworld said:

Yeah he should avoid the personal attacks but really can't blame it when you have a media talking about assassinating him, insulting him and his family, etc  He is pissed off.  Who wouldn't be.

 

Right, remember how Obama went on a Twitter rampage after people burned and hanged him in effigy?  Yeah, neither do I.

[dutchisaan]

22 minutes ago, losworld said:

Yeah he should avoid the personal attacks but really can't blame it when you have a media talking about assassinating him, insulting him and his family, etc  He is pissed off.  Who wouldn't be.

What media is talking about assassinating Trump? Did I miss some important news, or is the fake news you like to commend on?

But you know what, sorry if the donald is pissed off. If this narcissistic clown off a want to be president thinks it's ok to insult everyone that doesn't agree with his childish behavior, than he better moves backto his tower in NY.

There he can bs everyone around him and nobody will give a sh*t.

[Thakkar]

2 hours ago, losworld said:

The Washed Up Post is a political paper designed to work against Trump?  Why because it is owned by Bezos and Trump has in the past talked openly about enforcing anti trust against monopolies such as Amazon which is a good thing.  You need to wake up.

 

You seem misinformed as to what a monopoly is.

Amazon is far from being one. Even after their purchase of Wholefoods, Amazon controls about 20% of ecommerece. Ecommerece itself is only 15% of the consumer market, which means Amazon have about 3% of the consumer market.

 

Amazon *is* dominant in certain sectors, like books. And here, it was misguided government interference (against Apple and in favor of Amazon) that actually made them more dominant than they would've been. The lesson from that debacle is that, despite Amazon's twenty year history, ecommerece is still in its infancy and the prudent approach would be to let the market play out for a while before considering any intervention. You can't break up something that, while seemingly large, is still a small part of a much, much larger whole.

 

Trump is The President, not some bottled water salesman. Blustery, uninformed rants against companies or market sectors can destabilize markets and entire economies in a cascade of connected shocks.

 

Presidents get criticized no matter what they do, or don't do. Some of that criticism will be unfair—that's par for the course. If Trump doesn't understand that, he should never have applied for the job. He belongs to the public; his time belongs to the public. He can't be spending it lashing out wildly at every critic.

 

T

 

[Jingthing]

He's bullshit in a china shop.

[Ace of Pop]

Only in the eyes of Ilegais n benefit Bums .?[emoji383]


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[Thaidream]

The Trump supporters can't seem to understand this man is destroying everything your mother and father worked for as well as your  grandparents and their parents. There is no American dream with Trump and his agenda and there is no respect from other Nations for Trump and his selfish rhetoric.. 

It doesn't matter how much his core supporters sing his praises- he has lost all Democrat and Independent support and his Republican support is cracking. He would be smart and resign for 'health reasons'-  He can save face and go back to running his real estate empire .

[bushdoctor]

4 hours ago, dutchisaan said:

I wonder where you get your information from.

1.The Paris accord didn't cost the USA billions.

2. The infratructure will cost a lot of money to take care of, I agree. However if you want a trillion dollars for it, than you have to have a plan to get a trillion dollar, and you don't get this by giving big tax breaks to the super rich.

3. At least CNN will retract a story that was false, good for them. Now everybody else is just waiting for a retraction from the Donald about;

President Obama wire tapped me!

The Comey tapes!

Only I can take care of healthcare!

I will take care of taxes, nobody understand taxes more than I do!

I will never play as much golf as Obama. I will be to busy to leave the WH!

I'm the only one that can defead isis!

Etc, etc, etc!

 

I can go on for a other hour of so, but people like you don't care one little bit.

So once again,

Where do you get your information from?

 

 

 

Yes I'm sure you can go on for hours ?

 

You say the Paris accord didn't cost the US billions....that's because Trump pulled out. The agreement called for the US to give billions. It's super easy to look at the Paris accord for yourself if you want he real information. 

 

On the infrastructure plan, it's clear you don't know much about it. It would be wiser to research it first and then post your opinions.

 

CNN had no choice but to retract after being threatened with multi-million dollar lawsuit. They outright lied and made up their own news, quoting unknown sources. This isn't honest journalism. 

