Seven Bombs Go Off In Bangkok - New Year Countdown Cancelled

[Who, me ?]

Not sure what you mean by that but i am sincere and we are leaving sorry you feel this way

I do not think that the person he is referring to is you. Just like my previous post was not in any way aimed at you

Cant say I agree but i did the honour of checking his posts pretty much has a go when he has the oportuntiy so lets just get back to thhe thread this is a waist of time

As said, I was not aiming at you !! Sorry you took it for you !

[britmaveric]

it's a debate - and without it there might be not an investigation and report. Let people talk and put pressure on those at power

This is not a debate - this is a news forum. If you want to debate please go to the thread set up for that in the General Forum. Thanks.

Agreed and I dare say the powers at be could care less what the farang on street believes.

[qualtrough]

This is terrible i feel so sorry for all these people I am waching this on the news from Africa. My family and I have lived in Thailand for 18 years on and off my daughter was born here and my son has lived here for most of his 8 years. when the Bali boming took place threats were made against expat schools in asia and in Thailand ours had to hire an armed poiceman for six months because of the parents concers, what will happen now I can tell you for me with great regret i called my wife and family today and asked if they wishh to leave. We have decided to go enough is enough thailand is spiraling down hill the new regime may be as bad as the old i fear for the counry and what is next Civil war, i think we all know the people fueling it today is a very sad day the land of smiles may soon be one of tears.

The bombings are a terrible tragedy, but it is an ill wind that blows no good, and in this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.

[blaze]

"By the way, nearly every Thai person I have spoken to and also overheard on the matter dont blame Muslims. They label an entirely different group."

Just kind of curious- how many those friends supported the TRT? And how many were blatantly anti- Taksin at the time of the coup?

Let me make a prediction- I have not read todays papers (hung over) - but I am quite confident in saying that the Nation will imply a connection with Thaksin. It will use reliable information acquired from that Mister or Mrs A. Source who has served them so well over the last year. Of course there will be zero hard evidence- but since when did that matter. For too many people, Rumor repeated often enough. soon becomes fact. Especially when it suits their prejudices.

Hopefully not too far off topic - did anyone hear the somewhat strange interview with the Thai academic on CNN tonight, who predicted another coup- by an even more anti Taksin group -within the next few months? Is he relying on A. Source too? Or is this whole thing way more complicated than we are being led to believe?

Man this is getting weird.

[asd]

HRH Princess Sirindhorn visits injured people

HRH Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn made a personal visit to those injured from the multiple bomb attacks in Chulalongkorn and Rajavithee Hospital on Monday, Public Relations Department said.

Princess Sirindhorn also gave bouquets from HM the King and the Queen to doctors of both hospitals.

Series of bomb attacks in Bangkok on the New Year's eve killed three persons and injured many others. Injured people were sent to receive treatment from both hospitals.

The Nation

HRH Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn visits gives necessities to a woman who was injured in a bomb attack on the New Year's eve at Chulalongkorn Hospital on Monday.

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Sonthi expects more terror attacks

The chairman of the Council for National Security expects more attacks from those behind the bomb attacks in Bangkok on New Year Eve.

Speaking to reporters a press conference after a CNS meeting, CNS chairman and Army Commander-in-Chief Gen Sonthi Boonyaratglin said the CNS would hold trainings for the general members of the public so that they could help monitor against possible terror attacks and could inform the authorities in time.

He said the CNS would seek cooperation from owners of fuel stations, department stores and various factories to send their employees to receive trainings.

He said the trainings should help the people know as to whether they should alert officials about irregularities.

Sonthi said the CNS has assigned the Internal Security Operations Command to be in charge of security affairs in the country.

The chairman of the Council for National Security visits gives necessities to a dozen people who were injured in a bomb attack on the New Year's eve at Rajavithi Hospital.

Edited January 1, 2007 by asd

[aaaaaa]

well, don't worry, folks - as shown on photos in post above, Man of the Year Khun Sonthi is back (favorite line of Arni in Terminator 1, 2 ) nad he has assured that they have enought troops to withstand whatever turmoils. iTV reports that army pulls back toward Bkk....

strange symbols found on each bombing site are being analyside : "I R K". somehow these are in western characters, not in Thai ...

