silent Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 14 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Absolutely no question.....hung by a towel?..... Better story than shooting him for trying to escape after bending the bars to slide out on a roll of toilet paper like Arlo in Alice's restaurant . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 16 hours ago, greenchair said: Omg, could I dare to say justice is turning a new corner. Now let's see if the investigation hits a wall. Well done courts. No unfortunately this courts findings will be swept under the carpet, like so many others. Just think how powerful a person must be to get someone murdeed by the DSI or by someone working for the DSI? Such a person will never be brought to justice in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrywhite Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 More than 1000 plots illegally registered!! Money money money, as Abba would say. I bet this is one of many such instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 41 minutes ago, dinsdale said: We know he was murdered BUT there is no evidence as to the perpetrators. Extrajudicial killing..no justice here. Case closed. Yup.... he was murdered, but we don't want the murderer to loose face! Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 this (intermediate) result is a bit unusual; normally such 'probes', if they are ever done with any seriousness and competence, yield some inane result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Who would have believed? TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 16 hours ago, Nip said: Dare I suggest that it suited the US and certain members of the local constsbulary that the founder of the dark web met a similar end?. But no loss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I suppose that it might pose an eminent threat to the brother. Just hoping that he have good locks on his door. Unfortunately he probably have to go buy groceries. A very vunerable situation these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 17 hours ago, Nip said: Dare I suggest that it suited the US and certain members of the local constsbulary that the founder of the dark web met a similar end?. I don't know about the U.S. part. But it's cases like this one with the former land guy that helped give rise to the widespread speculation here that the Canadian guy didn't do himself in. It's not the first time, and it surely won't be the last here in LFS - Land of Fake Suicides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 It is definitely correct that he had committed suicide. We trust the royal Thai police so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) In this case, if the attackers had just rendered the guy unconscious first -- instead of nearly beating him to death -- and then hung him, the autopsy and inquest probably would never have concluded it was murder / death at the hands of another. But then, this being Thailand, they typically don't have to worry about covering themselves for such details. Edited August 5, 2017 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Prisoners die in the cells while waiting trial. In this case, the court even inquest say murder. Any other democratic country with a decent rule of law will be at an uproar demanding answers and even a commission set up to seek answers. Yet we have the junta PM and his appointed police chief keeping silence and seem not interested. Showed their poor level of governance, responsibilities and accountability to the citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I assume this doesn't enhance the reputation if the police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Life is cheap here TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Swagman Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) What never ceases to amaze me here is that now the brother has to 'consider' what to do next. Why, if murder (or any other legal transgression for that matter) is the finding, is it up to an individual to launch and prosecute an investigation? I know it obviously begs the question - who investigates the perpetrators if the investigating body itself is under suspicion of possible involvement, but surely somewhere there are honest and trustworthy individuals to whom this could be entrusted? Elliot Somchai Ness? Bueller, Bueller, Bueller? Edited August 5, 2017 by Sir Swagman grammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 18 hours ago, Artisi said: Of course they are suicide, all carefully investigated by the the unbiased perpetrators. and soo many banana peels on the high rise balconies .....tsk tsk tsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Prisoners die in the cells while waiting trial. In this case, the court even inquest say murder. Any other democratic country with a decent rule of law will be at an uproar demanding answers and even a commission set up to seek answers. Yet we have the junta PM and his appointed police chief keeping silence and seem not interested. Showed their poor level of governance, responsibilities and accountability to the citizens. Just as all the previous governments, civilian or military, elected or "appointed", have done Eric. When a senior police officer can be photographed cavorting with a known criminal fugitive on a jaunt to HK; then try and board a plane in Japan with a gun and bullets as carry-ons; and get totally away with it, what chance any reforms. Look at the crimes reported that seems to go now where. Whatever happened to the case of the billionaire who died in a very unusual road accident and whose shares had been the subject of fraudulent transfers? That involved an ex senior police officer and former MP. Murder doesn't seem to have the same connotations here, especially when the well connected hiso types are involved. The only progress has been cases which have attracted wide spread social media comment. Btw, all police chiefs have been appointed AFAIK. Don't hold your breath for any reforms - whichever government is in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 55 minutes ago, Sir Swagman said: What never ceases to amaze me here is that now the brother has to 'consider' what to do next. Why, if murder (or any other legal transgression for that matter) is the finding, is it up to an individual to launch and prosecute an investigation? I know it obviously begs the question - who investigates the perpetrators if the investigating body itself is under suspicion of possible involvement, but surely somewhere there are honest and trustworthy individuals to whom this could be entrusted? Elliot Somchai Ness? Bueller, Bueller, Bueller? You'd hope the police would pick this up automatically and pursue it. The DSI aren't there to investigate murders, especially when death occurs in their cells. Internal Affairs, Independent Police Complaints Commission, or some equivalent. Does one exist in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, greenchair said: I thought similar. That was beyond weird. So a sock is good for murder, a towel is undoubtedly a suicide! I guess a belt would constitute something between an accident and misadventure? Amazing Thailand. Edited August 5, 2017 by saminoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Going to take an awfully big envelope to get out of this one for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 18 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Absolutely no question.....hung by a towel?..... Hung by a towel by RTP arrest regulations he was not allowed to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles45 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 "Dare I suggest that it suited the US and certain members of the local constsbulary that the founder of the dark web met a similar end?." Yes, This guy had $100 million, why suicide when others have bought their way out of trouble here with a lot lss in assets than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenifer d Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 21 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: Jail ‘self-hanging’ a killing: Court The Criminal Court on Friday ruled that a former land official who died last year while in custody of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) was killed. Tawatchai Anukul, a former official wanted for illegally registering land deeds for about 1,000 plots in Phuket and Phang-Nga, made headlines last year when he was found dead while being detained by DSI in August last year. At the time, it was said that Tawatchai hanged himself. The court, however, has ruled that there is no evidence about who killed Tawatchai during his detention. DSI officials earlier said Tawatchai had hanged himself by attaching a sock to his detention room door. His death occurred just one day after he was arrested for wrongfully exercising his duties as an official of the Provincial Land Department. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30322802 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-08-04 obviously so he couldn't implicate the big fish that he fudged the land deeds for; i would bet that the recent Alpha Bay founder "suicide" was also murder for same reason, the big fish who were allowing him to operate here didn't want any heat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 55 minutes ago, jenifer d said: obviously so he couldn't implicate the big fish that he fudged the land deeds for; i would bet that the recent Alpha Bay founder "suicide" was also murder for same reason, the big fish who were allowing him to operate here didn't want any heat... Hello Jenifer - how you doing? Good I hope. Either as you say, and perhaps he was threatening to spill the beans unless they let him go; or he received a beating that went to far and this was the cover up plan. But for this to happen, in DSI custody is really horrendous and demands a real full scale investigation. But they're won't be one. So we'll never know who and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack61 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 21 hours ago, Cadbury said: Thai justice will always remain in the slow lane. A year to work out that someone (hereafter referred to as the killer) helped him hang himself with his sock. Expect another 10 years or more for "justice" to find the guilty party "not guilty". Justice is non-existent in Thailand. Expect none this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Who would kill a land official? This is heinous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Swagman Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Doubt a belt would be good for murder or suicide. Definitely as an accessory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Off topic trolling posts and replies have been removed. This case is not about Yingluck and the Four Season Hotel meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 22 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Absolutely no question.....hung by a towel?..... Socks ?,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 21 hours ago, Moti24 said: Am I missing something here? Yes! Very interesting! I think he unwound the socks and knitted a rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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