 

 

 

 

[simple1]

2 hours ago, losworld said:

The Washed Up Post is a political paper designed to work against Trump?  Why because it is owned by Bezos and Trump has in the past talked openly about enforcing anti trust against monopolies such as Amazon which is a good thing.  You need to wake up.

Really - check out the the guy Trump nominated for anti trust. 

 

From 2005 through January of this year, Delrahim was a partner at Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck LLP, where he lobbied the government to garner support for deals such as Google Inc.'s $3.1 billion tie-up with DoubleClick Inc. and Anthem Inc.'s troubled $54 billion merger with Cigna Corp.

Edited June 30, 2017 by simple1

[Jingthing]

Only in the eyes of Ilegais n benefit Bums .?[emoji383]


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Nope. In the eyes of most of the world.

[Thakkar]

3 hours ago, losworld said:

Bullshit Trump's main thrust is to break up the insurance monopoly screwing working americans and supported by Obama's half baked plan.  Trump is more a liberal than anything if you care to do a bit of thinking and research.  Trump has proposed allowing someone to opt out of insurance.  Why should an umemployed or poor American be fined fro not having insurance he cannot afford?

 

We all know the real solution is a well managed single payer government run health plan similar to Canada and other countries but it is a huge task to bring to light with the corruption and payoffs in Washington.  Interestingly in the past Trump has supported such an idea.  Where was Obama on this?  Wake up.

 

 

Agree that Obamacare is half-baked. There is a reason for that. Obama began his presidency as a consensus-builder. With a majority in both houses during his first two years, he could've rammed through a single-payer system. His plan is Hal-baked because, to bring Republicans on board, he adopted a plan first proposed by the right wing Heritage Foundation and adopted by Republican Mitt Romney while getting Vernon of Massachusetts. It's half-baked because Obama took on board numerous amendments proposed by Republican legislators (even then they voted against it en masse).

 

You are right that Trump once supported Single Payer and seemly did so again during an interview as president elect. Recently, not so much. In fact, he praised the House plan and held a small victory celebration after its passing. He later called the revised Senate plan, which was less mean than the House plans, "mean"

 

He is all over the place. And it's not because he's playing some brilliant 3D chess; it's because he's an imbecilic agnostic—he doesn't really care.

 

T

 

[Luckysilk]

10 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

The Trump supporters can't seem to understand this man is destroying everything your mother and father worked for as well as your  grandparents and their parents. There is no American dream with Trump and his agenda and there is no respect from other Nations for Trump and his selfish rhetoric.. 

It doesn't matter how much his core supporters sing his praises- he has lost all Democrat and Independent support and his Republican support is cracking. He would be smart and resign for 'health reasons'-  He can save face and go back to running his real estate empire .

Jeeez what a crock.

 

My parents retired extremely well off as did my grandparents because they worked hard and invested wisely. 

 

That is the America I want, work & save not a social state with freebies for the fatties and lazy asses. 

 

I also dont give a damn what the rest of the world thinks about us, we've been hated before and survived - America First

 

With all the lefts name calling and hysteria I'm glad your losing sleep over President Trump and some fools on the left ranting day and night just makes us deaf. 

P

[Jingthing]

Obamacare was more about helping the poor but the middle class in the private market got hit badly. trumpcare is largely about punishing the poor to benefit the rich. Any B.S trump said in the campaign is ancient history now. He's a con man.

[bushdoctor]

6 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

 

Agree that Obamacare is half-baked. There is a reason for that. Obama began his presidency as a consensus-builder. With a majority in both houses during his first two years, he could've rammed through a single-payer system. His plan is Hal-baked because, to bring Republicans on board, he adopted a plan first proposed by the right wing Heritage Foundation and adopted by Republican Mitt Romney while getting Vernon of Massachusetts. It's half-baked because Obama took on board numerous amendments proposed by Republican legislators (even then they voted against it en masse).

 

You are right that Trump once supported Single Payer and seemly did so again during an interview as president elect. Recently, not so much. In fact, he praised the House plan and held a small victory celebration after its passing. He later called the revised Senate plan, which was less mean than the House plans, "mean"

 

He is all over the place. And it's not because he's playing some brilliant 3D chess; it's because he's an imbecilic agnostic—he doesn't really care.

