No Boonsong bail request to be made today

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No Boonsong bail request to be made today

By The Nation

 

BANGKOK: -- The lawyer of former commerce minister Boonsong Teriyapirom said he will not submit on Tuesday a request for the disgraced former politician to be released on bail.

 

Narin Somneuk said he will have to first meet with Boonsong at Klong Prem Central Prison to discuss the reasons and conditions for seeking bail.

 

Narin said he will meet with Boonsong, sentenced to 42 years in jail for approving fake rice-export deals during the previous government’s tenure, at the prison at 1pm on Tuesday.

 

Boonsong and 19 others were sentenced to jail terms ranging from 24 years to 48 years for their roles in bogus government-to-government export deals announced during the Yingluck Shinawatra-led administration’s rice-pledging scheme.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30325176

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-08-29

 

[halloween]

Thailand is coming into the real world where those convicted wait there appeals IN jail. Boonsong is getting the message that if he wants his appeal expedited or his bail considered, he should name who ordered the scam (BP today).

 

Cue the conspiracy theorist with some deep state BS.

[worgeordie]

If I was Boonsong,i would be looking for a much better lawyer,

if he ever gets bail,he will be on his toes and off.

regards worgeordie

[candide]

3 hours ago, halloween said:

Thailand is coming into the real world where those convicted wait there appeals IN jail. Boonsong is getting the message that if he wants his appeal expedited or his bail considered, he should name who ordered the scam (BP today).

 

Cue the conspiracy theorist with some deep state BS.

Interestingly enough it is a Junta's puppet (Meechai) who states he should speak out about the "mastermind" if he wants to survive in an appeal. 

Now we understand why he received an abnormal sentence of 42 years. Nothing political about it! 

[tomwct]

He knew this was coming. He knew he was Guilty, so just start serving your 42 years! Amazing Thailand!

[The Deerhunter]

23 minutes ago, candide said:

Interestingly enough it is a Junta's puppet (Meechai) who states he should speak out about the "mastermind" if he wants to survive in an appeal. 

Now we understand why he received an abnormal sentence of 42 years. Nothing political about it! 

Catch 22 for him.  He could presumably have had the sentence halved if he had pleaded guilty but part of the condition would probably have been "Who told you to do it?"   And that would have been a death sentence: (As a 42 years term will be, but the other one would have been quicker.)

[halloween]

23 minutes ago, candide said:

Interestingly enough it is a Junta's puppet (Meechai) who states he should speak out about the "mastermind" if he wants to survive in an appeal. 

Now we understand why he received an abnormal sentence of 42 years. Nothing political about it! 

Your basis that the sentence, for multiple counts of major fraud, corruption and abuse of office, is abnormal is that it was political. Now you state it was political because the sentence was abnormal. Why don't you just face it, it was neither.

 

BTW reduction of sentence for naming other conspirators is called plea bargaining, the basis of the US justice system, and in practice, used in most countries.

[halloween]

42 minutes ago, candide said:

Interestingly enough it is a Junta's puppet (Meechai) who states he should speak out about the "mastermind" if he wants to survive in an appeal. 

Now we understand why he received an abnormal sentence of 42 years. Nothing political about it! 

May I refer you to todays's BP. In a case involving a government employee defrauding the government of B138 million, she was given 20 years while her co-conspirators, not public officials, were given 13+ years on the same offence (State v Sorrayuth Suthassanachinda, Montha Theeradet, and   Pichapa Iamsa-ard ).

Now you wish to claim that a government MINISTER, who betrayed the trust placed in him to the tune of B20 billion, is both abnormal and political. On what grounds?

[candide]

22 minutes ago, halloween said:

Your basis that the sentence, for multiple counts of major fraud, corruption and abuse of office, is abnormal is that it was political. Now you state it was political because the sentence was abnormal. Why don't you just face it, it was neither.

 

BTW reduction of sentence for naming other conspirators is called plea bargaining, the basis of the US justice system, and in practice, used in most countries.

There have been many comments in the press stating that a sentence of such a high number of years was surprising and far above the "norm" for similar crimes.

 

And now, we have a Junta's puppet openly proposing him a deal. If he denounces a "mastermind", his appeal may be successful. We all now who is targeted as mastermind, someone who's name starts by "S".  

 

Edited August 29, 2017 by candide

[halloween]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

There have been many comments in the press stating that a sentence of such a high number of years was surprising and far above the "norm" for similar crimes.

 

And now, we have a Junta's puppet openly proposing him a deal. If he denounces a "mastermind", his appeal may be successful. We all now who is targeted as mastermind, someone who's name starts by "S".  

 

Which press would that be? Voice of Thaksin, Peace TV or something similar because BP and Khaosod English certainly didn't. In fact KSE went out of their way to show the links back to Thaksin - Apichart and Siam Indica. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2017/08/25/yingluck-minister-sentenced-decades-prison/

 

Not sure if that link is allowed, apologies if it is not.

[ukrules]

I didn't realise there were this many people sentenced in this case.

 

How many former MP's and Ministers have not been put in prison for decades ?

 

Did the new government just lock up all of the most influential people from the former government ?

[candide]

1 hour ago, halloween said:

Which press would that be? Voice of Thaksin, Peace TV or something similar because BP and Khaosod English certainly didn't. In fact KSE went out of their way to show the links back to Thaksin - Apichart and Siam Indica. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2017/08/25/yingluck-minister-sentenced-decades-prison/

 

Not sure if that link is allowed, apologies if it is not.

I checked and did not find comments in the press as I stated. Actually they were comments on TVF. My mistake.

It nevertheless remains that a Junta's puppet openly offering a deal if he denounces a "mastermind" (understand a Shinawatra) says much about the independence of the judiciary.

[halloween]

58 minutes ago, candide said:

I checked and did not find comments in the press as I stated. Actually they were comments on TVF. My mistake.

It nevertheless remains that a Junta's puppet openly offering a deal if he denounces a "mastermind" (understand a Shinawatra) says much about the independence of the judiciary.

It's about time the "great champion of democracy and the downtrodden" got shown clearly for what he is, nothing but a common criminal using government to cover up his thefts. Why you consider the judiciary compromised is beyond me. Meechai is not part of the junta, and he is just stating a well known fact - implicating your accomplices is grounds for sentence reduction.

[candide]

29 minutes ago, halloween said:

It's about time the "great champion of democracy and the downtrodden" got shown clearly for what he is, nothing but a common criminal using government to cover up his thefts. Why you consider the judiciary compromised is beyond me. Meechai is not part of the junta, and he is just stating a well known fact - implicating your accomplices is grounds for sentence reduction.

It will be difficult to convince anyone that Meechai is independent from the Junta. 

Edited August 29, 2017 by candide

[Dave67]

I've had to resort to the "Ignore" feature today, 2nd one in 8 months, I have the patience of a Saint

[Dave67]

Whooooof gone

[Dave67]

[Jonah Tenner]

5 hours ago, Dave67 said:

I've had to resort to the "Ignore" feature today, 2nd one in 8 months, I have the patience of a Saint

I have not found that feature yet...

[Dave67]

11 hours ago, Jonah Tenner said:

I have not found that feature yet...

You will find it believe me

[Jonah Tenner]

6 hours ago, Dave67 said:

You will find it believe me

I did... Had to search a little though.

[Dave67]

1 hour ago, Jonah Tenner said:

I did... Had to search a little though.

comes in handy sometimes.I think it was easy to find there would half of Thai visa posters ignoring the other half.