[HenryB]

it's a debate - and without it there might be not an investigation and report. Let people talk and put pressure on those at power

This is not a debate - this is a news forum. If you want to debate please go to the thread set up for that in the General Forum. Thanks.

Us on Thai Visa shouldn't talk about the bombing as this will be no good for Thailand Tourist Industry I think this forum as well other forums should post only positive things like how safe and beautiful Thailand is.

[qualtrough]

Some people are made of sterner stuff than others...

BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) -- Deadly New Year's bombings have failed to shatter Bangkok's charms for most visitors -- even one wounded in the blasts.

"I can't see why this would deter me from coming back," said Paul Hewitt, a Briton on holiday who was hurt when nine bombs went off across the Thai capital on New Year's Eve and Monday, leaving three people dead and 38 wounded, nine of them foreigners.

"I just happened to be standing in the wrong place at the wrong time. It could've happened anywhere in the world," said Hewitt, 55, a retired flight attendant from Horsham, England.

He was hospitalized Sunday night and discharged Monday after one bomb, in a crowded shopping district, drove a piece of debris deep into his left arm.

[Tony Clifton]

Us on Thai Visa shouldn't talk about the bombing as this will be no good for Thailand Tourist Industry I think this forum as well other forums should post only positive things like how safe and beautiful Thailand is.

Are you North Korean?

[Viking]

Any idea who is responsible or is it to early to say

Bit obvious....

*Gasp!* HOW DID YOU KNOW?

You’re such a fathomless and resourceful source of relevant and true information Britt! Where do you get all your information? You know EVERYTHING ahead of us all!

The nation

Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont said "politicians who have lost power" are behind the bombings.

"Based on various reports of intelligence agencies and evidence available, it was the work of people who lost political benefits, but I cannot clearly say which particular group was behind it," the prime minister told a news conference.

Viking

[AnneArchi]

There are those who fear the military has its eyes on returning the country to stratocracy, but army Commander-in-Chief Gen Sonthi Boonyaratglin scoffed at the idea at a press conference Monday afternoon. Just one month ago martial law was lifted in Bangkok, though it remains in 35 of 76 provinces. Anti-coup groups accused the junta of "staging" the attacks in order to reinstate martial law, but this notion is ludicrous given the economic impact the incidents will have, slowing tourism and giving a bad name to the land of smiles. One of the factors in staging the September coup was the fear that mounting attacks in the south would deter tourism, which accounts for 5% of the GDP.  Just days after a Canadian tourist died in a bomb blast in Hat Yai, tanks rolled into Bangkok, toppling Prime Minister Thaksin and his Thai Rak Thai party.

The Southern Islamist insurgency has at times threatened to spill over into Bangkok, and saw a marked increase in violence with Thaksin's rise to power. While the vast majority of rural Thailand was in his favor, the southern provinces were in exception. The Tak Bai incident in October of 2004 set the tone, when 78 suspected rebels suffocated after the army threw several hundred men, hands bound, into a truck for transport. Thaksin defended the military's actions and said the men died because they were already weak from fasting for Ramadan. Bombings occur almost daily in the southern provinces of but so far, no evidence seems to suggest the Bangkok bombings are the work of rebels.

Early Monday morning, fingers were being pointed in the direction of Thaksin, who resurfaced in China last week. There was talk of seizing his assets to prevent any possible further funding of violence from within his camp, should he be the one responsible. It is possible that he is behind the attacks, but it is also quite convenient for the military to completely nullify him as a public figure. Thaksin still enjoys considerable public support. According to a recent poll, he is ranked second, at 24%, for man of the year. That would give the military govenrment legitimacy, and establish the bad guy clear cut for everyone to see, in the post-coup power struggle. The military appointed government has failed to gain public approval and is seen to be faltering, with little action to prove it's true aims.

-VJ

[londonthai]

Not sure what pictures you are referring to, but last night on ITV they showed officials spray painting circles around shapnel locations and others gathering and examining similar evidence.

it's not forensics - more like a playground, as nice as it looks for the cameras.

as soon as you move the victims the area should be cordoned off with access only for a specialised unit in a protective clothing to look for evidence centimeter by centimeter. If they don't have such specialised unit they should bring it from abroad - would cost less than more explosions around the town causing more damage

Edited January 1, 2007 by londonthai

[Zen]

Does anyone know whether it's true that an unexploded bomb was found in the 2nd Floor Toilet of ASIA HOTEL Bangkok (Rajthevee)??