 

T

 

There was not one single Republican on board. There was a total of zero Republican votes for it. 

Edited June 30, 2017 by bushdoctor
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[tropo]

The Trump supporters can't seem to understand this man is destroying everything your mother and father worked for as well as your  grandparents and their parents. There is no American dream with Trump and his agenda and there is no respect from other Nations for Trump and his selfish rhetoric.. 
It doesn't matter how much his core supporters sing his praises- he has lost all Democrat and Independent support and his Republican support is cracking. He would be smart and resign for 'health reasons'-  He can save face and go back to running his real estate empire .

Lol> stop sobbing and dry your tears.


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[Thakkar]

4 minutes ago, bushdoctor said:

9 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

 

Agree that Obamacare is half-baked. There is a reason for that. Obama began his presidency as a consensus-builder. With a majority in both houses during his first two years, he could've rammed through a single-payer system. His plan is Hal-baked because, to bring Republicans on board, he adopted a plan first proposed by the right wing Heritage Foundation and adopted by Republican Mitt Romney while getting Vernon of Massachusetts. It's half-baked because Obama took on board numerous amendments proposed by Republican legislators (even then they voted against it en masse).

 

You are right that Trump once supported Single Payer and seemly did so again during an interview as president elect. Recently, not so much. In fact, he praised the House plan and held a small victory celebration after its passing. He later called the revised Senate plan, which was less mean than the House plans, "mean"

 

He is all over the place. And it's not because he's playing some brilliant 3D chess; it's because he's an imbecilic agnostic—he doesn't really care.

 

T

 

There was not one single Republican on board. There was a total of zero Republican votes for it. 

 

Read carefully my bolded part. You are triumphantly repeating what I already said.

 

T

[Jingthing]

Obamacare was a republican idea. It's basically Romney care made national.

[bushdoctor]

17 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

Read carefully my bolded part. You are triumphantly repeating what I already said.

 

T

 

You also said Obama's plan was half baked to bring republicans on board. No republican was on board, they never were. It's silly to try to somehow place blame for the law on republicans. Obama rammed it through with out a single republican....he owns it. 

Edited June 30, 2017 by bushdoctor

[Jingthing]

Obamacare was debated for a very long time and open to republican input and amendments. trumpcare is totally backroom deals being steamrolled.

 

The fact that Republican states were allowed to not do expanded Medicaid by Scotus weakened it.

 

Since the clown was elected he has been intentionally sabotaging Obamacare.

 

[Thakkar]

17 minutes ago, bushdoctor said:

 

You also said Obama's plan was half baked to bring republicans on board. No republican was on board, they never were. It's silly to try to somehow place blame for the law on republicans. Obama rammed it through with out a single republican....he owns it. 

You are being disingenuous. I didn't say "Obamas plan was half baked to bring republicans on board." as you claim above.

 

What I said was: 

"His plan is Hal-baked (sic) because, to bring Republicans on board, he adopted a plan first proposed by the right wing Heritage Foundation and ...It's half-baked because Obama took on board numerous amendments proposed by Republican legislators (even then they voted against it en masse)."

 

btw! Obama is the first to admits that the ACA needs improvement. What republicans and Trump are doing is not trying to improve it, but repeal it and its tax provisions as a means to fund a tax cut for the wealthy. 

[RobFord]

Keep drinking the kool aid Rob.  

Lol. Be proud Trump supporter.




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[bushdoctor]

If Obama "weakened" his own healthcare plan to bring republicans on board...he failed miserably. 

[cocteau2x]

I can see this thread going on FOREVER .

With no one ever changing their minds..

.. kind of like the GLOBAL WARMING/ CLIMATE CHANGE thread

Does anyone EVER change their minds about these things .

 

Read the comments on any Yahoo news article about Trump (or climate change) .. and you will see them all repeated here ..

 

I am CERTAIN that Trump is a f#@!ed up individual .

A "bad" human being ..

A narcissist and a bully ..

Totally fck-d up .. his wife even hates him ..

