Witness for marriage extension required every year

[kannot]

23 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

oh yes in Jomtien you are requested to show up with a witness every year when you are married , having no kids. But the rule appers to be only applicable to Jomtien. The witness is also to have a housebook from Pattaya.

 

wbr

roobaa01

Hua  Hin  only wanted witness for first year., after that not requested.............ive got no kids

[jimster]

Just now, bluesofa said:

I'd suggest you check with Udon first, as it could be a pain if you arrive without a witness, to be told that you need one.

As I said, although the IO said no immediate family. my wife asked if her sister-in-law would be acceptable. That would be OK, as long as she hadn't changed her surname when she got married.

In the end, the person she found who worked ten minutes away, I had never seen before. The IO wasn't worried about that (no disrespect), it did seem to be more of a paperwork exercise.

Maybe the witness could just be someone waiting to do a visa extension themselves? If it has to be a Thai person, then that person's wife/girlfriend? Although I brought my own witnesses when I got married (one of them was a foreigner) I hear that the two witnesses could also be strangers you just met who are in the office at the same time as you. In fact, my wife and I were witnesses to another marriage on that day too.

[kannot]

19 hours ago, Xonax said:

Here in Samut Prakan 3 Immigration officers will visit your home every time you apply for extension. They normally call and give me a few hours notice, so I have time to find a witness.  The visit ends with a photo-session in the livingroom, bedroom and outside the home.

And in Hua  Hin they told us they couldnt come out to see us as we  lived to far away (35km) and they didnt get money for fuel etc so instead they walked us down the  road to a hotel and took some photos  outside of us.

Ive never had them visit our home....................herein lies  the Thai problem of consistency

[jimster]

1 minute ago, kannot said:

And in Hua  Hin they told us they couldnt come out to see us as we  lived to far away (35km) and they didnt get money for fuel etc so instead they walked us down the  road to a hotel and took some photos  outside of us.

Ive never had them visit our home....................herein lies  the Thai problem of consistency

Might be the same for us then. We also live quite far outside of town. No one ever wants to come out here for that reason.

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, kannot said:

And in Hua  Hin they told us they couldnt come out to see us as we  lived to far away (35km) and they didnt get money for fuel etc so instead they walked us down the  road to a hotel and took some photos  outside of us.

Ive never had them visit our home....................herein lies  the Thai problem of consistency

'Thai consistency' a bit of an oxymoron.

[Moonlover]

19 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

We had a visit from Udon Thani IO on my first marriage extension (having switched from retirement due to the fall in GBP) and were told back then, that it would be their only visit. This is backed up by three of our neighbours who have lived here for several years.

 

I shall know for sure in September, when my next extension is due.

 

7 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

I'd suggest you check with Udon first, as it could be a pain if you arrive without a witness, to be told that you need one.

As I said, although the IO said no immediate family, my wife asked if her sister-in-law would be acceptable. That would be OK, as long as she hadn't changed her surname when she got married.

In the end, the person she found who worked ten minutes away, I had never seen before. The IO wasn't worried about that (no disrespect), it did seem to be more of a paperwork exercise.

Read again. I said ''visit''. I am aware we need a witness when we apply thank you.

[kannot]

1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

'Thai consistency' a bit of an oxymoron.

yeah should be inconsistency

[robblok]

20 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

As I wrote that is not normal.

I have never had a home visit for any of my 9 extension applications. Immigration had us get a letter from the local police chief for the first extension to take back to them after they accepted the application.

I believe you your the expert, but I have had 3-4 home visits, probably because my home is close and they had to fill a quota. Its real annoying you would say that after 1 visit it would be ok. 

 

Immigration in Nothaburi, home around 3 km from the immigration office.

Edited July 27, 2017 by robblok

[BobHG46]

In Thailand, the officer who interviews you is responsible for interpreting the law, which might account for the variance in practice.

[fvw53]

20 hours ago, ldiablo72 said:

That's BS. Pathumthani immigration only requires a home visit with witnessess on the very first extension based upon marriage.

 

 

 

 

I am reporting what I experienced for 3 years in a row ...my goodness what should it be BS...do you live in Pathum Thani and do you apply for extension based on marriage?

