CDC: New Constitution aims to promote police efficiency

[webfact]

CDC: New Constitution aims to promote police efficiency

 

BANGKOK, 7th July 2017 (NNT) - The Constitutional Drafting Commission has stated that the new charter has been drafted in such a way as to help the police force to become more efficient than ever. 

CDC Chairman Meechai Ruchuphan said on Thursday that the intent of the new Constitution, especially in the area of reform of the police force, has been an effort to persuade law enforcement officers to commit to their mission with the use of all knowledge and capabilities, instead of getting engaged in lobbying to get a promotion or being under the control of influential individuals outside the force. 

Mr. Meechai stated that the committee in charge of the reform of the police will have to pay attention to all aspects of the force in order to achieve the overhaul plan. 

In related news, the CDC Chairman declined to comment on the President of the Election Commission’s suggestion that all existing commissioners be permitted to remain in office should the Constitutional Court rule that the draft law on the Election Commission be dropped.

 

-- nnt 2017-07-07

[seajae]

what are they going to do, force the police to actually do their job and enforce the laws, very doubtful, stop them from getting their tea money, very doubtful, make them follow the laws themselves, very doubtful. actually pay then a decent wage so they dont have to be involved in graft etc, very doubtful. The only way the thai police can be pulled into line is to remove all the corrupt aspects that are entrenched in it currently, one does not have to look very hard to see that there is a lot of corruption involved with those in charge and in the ranks but then again this is true with all govt jobs, efficiency cannot start till they have them doing what they are actually paid for

Edited July 7, 2017 by seajae

[Reigntax]

This new constitution apparently does everything except restore democracy and represnt the people it was imposed apon, then modified to suit the heir general.

[ba ba]

14 minutes ago, seajae said:

what are they going to do, force the police to actually do their job and enforce the laws, very doubtful, stop them from getting their tea money, very doubtful, make them follow the laws themselves, very doubtful. actually pay then a decent wage so they dont have to be involved in graft etc, very doubtful. The only way the thai police can be pulled into line is to remove all the corrupt aspects that are entrenched in it currently, one does not have to look very hard to see that there is a lot of corruption involved with those in charge and in the ranks but then again this is true with all govt jobs, efficiency cannot start till they have them doing what they are actually paid for

didn't a certain P.M tell the police to make up there wage with tea money

[aussiehat]

Unfortunately corruption is part of the culture will never change

[debate101]

You only need to read "an effort to persuade" and we can already see that it will be a failure. Accountability? Consequences? Not as long as they are doing the bidding of the powers that be.

Edited July 7, 2017 by debate101

[Emster23]

Let's hope they don't adopt the "Philippine model"

[Lupatria]

It seems much more promising to order a char-coaled corpse to stop smoking in bed from now on.

[klauskunkel]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

New Constitution aims to promote police efficiency

Yes, you need a constitution for this to happen. Now, what about the Postal Service, they could use some help, too. Oh well, there is always amendments...

[Cadbury]

1 hour ago, Emster23 said:

Let's hope they don't adopt the "Philippine model"

The one where the President Duterte personally throws corrupt government officials out of a helicopter.

Perhaps this is what the new Blackhawks are going to be used for.........just joking!

[Dogmatix]

New Constitution aims to promote police efficiency.

[Dogmatix]

4 hours ago, ba ba said:

didn't a certain P.M tell the police to make up there wage with tea money

 

Yes, and a certain interior minister, Chalerm by name, told the police it was OK to demand red pockets from businesses at Chinese New Year after some Chinatown shopkeepers complained to the media.   

Edited July 7, 2017 by Dogmatix

[Dogmatix]

5 hours ago, seajae said:

what are they going to do, force the police to actually do their job and enforce the laws, very doubtful, stop them from getting their tea money, very doubtful, make them follow the laws themselves, very doubtful. actually pay then a decent wage so they dont have to be involved in graft etc, very doubtful. The only way the thai police can be pulled into line is to remove all the corrupt aspects that are entrenched in it currently, one does not have to look very hard to see that there is a lot of corruption involved with those in charge and in the ranks but then again this is true with all govt jobs, efficiency cannot start till they have them doing what they are actually paid for

 

It was done in Singapore after LKY took over.  The old style colonial police force left behind by the British was nowhere near as corrupt and murderous as Thai police but also nowhere near the standards of British police it was sort of modelled on.  Corruption was fairly rife at all levels.  I had a Singaporean friend who transferred to the Singapore police from the British Naval Police when the British left their naval base.  There nightly patrols comprised of collecting brown envelopes from illegal mah jong gambling debts and brothels (the brothels were allowed to pay in kind).  Then the People's Action Party govt gave the police a year's notice it was going to be shaken up hard and there would be a zero  tolerance policy towards corruption. Anyone who didn't like the idea was free to resign without shame on favourable terms.  Those who decided to stay got significantly improved pay and conditions.  My friend told me that some of his police mates didn't believe they were serious and all of them went to jail.  Within a year of the new policy Singapore had a squeaky clean police force and a number of ex-cops were inside with their former customers. 

 

With 200,000 armed, corrupt police in Thailand well financed and connected at the senior level, who would be determined to defend their rights and privileges to steal, extort, murder, rape and pillage with impunity, this would be a daunting task for any Thai government.  In fact it would not be even worth thinking about for a regular civilian government.   The only type of government that could even think about it is a military government that has more fire power than the police and men that be drafted in to replace police in the event of mutiny.   The current government reversed its initial stance on police reform early on and said it would leave it to the next government, i.e. make sure it cannot be done at all.  So their views are pretty clear.  This will be a whitewash with some meaningless pseudo-reforms and/or reasonable sounding plans that never see the light of day.               

[Srikcir]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

instead of getting engaged in lobbying to get a promotion or being under the control of influential individuals outside the force. 

Says the man who got his job as Chairman of the CDC through the personal appointment by the Chief of the Junta organization NCPO. Takes one to know one I guess.

[maewang99]

uuummm.... another of those English words used very different here.

"police".

you don't have to be a CJ graduate to know this stuff....

in the USA we call them US Marshalls or FBI agents....  in most western countries, and certainly all 50 US States.... "police" means a local law enforcement agency... not a national one. in fact, even at the amphoe level we would use different words.. Sheriff or Sheriff's deputy... but never "police".

not that I remember or have at all recently read.

and I think words are important. 







  

 

Edited July 7, 2017 by maewang99

[kannot]

wake em up, that would produce efficiency

[YetAnother]

boy, would i put money on this one;against

[lamyai3]

8 hours ago, maewang99 said:

uuummm.... another of those English words used very different here.

"police".

you don't have to be a CJ graduate to know this stuff....

in the USA we call them US Marshalls or FBI agents....  in most western countries, and certainly all 50 US States.... "police" means a local law enforcement agency... not a national one. in fact, even at the amphoe level we would use different words.. Sheriff or Sheriff's deputy... but never "police".

not that I remember or have at all recently read.

and I think words are important. 
 

Police in most countries is used in both a local and national sense, there are many levels of hierarchy.