 

But/and .. no amount of other people's opinions will ever sway me ..

..

As I believe is the truth for everyone else on this topic..

 

So.. I will definately never read this thread again .

Though I will be interested in how long it goes on ..

4 more years? ..

God .. let's hope not

 

Someone PM me if any arguements/opinions on this thread change your mind ..

I will buy you a bottle of Johnny Walker and pay your Bf at any 3 soi 6 bars ..

 

Pointless

 

Edit... wow .. who would have thought a board dedicated to buying pussy would censor the word .

F#$ked ... ????

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[Jingthing]

If Obama "weakened" his own healthcare plan to bring republicans on board...he failed miserably. 

He barely was able to pass what he did with democrats. Let's focus on where we are at now. Millions of American lives are on the line.

 

 

Suggest people stop discussing trumpcare here. There are other topics for that.

 

 

[bushdoctor]

2 minutes ago, cocteau2x said:

I can see this thread going on FOREVER .
With no one ever changing their minds..
.. kind of like the GLOBAL WARMING/ CLIMATE CHANGE thread
Does anyone EVER change their minds about these things .

Read the comments on any Yahoo news article about Trump (or climate change) .. and you will see them all repeated here ..

I am CERTAIN that Trump is a <deleted> up individual .
A "bad" human being ..
A narcissist and a bully ..
Totally <deleted> up .. his wife even hates him ..

But/and .. no amount of other people's opinions will ever sway me ..
..
As I believe is the truth for everyone else on this topic..

So.. I will definately never read this thread again .
Though I will be interested in how long it goes on ..
4 more years? ..
God .. let's hope not

Someone PM me if any arguements/opinions on this thread change your mind ..
I will buy you a bottle of Johnny Walker and pay your Bf at any 3 soi 6 bars ..

Pointless

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I changed my mind ?

[Thakkar]

14 minutes ago, bushdoctor said:

If Obama "weakened" his own healthcare plan to bring republicans on board...he failed miserably. 

 

He failed, but not miserably. He failed on the side of trying to build consensus, and, in his failure, showed those paying attention that the next time round, the only real option is single payer universal healthcare. The unreasonable republican opposition has done more to bring more Americans 'round to the idea of universal healthcare than any Democratic Party campaign. It was why Sanders was  able to openly run on such a platform—a platform unthinkable for any American politician a decade ago.

 

States like California are on the verge of having their own universal healthcare. Other states will likely follow.

 

I suspect that, secretly, Obama is smiling.

 

Let's just hope that in the meantime, as few people as possible (ideally,  one) are hurt by the current three all-republican branches of government.

 

T

 

[cocteau2x]

I changed my mind [emoji39]

Lol ... I AM pretty persuasive ..

Made me laugh out loud for sure .. and I have 3 broken ribs at the moment .
Hurts
Lol .. thanks a lot .. lol


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[beautifulthailand99]

On 27/06/2017 at 9:33 AM, tomwct said:

No just the opposite! The silent majority is rockin' now and will continue for the next 8 years. Obama was taking us down the Socialist Europe Route and bankrupting us on the way. That has come to a stop! In two years everything Obama did will be reversed and America's Economy will be booming! God Bless America, while we make America Great Again. We are 5-0 in elections since President Trump took over! The Progressive Socialists Democrats of America (PSDA) are in decline and

will be for the foreseeable future. Looks like Hillary & Bernie maybe going to jail and not President Trump.

Crikey and you're one with a passport I assume. Anyway you're feeling good right - and that's all that matters , hey. God help the world.

Edited June 30, 2017 by beautifulthailand99

[Thaidream]

It never ceases to amaze me how Trump supporters answer back by attacking those of us personally who bring up cogent answers to why we do not like the Trump agenda. Oh....that's right..... Mr Trump himself answers his critics the same way....by attacking them personally and providing no answer as to what is wrong with the healthcare bill; building a useless wall; deporting immigrants who have no police record  etc, etc.

 

I finally got it- the Trump supporters have the same demeanor as their demagogue- they are also mean; nasty; without any substance and can't make a cogent argument, I don't know how they will survive when Trump has to resign or impeached. Actually- I do.  They will blame it all on us.