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Elon needs money.... https://autolifethailand.tv/official-price-tesla-model-y-discount-june-2025/

A Bangkok Post 10 June 2025 article...see link below for full article.....a few key paragraphs extracted from the article are quoted below. Sales for new and used vehicles is looking worst for this year (2025) according to the Fast Auto Show organizers. https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/3046407/car-industry-seeks-easier-loans-amid-weak-sales Car industry seeks easier loans amid weak sales Fast Auto Show organizers say slowdown could worsen if lenders remain wary PUBLISHED : 10 Jun 2025 at 18:10 Thai automobile sales executives are urging the government to quickly devise new measures that could nudge banks to grant more auto loans to prospective buyers, seeking to lift both the new and used car markets. The Thai automotive market remains critically weak as banks and car financing companies have maintained their strict lending criteria to avoid non-performing loans as household debt remains elevated. Both new and used vehicle markets will continue to slow this year under these circumstances, according to the industry. Car sales in Thailand last year reached the lowest level in 14 years at 572,675 units, a year-on-year decrease of 26%. Without help from the government, domestic car sales are likely to keep slowing down in the second half of this year, said Mr Asadavut. He expects total car sales in the country to be lower than 520,000 in 2025, attributed to buyers’ difficulties obtaining auto loans, weak consumer purchasing power and the sluggish economy. Prices of used internal combustion engine (ICE) cars have already fallen by 50% as electric vehicles (EVs) are becoming more popular, said Pinyo Tanawatcharaporn, the owner of the second-hand car company Yo Ratchada and former president of the Association of Used Car Dealers. The prices of certain EV brands continue to decrease, causing people not to buy used ICE cars, he said.

That's for sure as I'd probably crash before 1km. The closest I got to the drifting experience is as a teenager I did an "unplanned" 360 degree spin in a Chevy on an icey road one winter morning when turning onto a main road after giving the car a little too much gas that caused the spin. I was caught completely off guard. For the second or two I was in that complete circle spin I figured the car is going to crash off the road....but no, the car straightened out perfectly straight on the road as I turned the front wheels in the opposite direction of the spin...and then I was going straight again like I was a movie stunt driver.

No signs of being slippery in rain at over 41,000 Km....as mentioned earlier they have a wet grip rating of B on the A to E scale with A having the best wet grip. I expect to get an A web grip rating the rubber compound would need to be really soft which would then result in shorter lifespan "kilometers-wise."

Yeap....those tires slow clear signs of "drifting".....probably in a Big C parking lot showing off. https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZXI5bmllbG9oYW56aG1kdjUxdjVjdHQxdHZjZzBvNXh0Nnp6bGdlOSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/k2evHZ2EvAV5m/200.gif

Well, since you estimate around a 100 meters wire run will be needed the installer is probably going to quote you an additional price for 90 meters of wire. The "current" BYD free charger installation promotion includes 10 meters of installation wire (it use to be 15 free meters when they installed my charger back in later 2023)....any thing above that 10 meters you pay for. Unless something has changed the cost "per additional meter is around Bt300 which includes the wire (which is actually 3 wires...Line, Neutral, and Earth), conduit, misc stuff, and labor." 90 times Bt300 comes to Bt27,000. But that Bt300/meter price is probably based in not having to install a long length past the 10 free meters. Example: a residence needed 15 meters to accomplish the install....10 meters is free and the additional 5 meters costs Bt1500 (5 times 300). I would hope in your case it would not be Bt300/meter if the wire run is not labor and conduit install intensive...hopefully a much lower amount per meter. https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/byd-sealion-6-dm-i-june-2025-campaign