I am not alone - I live in an apartment building - two other people in our building are facing the same situation : the only problem is to find witnesses registered here because my wife is always home while the rest the of building is out working.

[Moonlover]

I think it is just possible that the IO might make a judgement call on whether a marriage is sound one or possibly a short lived affair. Such factors age, type of housing, living conditions, family and so on.

 

It could result in a more dubious arrangement, in their eyes, warranting, more than just a single home visit.

 

Sham marriages do occur, and they are aware of that.

[Beats56]

17 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

This is interesting, as I just changed from an extension based on retirement to an extension based on marriage, so the 2nd extension based on marriage will be due end January.

 

Since I got the extension based on marriage and them coming out to take a photo with us in it and the house in the background, I have obtained the Tabien Bann (yellow book), yes went jumped through all of the hoola-hoops, and also got pink ID, just wondering if that has any weight, the immigration office in Sakon Nahkon is relatively small and the guys there are familiar with us. 

 

If the Tabien Bann doesn't have any weight and I require a witness, will take the neighbour as she is good value for the 200 baht plus lunch that we give her for the 3 hour round trip.

 

Its just come to mind that I am going there early August to do my 90 day reporting, so will ask the question then and update the reply to this post for any others who go to Sakon Nakhon, that is unless someone who goes there is reading this and can answer the question for me. 

Good I always ask questions with the IO when I do my 90 day. Things change here a.lot.  don't want to waste time having to do a second visit. 

[bluesofa]

18 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

This is interesting, as I just changed from an extension based on retirement to an extension based on marriage, so the 2nd extension based on marriage will be due end January.

 

Since I got the extension based on marriage and them coming out to take a photo with us in it and the house in the background, I have obtained the Tabien Bann (yellow book), yes went jumped through all of the hoola-hoops, and also got pink ID, just wondering if that has any weight, the immigration office in Sakon Nahkon is relatively small and the guys there are familiar with us. 

 

If the Tabien Bann doesn't have any weight and I require a witness, will take the neighbour as she is good value for the 200 baht plus lunch that we give her for the 3 hour round trip.

 

Its just come to mind that I am going there early August to do my 90 day reporting, so will ask the question then and update the reply to this post for any others who go to Sakon Nakhon, that is unless someone who goes there is reading this and can answer the question for me. 

I'd be interested to know what the outcome is regarding the tablien ban and pink ID, if immigration are interested in it, or give you any brownie points for it? i.e. not requiring a witness as you have the same registered address?

 

I have both docs, but haven't bothered to mention them, as at the moment they (along with my wife's house reg &  ID) are for a different address in the same village. Depending on the outcome, it may be worth changing them all to where we actually live, not just registered as living.

I know it's a while before your extension is due, but if you could reply on this thread it would be great, thanks.

Edited July 27, 2017 by bluesofa

[4MyEgo]

2 hours ago, bluesofa said:

I'd be interested to know what the outcome is regarding the tablien ban and pink ID, if immigration are interested in it, or give you any brownie points for it? i.e. not requiring a witness as you have the same registered address?

 

I have both docs, but haven't bothered to mention them, as at the moment they (along with my wife's house reg &  ID) are for a different address in the same village. Depending on the outcome, it may be worth changing them all to where we actually live, not just registered as living.

I know it's a while before your extension is due, but if you could reply on this thread it would be great, thanks.

Will make a diary note for next month i.e. about a weeks time and provide an update for all interested.

[bluesofa]

6 hours ago, Moonlover said:

 

Read again. I said ''visit''. I am aware we need a witness when we apply thank you.

I misunderstood your post. There was a space after mentioning the visit you had, saying you thought it would be the only one.  Then it said you would know for sure in September.

I assumed you meant about the need for a witness at immigration, as that was the heading of the thread.

Sorry.

[maxcorrigan]

7 hours ago, johng said:

Jomtien told me the witnesses cant be a relative  and are required every year if you don't have children.

Jomtien told me the opposite, relations were OK my three extension have all been witnessed by my wife's aunt each time, with no problems! and no home visits

[jeab1980]

How are they going to know if it's a relative?

[bluesofa]

32 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said:

Jomtien told me the opposite, relations were OK my three extension have all been witnessed by my wife's aunt each time, with no problems! and no home visits

It seems to hinge on whether they have the same surname.