[pap]

While I don't want to speculate on who is behind the bombings, I thought that there should be some other points raised:

1. Gen. Sonthi is himself a Muslim. It is to be expected that he would have good sources of information in the South - and thus something like this probably would not have escaped his attention had it been planned by separatists.

2. On iTV, a number of points were raised which did not necessarily fit in with the idea of separatists being behind the bombings. Amongst them:

* The types of bombs used were not typical of those being used in the South

* The locations of the explosions were well scattered and unlikely to be easily known to separatists coming from the South without some significant reconnaisance in advance

* There would have been much more damage had the separatists been behind the bombings

* Had the separatists wanted to make a point in Bangkok (which they have never done) there would have been plenty of other incidents in the past

Other points (my personal opinion):

* At least two of the locations - Sukhumvit 62 and Seacon Square - are in or near heavily Muslim areas. I think it highly unlikely that they would have chosen these locations.

* Had the separatists wanted to make a point, they would likely have chosen locations of more significance, particularly to Buddhists. Note that no temples, or Sanam Luang, were affected by the explosions. Nor were any of the shopping centers frequented by the upper class targeted.

* Perhaps most signifcant, considering the main area targeted - there would have been a heavy concentration of people around the Erawan Shrine, a major focus of Buddhists both inside and outside Thailand. No activity took place in that area.

Just some of my thoughts, along with what I have been hearing.

There are so many possibilities right now who knows?

I could counter every one of your informed points but the reality is we just don't know. They need time. Assuming Sonthi knows other Muslims may take action is like assuming Musharef knows where bombs will go off in Pakistan or the Iraqi government knows where bombs will go off because they are Muslim. Many Muslims do not back blowing innocent people up. Just because he is Muslim does not mean he understands other Muslims. People are people everywhere meaning each has their own motives and is an individual. In additions his hands are not entirely clean. The fact that some bombs went off in Muslim areas means very little. Look at Iraq.

By definition Hat Yai is a Muslim area yet bombs go off there indescriminantly for the most part and the people injured have not all been Budhist.

I don't think anyone can be ruled out yet. Seperatists, Thaksin Supporters, Thaksin himself, the coup government, pissed off villagers with not much to lose or Waco's pissed at people just because they are breathing the same air as them and don't beleive the same as them could be to blame.

It may take multiple future bombings and alot of time to profile the people and hunt them down. Governments and their agencies move slowly but they tend to be relentless and usually find what they are looking for (if they are really looking). Who knows? Hopefull they get them before more bombs go off.

[pap]

Not sure what pictures you are referring to, but last night on ITV they showed officials spray painting circles around shapnel locations and others gathering and examining similar evidence.

it's not forensics - more like a playground, as nice as it looks for the cameras.

as soon as you move the victims the area should be cordoned off with access only for a specialised unit in a protective clothing to look for evidence centimeter by centimeter. If they don't have such specialised unit they should bring it from abroad - would cost less than more explosions around the town causing more damage

Amen! Interpol has some serious capabilities so I am surprised they have not been tapped. They can pull in intelligence and resources well beyond that of any single government and bring resources the Thais could definitely use in this situation.

Its one thing to want to show the world your in control and another to get the b@st@rds. But governments usually do stupid things initially after a tragedy. I hope the Thais cop shop is up to the task. They do have some sharp guys but they have alot that aren't up to this.

Regardless I hope they get em.

[lopburi3]

name='Tony Clifton' date='2007-01-01 23:33:40' post='1058286']

Us on Thai Visa shouldn't talk about the bombing as this will be no good for Thailand Tourist Industry I think this forum as well other forums should post only positive things like how safe and beautiful Thailand is.

Are you North Korean?

I don't think so but from reading his previous posts the term t r o l l comes to mind.

[madi]

Who did it?

This is the question.

[Tolley]

This is terrible i feel so sorry for all these people I am waching this on the news from Africa. My family and I have lived in Thailand for 18 years on and off my daughter was born here and my son has lived here for most of his 8 years. when the Bali boming took place threats were made against expat schools in asia and in Thailand ours had to hire an armed poiceman for six months because of the parents concers, what will happen now I can tell you for me with great regret i called my wife and family today and asked if they wishh to leave. We have decided to go enough is enough thailand is spiraling down hill the new regime may be as bad as the old i fear for the counry and what is next Civil war, i think we all know the people fueling it today is a very sad day the land of smiles may soon be one of tears.

