If Brits were 3% less stupid there would be no Brexit.

[Ricardo]

12 hours ago, sanemax said:

Did you not  realise that there was a national referendum and all Brits had one vote each to decide ?

"all Brits had one vote each"

 

Except for those under-18, who will nevertheless be affected by it for the remainder of their lives, and those who've lived overseas for 15+ years, and those who couldn't be bothered to register to vote  ...

 

I myself did vote "Leave", but would not think it undemocratic if we had the chance to exercise our votes again, once the actual terms-of-leaving have been negotiated  ...  as the SNP were (I think ?) proposing they should, 18-months into the leaving-process ?

[sanemax]

Just now, Ricardo said:

"all Brits had one vote each"

 

Except for those under-18, who will nevertheless be affected by it for the remainder of their lives, and those who've lived overseas for 15+ years, and those who couldn't be bothered to register to vote  ...

 

I myself did vote "Leave", but would not think it undemocratic if we had the chance to exercise our votes again, once the actual terms-of-leaving have been negotiated  ...  as the SNP were (I think ?) proposing they should, 18-months into the leaving-process ?

 Yes, under 18's cannot vote  because they are deemed to not to be able to come to an intelligent decision .

   Those who have emigrated permanently  have lost their right to vote on UK  and people who choose not to vote , were still eligible to vote .

   Every adult in the UK had the right to one vote , that is democracy in action

 

[elliss]

12 hours ago, Bastos60 said:

 

What is democracy if the people base their vote on the uneducated assumptions from populist politicians.

          Do   you mean Nigel Farage ,  playing his immigrantion  card , and  misleading the  voters.

           UKIP  is a bad memory , so is  Farage who is now focusing on Trumpland,   what a  chancer .

          Best of british , my  arse .

Edited August 9, 2017 by elliss

[Gary A]

The Brits are, if nothing else, very resilient. The huge problems in the past make Brexit look like only a bump in the road. Once the dust settles from this bump, the UK will emerge stronger than ever. As it is, the UK still has one or maybe both hands tied behind its back. Once the country is back in their control of their own destiny, it won't take long to prosper.

[oldhippy]

1 minute ago, Gary A said:

The Brits are, if nothing else, very resilient. The huge problems in the past make Brexit look like only a bump in the road. Once the dust settles from this bump, the UK will emerge stronger than ever. As it is, the UK still has one or maybe both hands tied behind its back. Once the country is back in their control of their own destiny, it won't take long to prosper.

Are you aware of the fact that you lost India?

[Gary A]

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

Are you aware of the fact that you lost India?

 

That would be difficult for me to know because I had no idea that I ever had India. By the way, I'm not a Brit. I just happen to admire SOME of them.

[ELVIS123456]

17 hours ago, trd said:

18 hours ago, Jay1 said:

Strange that, because it would seem the people who are apparently more intelligent don't understand the word democracy

Even more intelligent people would realise that the point you raise about democratic principles is completely different and unrelated to the issue discussed in the OP.

I just gotta say that what the world needs less of is over-educated idiots.

You know what I mean..................taught to articulate an argument, but just cant figure things out.

 

 

 

[OJAS]

10 hours ago, gummy said:

Well even more reason for doing away with Public and Grammar schools by the example of your post.  They do not even teach you how to spell correctly, the correct use of capitalisation,  nor being grammatically correct. So perhaps the UK,  now having such poor standards of education, may be another reason for the Brexit "yes" vote ?

 

9 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I'm pretty sure you have just confirmed the results of the study.

 

Irony appears to be lost on you pair, doesn't it?

[lungbing]

We didn't lose India, they asked for independence, we gave it.  The same with 99% of all other former colonies.  The other 1% decided to stay with the UK.  And the handovers generally went very smoothly.

[i claudius]

I think it was the smart people who actually voted for Brexit.

 

 

Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ace of Pop]

Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

[sanemax]

You could quite easily put another spin on this story : 

University educated middle class Brits would rather pay Eastern Europeans, who live five to a room and live off a loaf of bread and a fish , or swan, caught from the river , a day, cheap rates , rather than pay a British worker to do their decorating, build an extension , serve them a coffee , paying a livable wage to them

    Cheaper to pay Eastern Europeans to survive  rather than pay British people a living wage, who have a mortgage and family to support

[Ace of Pop]

You could quite easily put another spin on this story : 
University educated middle class Brits would rather pay Eastern Europeans, who live five to a room and live off a loaf of bread and a fish , or swan, caught from the river , a day, cheap rates , rather than pay a British worker to do their decorating, build an extension , serve them a coffee , paying a livable wage to them
    Cheaper to pay Eastern Europeans to survive  rather than pay British people a living wage, who have a mortgage and family to support

Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

[i claudius]

Her degree in media studies will qualify her for a life on the social. With lots of debt lol

Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

[Kwasaki]

On 8/9/2017 at 4:40 PM, Gary A said:

 

That would be difficult for me to know because I had no idea that I ever had India. By the way, I'm not a Brit. I just happen to admire SOME of them.

Well no worries that was a cheap shot,  How about Afghanistan,  Vietnam,  Korea,  just mention a few that went well.  