As I posted earlier, if my wife's sister-in-law hadn't changed her surname when she married my wife's brother, she would be OK as a witness.

[jeab1980]

1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

It seems to hinge on whether they have the same surname.

As I posted earlier, if my wife's sister-in-law hadn't changed her surname when she married my wife's brother, she would be OK as a witness.

So your wife kept her Thai surname then.

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, jeab1980 said:

So your wife kept her Thai surname then.

Yes, a good point there.

My wife thought it seemed better for her to keep her Thai surname as she felt it could put her at a disadvantage when she buys and sells land, as other Thais would see her as a 'rich ferang wife', inhibiting her chance to get a good deal.

[jeab1980]

2 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Yes, a good point there.

My wife thought it seemed better for her to keep her Thai surname as she felt it could put her at a disadvantage when she buys and sells land, as other Thais would see her as a 'rich ferang wife', inhibiting her chance to get a good deal.

I see her logic there however thais will know she is married to falang trust me jungle drums and smart phones glued to ears lol. Off topic sorry wevget someone not known around our village to negotiate for land ect. Always works well.

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

I misunderstood your post. There was a space after mentioning the visit you had, saying you thought it would be the only one.  Then it said you would know for sure in September.

I assumed you meant about the need for a witness at immigration, as that was the heading of the thread.

Sorry.

No worries. It was good of you to point it out.

[Anthony Loh]

I'd be interested to know what the outcome is regarding the tablien ban and pink ID, if immigration are interested in it, or give you any brownie points for it? i.e. not requiring a witness as you have the same registered address?
 
I have both docs, but haven't bothered to mention them, as at the moment they (along with my wife's house reg &  ID) are for a different address in the same village. Depending on the outcome, it may be worth changing them all to where we actually live, not just registered as living.
I know it's a while before your extension is due, but if you could reply on this thread it would be great, thanks.

I stay in chiang mai, the IO told me that they don't interested in my yellow house book and pink ID. I have two children born in Thailand also but still need to provide witness at the immigration office.


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[bluesofa]

6 minutes ago, Anthony Loh said:

I stay in chiang mai, the IO told me that they don't interested in my yellow house book and pink ID. I have two children born in Thailand also but still need to provide witness at the immigration office.


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Thanks for the info. I don't know if Udon will be the same, but I'd more than likely guess so.

[sandyf]

On 7/26/2017 at 11:04 AM, roobaa01 said:

oh yes in Jomtien you are requested to show up with a witness every year when you are married , having no kids. But the rule appers to be only applicable to Jomtien. The witness is also to have a housebook from Pattaya.

 

wbr

roobaa01

It is the same at Sri Ratcha, one of the other Chonburi offices, Don't know about Koh Sichang.

[roobaa01]

as for the jomtien witness rule I like to from the thai visa community whether this rule is a police order or not ??? coz when one obtains the list of requirements for marriage extension at jomtien, it is not listed.

 

wbr

roobaa01

[ubonjoe]

10 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

as for the jomtien witness rule I like to from the thai visa community whether this rule is a police order or not ??? coz when one obtains the list of requirements for marriage extension at jomtien, it is not listed.

 

It is certainly not shown in any police order. It is just a local policy at Jomtien.

[4MyEgo]

On 27/07/2017 at 3:28 PM, bluesofa said:

I'd be interested to know what the outcome is regarding the tablien ban and pink ID, if immigration are interested in it, or give you any brownie points for it? i.e. not requiring a witness as you have the same registered address?

 

I have both docs, but haven't bothered to mention them, as at the moment they (along with my wife's house reg &  ID) are for a different address in the same village. Depending on the outcome, it may be worth changing them all to where we actually live, not just registered as living.

I know it's a while before your extension is due, but if you could reply on this thread it would be great, thanks.

Went in and did the 90 day renewal today, it was dead as in there, the guy didn't seem to be in a good mood, although managed a smile, he took my TM47 and put it in a try under his desk and then filled in the slip that goes into my passport and said number 5 ok, then stood up and walked away, in all, 30 seconds tops.

 

I had no chance of asking any questions, so apologise about that, and number 5 was for November when I am due to report again, so no asking questions at all.