The bombings are a terrible tragedy, but it is an ill wind that blows no good, and in this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.

Very strange post.

Why shouldn't people be concerned with their personal safety?

For many farangs it is probably not much of an issue as they can leave the country whenever they like.

Unfortunately for the locals they are stuck with the situation.

Maybe we should sent you out into the streets of Iraq for a few days and you might have a better understanding of personal safety issues.

[qualtrough]

This is terrible i feel so sorry for all these people I am waching this on the news from Africa. My family and I have lived in Thailand for 18 years on and off my daughter was born here and my son has lived here for most of his 8 years. when the Bali boming took place threats were made against expat schools in asia and in Thailand ours had to hire an armed poiceman for six months because of the parents concers, what will happen now I can tell you for me with great regret i called my wife and family today and asked if they wishh to leave. We have decided to go enough is enough thailand is spiraling down hill the new regime may be as bad as the old i fear for the counry and what is next Civil war, i think we all know the people fueling it today is a very sad day the land of smiles may soon be one of tears.

The bombings are a terrible tragedy, but it is an ill wind that blows no good, and in this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.

Very strange post.

Why shouldn't people be concerned with their personal safety?

For many farangs it is probably not much of an issue as they can leave the country whenever they like.

Unfortunately for the locals they are stuck with the situation.

Maybe we should sent you out into the streets of Iraq for a few days and you might have a better understanding of personal safety issues.

Every time something bad happens in Thailand the forum comes alight with farangs decrying how Thailand is becoming dangerous and they may no longer want to live here. Rather than Thailand becoming an appreciably more dangerous place, these people are just awaking to the fact that Thailand is not, nor has it ever been, the Land of Smiles, and that it has problems just like many other countries. There have been many bombings in Thailand over the years, including the downing of a Cathay Pacific plane by bomb, multiple bombings of the Hat Yai railway station dating back to the 1980s, and bombings in department stores during the 80s--to name a few. Do these people think that things like that never happen here? Their whinging to me suggests that they never really did their homework on Thailand, and their hearts are now aflutter because their rose-colored glasses have fallen off. If a few small bombs make them leave, I say good riddance, and don't let the rattan door hit you on the ass on the way out!

P.S. Your suggestion that I visit Iraq to get an idea of personal safety makes no sense. Are you suggesting that the situations in Iraq and Thailand are somehow comparable?? Strange post indeed!

Edited January 2, 2007 by qualtrough

[Who, me ?]

This is terrible i feel so sorry for all these people I am waching this on the news from Africa. My family and I have lived in Thailand for 18 years on and off my daughter was born here and my son has lived here for most of his 8 years. when the Bali boming took place threats were made against expat schools in asia and in Thailand ours had to hire an armed poiceman for six months because of the parents concers, what will happen now I can tell you for me with great regret i called my wife and family today and asked if they wishh to leave. We have decided to go enough is enough thailand is spiraling down hill the new regime may be as bad as the old i fear for the counry and what is next Civil war, i think we all know the people fueling it today is a very sad day the land of smiles may soon be one of tears.

The bombings are a terrible tragedy, but it is an ill wind that blows no good, and in this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.

Very strange post.

Why shouldn't people be concerned with their personal safety?

For many farangs it is probably not much of an issue as they can leave the country whenever they like.

Unfortunately for the locals they are stuck with the situation.

Maybe we should sent you out into the streets of Iraq for a few days and you might have a better understanding of personal safety issues.

Every time something bad happens in Thailand the forum comes alight with farangs decrying how Thailand is becoming dangerous and they may no longer want to live here. Rather than Thailand becoming an appreciably more dangerous place, I think these people are just awaking to the fact that Thailand is not, nor has it ever been, the Land of Smiles, and that it has problems just like many other countries. There have been many bombings in Thailand over the years, including the downing of a Cathay Pacific plane by bomb, multiple bombings of the Hat Yai railway station dating back to the 1980s, and bombings in department stores during the 80s.

I think that if a few bombs make you decide to leave Thailand the country is better off without you so good riddance.