[A1Str8]

On 8/8/2017 at 9:32 PM, sanemax said:

Did you not  realise that there was a national referendum and all Brits had one vote each to decide ?

Did you not realize that voting and related laws were created to maintain a facade, according to which you have a say in the matter, but in reality(which most people refuse to deal with) you don't. 

[sanemax]

24 minutes ago, A1Str8 said:

Did you not realize that voting and related laws were created to maintain a facade, according to which you have a say in the matter, but in reality(which most people refuse to deal with) you don't. 

Voting was created for people to vote for their Government , just as a facade , so people just think that they are voting and they are mot really electing their Government ?

[sirineou]

Let me qualify my opinion by saying that I am American..

 I know My response is a bit  wordy .  

I don"t believe Believe Brits are more or less educated. Perhaps marginally more, perhaps marginally less , but not significantly divergent from countries with its level of development to make a difference. 

If we knew more we would have done differently.....

 20/20 hindsight.

If my Grandma had a penus they would call her Grandpa.....   

It is what it is. So what is it? 

We are at a transitional time, one that has only happened a few times in human history, 

From the industrial era, to the information era, and as with any transition, there is displacement, so there is with this transition. 

We are in a state of flux, we have one leg in the industrial era and one leg in the info era. Very hard for people to keep their balance.

People are scared, and when people are scared they do strange things.

Every good salesman knows the following: The fear of loss is much greater than the desire for gain.

No one is better in sales than Politicians, They played on people's fear of losing what they have worked so hard for  as opposed to what they had to gain from remaining in .

Here in the US we got some of the same , and were sold a bill of goods and a Trump. 

Could we use to be a little more educated?   Sure!!  will there ever be a time when we would not?

 

 

Edited August 12, 2017 by sirineou

[emilymat]

I wonder if Brexit influenced anyone else's life in Thailand.?  I was in the process of leaving here and settling in Spain. The £ was trading at 1.40 euro at that time and I worked it all out in a budget of rent etc and could afford the move. Then Brexit and suddenly £ fell like a stone and is now 1.10 if you're lucky!  Plans had to be abandoned and now I'm an economic prisoner in Thailand!!   

 

Still, could be worse I suppose. We have our 'freedom' back.

[A1Str8]

On 8/10/2017 at 6:54 PM, sanemax said:

Voting was created for people to vote for their Government , just as a facade , so people just think that they are voting and they are mot really electing their Government ?

They don't think they vote. they actually vote it just doesn't make a difference. no government has ever been elected by the people. it's elected by a small group of people who determined in the first place, who you can vote for. 

[sanemax]

9 minutes ago, A1Str8 said:

They don't think they vote. they actually vote it just doesn't make a difference. no government has ever been elected by the people. it's elected by a small group of people who determined in the first place, who you can vote for. 

To which Country are you referring too ?

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, A1Str8 said:

They don't think they vote. they actually vote it just doesn't make a difference. no government has ever been elected by the people. it's elected by a small group of people who determined in the first place, who you can vote for. 

A recent example: a small group of people (within the :"democrat" party) determined that Americans could not vote for Sanders.

 

[A1Str8]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

To which Country are you referring too ?

all

[JHolmesJr]

disgusting liberal rag the independent….casting aspersions on the mental faculties of voters now that their agenda has been up-ended.

 

truly puke-worthy.

 

[plachon]

On 8/9/2017 at 5:29 AM, Gary A said:

What is wrong for the Brits wanting to take their country back from the socialists? Why would they have wanted to keep their boat tied to a sinking ship? It's only a matter of time before the huge socialist experiment collapses of its own weight.

It is exceedingly obvious that you have little idea of the meaning of "socialist", the nature of the EU, nor the political-economic interests of the UK from your post. I am guessing you are one of the millions of deluded Yanks, who collectively fail to realise your own nation will "collapse", well before the EU goes down the plug hole. Trump is doing his level best to speed up its sad, but inevitable demise. Adopting mild "socialism" might have saved it. Look at average age of mortality over last 50 years, if you don't believe me. 

[billd766]

On 09/08/2017 at 3:15 PM, oldhippy said:

Are you aware of the fact that you lost India?

 

Are you aware that the UK did NOT lose India but actually gave it back in good working condition as we did with most colonies.

[lungbing]

And a few even refused independence and are still colonies, or the modern equivalent.

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, lungbing said:

And a few even refused independence and are still colonies, or the modern equivalent.

Northern Ireland?

Gibraltar?

Malvinas?

 

[Ace of Pop]

Singapore seems to have done rather well, but then they thrash Yobs, Thieves, Vandals whilst the West gets em Social Services , stupid Nanny State, more interested in being PC than careing for the Non PC "old uns" that had Balls back then. Just watch the replies from Drippy Liberals now, these wimpy buggers teach our Kids dont foreget. 

[billd766]

13 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Northern Ireland?

Gibraltar?

Malvinas?

 

 

Where are the Malvinas?

 

They never were/are a British protectorate AFAIK.

Edited August 23, 2017 by billd766
bad spelling