PM warns yellow shirts against political activities

[rooster59]

PM warns yellow shirts against political activities

By The sunday Nation

 

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday warned the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) not to make any political moves that breach laws, arguing that legitimacy based on rights secured under the constitution cannot be claimed for every action.

The PAD plans to submit its petition to the National Anti-Corruption Commission tomorrow, as part of its efforts to ensure justice for its yellow shirt allies who were the focus of police action in the October 2008 crackdown.

 

The Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders on Wednesday acquitted Somchai Wongsawat, his deputy Chavalit Yongchaiyudh, then-police chief Pol-General Patcharawat Wongsuwan, and then-Metropolitan police chief Pol-Lt-General Suchart Muenkaew. The four were found not guilty of their involvement in the crackdown, which took place in front of Parliament. Somchai had attempted to enter Parliament to deliver his government’s policies but was blocked by protesters. The incident left two people dead and more than 400 injured.

 

In response to the court verdict, the PAD on Friday held a press conference to declare its stance. Its key figures make a commitment that the group would explore every legal channel to ensure justice for their comrades. Some political observers remained concerned that the group would resume large street demonstrations.

 

Prayut said the law is the law, and that permission must first be obtained before making any moves,   apparently referring to street protests. The public gathering law remains in place, said Prayut. Street action may violate additional laws and claiming legitimacy based on the constitution is not acceptable, he added.

 

“It’s not that we shun freedom of expression,” insisted Prayut. “You can hold a gathering, but it should not violate other laws, so people should be made aware about this fact.” The prime minister acknowledged that the constitution secures fundamental rights but added that peace and order also depend on enforcement of relevant laws.

 

Prayut also urged concerned parties to respect the ruling, saying the best way to deal with the case is working through legal channels.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30322935

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-08-06

 

[Cadbury]

A token

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

“It’s not that we shun freedom of expression,” insisted Prayut

Unbelievable statement! Another sanctimonious and hypocritical outburst from PM Prayut. It deserves a poem.

He goes on to say “you can hold a gathering, but it should not violate other laws.....".........Presumably that same law which says such gathering must not exceed more than 5 people. Or is he referring to a different law for "Yellow Shirts"?

For appearances sake Prayut and Prawit have to be seen to be unbiased so a token slap on the wrist with a wet lettuce leaf for the yellow shirts.

[yellowboat]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Prayut also urged concerned parties to respect the ruling, saying the best way to deal with the case is working through legal channels.

The best way is to be heard

[seminomadic]

"The law is the law" he says.... except when it comes to not prosecuting his corrupt brother, of course.

[YetAnother]

4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

claiming legitimacy based on the constitution is not acceptable, he added.

huh ? then what is the constitution for ?

[sandemara]

I wonder how long this topic will be allowed to remain open.

I find it difficult to separate the gobbledygook from the big lies that litter the Thai political landscape.

[Chris Lawrence]

7 hours ago, YetAnother said:

huh ? then what is the constitution for ?

spot on.

[Srikcir]

11 hours ago, rooster59 said:

legitimacy based on rights secured under the constitution cannot be claimed for every action

No surprise there.

Thai people have seen that demonstrated for every constitution abolished by military coups and rewritten by junta surrogates. The 2017 Constitution is an exception in that it actually provides for military circumvention of the Constitution with suspension of the People's rights and liberties in times of potential threats to national security.

Thai constitutions are living documents - they live and die to serve the oligarchy.

 

[greenchair]

11 hours ago, YetAnother said:

huh ? then what is the constitution for ?

There are other people's rights in the constitution also. 

The right to live peacefully. 

The right to go to work and provide a living for family. 

The right to vote for who you choose. 

The protests are crippling this country and they have got to stop by all sides. People need to accept the rulings of the courts, respect voters choice and fight through the legal channels available. 

They can have a gathering in the right way, that does not infringe on other peoples rights. 

[baboon]

15 minutes ago, greenchair said:

There are other people's rights in the constitution also. 

The right to live peacefully. 

The right to go to work and provide a living for family. 

The right to vote for who you choose. 

The protests are crippling this country and they have got to stop by all sides. People need to accept the rulings of the courts, respect voters choice and fight through the legal channels available. 

They can have a gathering in the right way, that does not infringe on other peoples rights. 

'Except where...' That is what is wrong with this constitution. 

[wakeupplease]

“It’s not that we shun freedom of expression,” insisted Prayut.

 

Tell that to Facebook and the rest of the Internet and see what they say not to mention the twerking girls and facebook people who share

[greenchair]

17 minutes ago, baboon said:

'Except where...' That is what is wrong with this constitution. 

I totally agree. But in looking at the last constitution, the rights of a few often trampled on the rights of the many. 

 

[baboon]

57 minutes ago, greenchair said:

I totally agree. But in looking at the last constitution, the rights of a few often trampled on the rights of the many. 

 

But was it that previous constitutions have been at fault rather than their guardians?

Moving on, I fear that the Thai people will be horrified when the current one really begins to bite. They may have hoped for a swift vote then a return to the way it always was. However I think they will find out to their cost that this is not to be.

Dated but valid:

 

[Srikcir]

9 hours ago, baboon said:

Dated but valid:

I didn't listen to the whole recording after speaker Jade. He seemed to either misunderstand what electoral system Thailand will use in the next election or misrepresented that it was the same systems used in Germany and other countries. Jade's inaccuracies are likely explained by the video being outdated as baboon states.

 

In fact the adopted new system called the Mixed-member apportionment (MMA) is not the same as Germany's Mixed-member proportional (MMP) electoral system. The CDC did initially visit Germany during its elections to obeserve the use of its MMP. But subsequently the CDC created the MMA which CDC Meechai has stated is not used in any other nation's electoral system. Because there's no "Thainess" in other nations' electoral systems, Thailand must use its own unique electoral system.

 

In that light Jade's comments regarding Thailand's proposed electoral system are largely obsolete.

[greenchair]

12 hours ago, baboon said:

But was it that previous constitutions have been at fault rather than their guardians?

Moving on, I fear that the Thai people will be horrified when the current one really begins to bite. They may have hoped for a swift vote then a return to the way it always was. However I think they will find out to their cost that this is not to be.

Dated but valid:

 

That was really interesting thank you. 

What I enjoyed about it was the 3 speakers were able to express their point of view without mud slinging and pointless blaming. 

After seeing such well educated academics with different views all fighting for thailand , I have a renewed faith that thai people will eventually find their way to an acceptable form of government , and that it can be done without protests and violence .

In a couple of decades.