Your suggestion that I visit Iraq to get an idea of personal safety makes no sense. Are you suggesting that the situations in Iraq and Thailand are somehow comparable??

It was never meant that Iraq and Thailand can be comparable.....in my understanding it is even the quite opposite....Once again, oil on fire does not help....

[Tolley]

This is terrible i feel so sorry for all these people I am waching this on the news from Africa. My family and I have lived in Thailand for 18 years on and off my daughter was born here and my son has lived here for most of his 8 years. when the Bali boming took place threats were made against expat schools in asia and in Thailand ours had to hire an armed poiceman for six months because of the parents concers, what will happen now I can tell you for me with great regret i called my wife and family today and asked if they wishh to leave. We have decided to go enough is enough thailand is spiraling down hill the new regime may be as bad as the old i fear for the counry and what is next Civil war, i think we all know the people fueling it today is a very sad day the land of smiles may soon be one of tears.

The bombings are a terrible tragedy, but it is an ill wind that blows no good, and in this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.

Very strange post.

Why shouldn't people be concerned with their personal safety?

For many farangs it is probably not much of an issue as they can leave the country whenever they like.

Unfortunately for the locals they are stuck with the situation.

Maybe we should sent you out into the streets of Iraq for a few days and you might have a better understanding of personal safety issues.

Every time something bad happens in Thailand the forum comes alight with farangs decrying how Thailand is becoming dangerous and they may no longer want to live here. Rather than Thailand becoming an appreciably more dangerous place, I think these people are just awaking to the fact that Thailand is not, nor has it ever been, the Land of Smiles, and that it has problems just like many other countries. There have been many bombings in Thailand over the years, including the downing of a Cathay Pacific plane by bomb, multiple bombings of the Hat Yai railway station dating back to the 1980s, and bombings in department stores during the 80s.

I think that if a few bombs make you decide to leave Thailand the country is better off without you so good riddance.

Your suggestion that I visit Iraq to get an idea of personal safety makes no sense. Are you suggesting that the situations in Iraq and Thailand are somehow comparable??

What i am suggesting is that you lack any sensitivity to how others percieve issues of personal safety. It is a normal reaction to feel insecure or worried or concerned when law and order issues arise like the indiscriminate bombings of the other night.

Making gratuitous comments like 'good riddance' and 'this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.' only serves to highlight your lack of understanding of one of the real concerns most people have in life and that is their own personal safety. You might be Rambo behind the keyboard but it would be interesting to see how you reacted if you or close friends or family were affected by such incidents.

[Canadianvisitor]

I am personally very proud of the way in which the Thai authourities handled the situation.

Eight bombs? How many people were spared and how many people were murdered by this or these lunatics?

It could have been a lot worse.

Good on ya Thailand, I am dispaired that it happened but at least it was dealt with in an efficient manner.

[qualtrough]

This is terrible i feel so sorry for all these people I am waching this on the news from Africa. My family and I have lived in Thailand for 18 years on and off my daughter was born here and my son has lived here for most of his 8 years. when the Bali boming took place threats were made against expat schools in asia and in Thailand ours had to hire an armed poiceman for six months because of the parents concers, what will happen now I can tell you for me with great regret i called my wife and family today and asked if they wishh to leave. We have decided to go enough is enough thailand is spiraling down hill the new regime may be as bad as the old i fear for the counry and what is next Civil war, i think we all know the people fueling it today is a very sad day the land of smiles may soon be one of tears.

The bombings are a terrible tragedy, but it is an ill wind that blows no good, and in this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.

Very strange post.

Why shouldn't people be concerned with their personal safety?

For many farangs it is probably not much of an issue as they can leave the country whenever they like.

Unfortunately for the locals they are stuck with the situation.

Maybe we should sent you out into the streets of Iraq for a few days and you might have a better understanding of personal safety issues.

Every time something bad happens in Thailand the forum comes alight with farangs decrying how Thailand is becoming dangerous and they may no longer want to live here. Rather than Thailand becoming an appreciably more dangerous place, I think these people are just awaking to the fact that Thailand is not, nor has it ever been, the Land of Smiles, and that it has problems just like many other countries. There have been many bombings in Thailand over the years, including the downing of a Cathay Pacific plane by bomb, multiple bombings of the Hat Yai railway station dating back to the 1980s, and bombings in department stores during the 80s.

I think that if a few bombs make you decide to leave Thailand the country is better off without you so good riddance.

Your suggestion that I visit Iraq to get an idea of personal safety makes no sense. Are you suggesting that the situations in Iraq and Thailand are somehow comparable??

What i am suggesting is that you lack any sensitivity to how others percieve issues of personal safety. It is a normal reaction to feel insecure or worried or concerned when law and order issues arise like the indiscriminate bombings of the other night.

Making gratuitous comments like 'good riddance' and 'this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.' only serves to highlight your lack of understanding of one of the real concerns most people have in life and that is their own personal safety. You might be Rambo behind the keyboard but it would be interesting to see how you reacted if you or close friends or family were affected by such incidents.

I am not lacking in sensitivity, but I am lacking in patience with those who panic at the news of any untoward event. There is a 'type' overpopulating these forums who have unrealistic expectations of Thailand, and freak out whenever their unrealistic views are contaminated by reality. I am insensitive to those people, yes.

I can tell you exactly how I would react in an event like this because I have had a family member affected by an incident like this. My mother was severely wounded by a suicide bomber several years ago--Asian country and year to be unnamed for privacy purposes. I was very distressed, and immediately flew to her bedside and stayed there for a week. But that incident did not lead either myself, nor my mother (in hospital 2+ months), to make panicky decisions about our personal safety that were not based on any realistic assessment of personal danger. Thanks for asking.

I am not a Rambo type, far from it. However, I am also not a sniveling coward who will let some idiots with bombs chase me away from here or anywhere I want to be. If you want to run--good for you, but just do it and spare us the whinging.

One more thing. Whatever happened to 'stiff upper lip' and 'mustn't grumble'?

Edited January 2, 2007 by qualtrough

[Who, me ?]

This is terrible i feel so sorry for all these people I am waching this on the news from Africa. My family and I have lived in Thailand for 18 years on and off my daughter was born here and my son has lived here for most of his 8 years. when the Bali boming took place threats were made against expat schools in asia and in Thailand ours had to hire an armed poiceman for six months because of the parents concers, what will happen now I can tell you for me with great regret i called my wife and family today and asked if they wishh to leave. We have decided to go enough is enough thailand is spiraling down hill the new regime may be as bad as the old i fear for the counry and what is next Civil war, i think we all know the people fueling it today is a very sad day the land of smiles may soon be one of tears.

The bombings are a terrible tragedy, but it is an ill wind that blows no good, and in this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.

Very strange post.

Why shouldn't people be concerned with their personal safety?

For many farangs it is probably not much of an issue as they can leave the country whenever they like.

Unfortunately for the locals they are stuck with the situation.

Maybe we should sent you out into the streets of Iraq for a few days and you might have a better understanding of personal safety issues.

Every time something bad happens in Thailand the forum comes alight with farangs decrying how Thailand is becoming dangerous and they may no longer want to live here. Rather than Thailand becoming an appreciably more dangerous place, I think these people are just awaking to the fact that Thailand is not, nor has it ever been, the Land of Smiles, and that it has problems just like many other countries. There have been many bombings in Thailand over the years, including the downing of a Cathay Pacific plane by bomb, multiple bombings of the Hat Yai railway station dating back to the 1980s, and bombings in department stores during the 80s.

I think that if a few bombs make you decide to leave Thailand the country is better off without you so good riddance.

Your suggestion that I visit Iraq to get an idea of personal safety makes no sense. Are you suggesting that the situations in Iraq and Thailand are somehow comparable??

What i am suggesting is that you lack any sensitivity to how others percieve issues of personal safety. It is a normal reaction to feel insecure or worried or concerned when law and order issues arise like the indiscriminate bombings of the other night.

Making gratuitous comments like 'good riddance' and 'this case the good news is that we will soon be rid of some panicky farangs that should not have lived here in the first place.' only serves to highlight your lack of understanding of one of the real concerns most people have in life and that is their own personal safety. You might be Rambo behind the keyboard but it would be interesting to see how you reacted if you or close friends or family were affected by such incidents.

I am not lacking in sensitivity, but I am lacking in patience with those who panic at the news of any untoward event. There is a 'type' overpopulating these forums who have unrealistic expectations of Thailand, and freak out whenever their unrealistic views are contaminated by reality. I am insensitive to those people, yes.

I can tell you exactly how I would react in an event like this because I have had a family member affected by an incident like this. My mother was severely wounded by a suicide bomber several years ago--Asian country and year to be unnamed for privacy purposes. I was very distressed, and immediately flew to her bedside and stayed there for a week. But that incident did not lead either myself, nor my mother (in hospital 2+ months), to make panicky decisions about our personal safety that were not based on any realistic assessment of personal danger. Thanks for asking.

I am not a Rambo type, far from it. However, I am also not a sniveling coward who will let some idiots with bombs chase me away from here or anywhere I want to be. If you want to run--good for you, but just do it and spare us the whinging.

One more thing. Whatever happened to 'stiff upper lip' and 'mustn't grumble'?

Panic is one of the expectation of those who put the bombs...Leaving the country will not change anything, will not bring any better....and wherever you go, you might face the same problem sooner or later, or an earthquake, tsunami, etc....or tax increase,...no perfect world in this world....best way is to live as usual, and not to think too much

[blaze]

"Good on ya Thailand, I am dispaired that it happened but at least it was dealt with in an efficient manner."

Not share you appreciate the irony of your statement- unless you intended to congratulate the authorities on the efficiency with which they managed to get rid of evidence-

http://bangkokpost.com/News/02Jan2007_news07.php

[londonthai]

looks from the pictures that all forensic evidence was just sweeped away and removed - and I think it was disposed rather than moved to the laboratory. That way we might never know the truth about the bombings.

The correct procedure would be to cordon off the immediate area of explosion and allow experts to gather the evidence - the whole process taking days or even weeks.

swept clean indeed. was that done on purpose or they just didn't know how much they could find out from all that stuff?

yes, it was on purpose.

it was the security services which did bombings and the police is covering them up - that's what I have concluded from the moment when the muslim involment was ruled out and an hour after the first bombs went off (see my earliest, the first posts on this thread, starting from page 7 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?ac...s&highlite= )

Edited January 2, 2007 by londonthai

[thefusilier]

looks from the pictures that all forensic evidence was just sweeped away and removed - and I think it was disposed rather than moved to the laboratory. That way we might never know the truth about the bombings.

The correct procedure would be to cordon off the immediate area of explosion and allow experts to gather the evidence - the whole process taking days or even weeks.

swept clean indeed. was that done on purpose or they just didn't know how much they could find out from all that stuff?

yes, it was on purpose.

it was the security services which did bombings and the police is covering them up - that's what I have concluded from the moment when the muslim involment was ruled out and an hour after the first bombs went off (see my earliest, the first posts on this thread, starting from page 7 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?ac...s&highlite= )

Are you going to go public with your findings? The world needs to know the truth!

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It was the King who pointed in his speech to the real and biggest problem in Thailand ... the floods ! And who's responsible for those floods? Not Thaksin or the TRT, but the democrats and the army, they've been illegally cutting wood for decenia ! I support the King ! It was incredible smart and brave of him to give the coup leaders a clear warning ...

My guess ... it's was the junta ... who else takes any profit from this ... blaming it on Thaksin almost immediately?? that was the whole purpose of this, drawing peoples attention away from the fact that the army just rewarded themselves with 500.000.000 Baht !! like that's not corruption, at least Thaksin did also a lot of good for the country, instead of totally crashing the stock market !!

How can anybody ever be in favor of a military dictatorship ??

[Who, me ?]

looks from the pictures that all forensic evidence was just sweeped away and removed - and I think it was disposed rather than moved to the laboratory. That way we might never know the truth about the bombings.

The correct procedure would be to cordon off the immediate area of explosion and allow experts to gather the evidence - the whole process taking days or even weeks.

swept clean indeed. was that done on purpose or they just didn't know how much they could find out from all that stuff?

yes, it was on purpose.

it was the security services which did bombings and the police is covering them up - that's what I have concluded from the moment when the muslim involment was ruled out and an hour after the first bombs went off (see my earliest, the first posts on this thread, starting from page 7 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?ac...s&highlite= )

That's a mighty statement !! Any supporting facts ? I think that in such a case you need to be clear

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I am sad for Thailand. I am sad for the human race.

I'll do my part to help ....

SEE YOU IN FEBRUARY THAILAND !