Wow!!!!....you really need to stop burning rubber, drag racing, drifting, racing people from stop lights, taking hairpin corners at 100KmH!!! 😜😉 Seriously though, preaching to the choir when I say how long a tire lasts depending on factors such road conditions...how they are driven... quality of tire...type of rubber compound (i.e., soft for better grip, medium, hard for longer lasting, etc)...whether a summer, winter, or all seasons tire...weight of vehicle....beginning thread depth which can vary greatly depending on tire, etc....etc...etc....determine how long a tire will last. My 2023 Atto that I bought in Oct 2023 (around 20 months old) now has 41,532km on its Altas A51 (a.k.a., Batman) tires...215/55R18 95V tires are still it good shape....still have 6.5mm of thread depth remaining. With the "wear nubs" at 2mm (i.e., tire thread is worn out/minimal) I still have 4.5mm more to wear down before hitting those wear nubs....heck, I might be able to get 100,000km out of these tires. These Atlas A51 tires are summer tires, Fuel Efficiency B rating, Wet Grip B, Speed Rating V up to 240KmH, Quiet Noise (67db) rating, original thread depth 8mm. I'm not recommending these tires to anyone (but I'm happy with them).....they are the OEM tires that came with my Atto....I'm just talking how they have been holding-up on my EV. https://e-catalog.com/ATLAS-BATMAN-A51-215-55-R18-95V.htm Altas A51 tire after 20 months of driving....41,542km Tire thread depth remaining approx 6.5mm...when new 8mm....wear nubs are at 2mm

Where you say, "....they're ready for a change...", do you mean they are almost wore out/close to the tire wear nubs after only 13,000Km?

I'm assuming in the middle of the chart that the 2,013 registration is for Jan 2024 reflecting end of 2023 sales/promotions finally getting registered in Jan 2024. If correct it appears starting in early 2024 Neta fortunes turned south quickly with only 216 registrations in Feb 2024. Made "some" recovery thru 2024 but really didn't approach the much better sales year of 2023 with registrations only reaching 985 in Jan 2025 from end of 2024 sales/promotions. And then registrations fell to 288 in Feb 2025 and are trending downwards since a lot of bad news about Neta's financial problems started hitting the Chinese and Thai media. When I see a Neta on the road now I feel kinda sorry for the owner as the owner is surely worried if his/her Neta is going to lose support and more value in the near future. Based on what I reading in newspapers quite a few Neta owners have their vehicles in a shop awaiting parts/repair/warranty support that may or may not come any time soon although Neta is saying it's new Parts Distribution Center in Nakhon Pathom will help the situation. Below 9 June 2025 Bangkok Post news article gives a good summary of Neta and its owners current situation along with the overall EV industry/market in Thailand. https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motoring/3045587/chinese-ev-maker-neta-woes-pose-threat-to-thai-car-dealers Chinese EV maker Neta woes pose threat to Thai car dealers PUBLISHED : 9 Jun 2025 at 18:23 WRITER: Nareerat Wiriyapong

Based on my experience in the BYD wall charger installation (done by ENSUS which had the BYD contract) I didn't see any price gouging...pricing seemed fair on the invoice which was free for me as it came with my BYD Atto....but they did tell me in advance if I need extra wire beyond the free 15 meters worth (i.e., from main circuit panel to charger) that it would cost X-amount per meter...my install didn't end-up requiring any extra wire beyond the free 15 meters. And all wire remained within/on walls/ceiling; no underground wire. Now since it sounds like part of your cable run might be underground to your charger on a stand then that means it will probably have to be "NYY-G" wire which is typically what required for underground wire....it's more expensive than wire used within buildings/not buried. NYY wire insulation is much more resistance to water and chemicals in the ground than regular wire used "within" buildings/walls/ceilings. From your main circuit panel to a 32A/7KW charger the required wire size in 10mm2. Nothing really special about the stand...it's like the stand in Bandersnatch picture, but it wouldn't surprise me if the installer is not also talking about an enclosure box to go on the stand for added security and environmental protection. Now if the outdoor wire is staying above ground the installer might be talking "THWN" wire which is often used as "service drops" from the power lines down to the electric meter....it's tough wire...withstands rain, shine, bad weather, etc. The installer should be able to easily/quickly give you an estimated price of "parts and labor"....and give you more "specifics" on the "wire type" he's talking about.

Is that hills/islands in the background OR Tesla/Neta stock market price?😜

I think that is only for Model Year 2023 (MY23) Seals that are still in stock vs the latest model year MY24/25. BYD trying to clear out previous year models. https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/byd-super-seal

I would recommend you try to register for a TOP acct directly at the TOP login site....that is, click the "Create an Account" right above the Username. That is what the wife and I did several years ago when DSLogin was going thru another one of its periodic temper tantrums relating to just logging into DSLogin or being able to login into DSLogin but then having problems in accessing a site (like TOP) thru the DSlogin portal....problems that would sometimes cause a person to get locked out of DSLogin for 31 days. We were both surprised we were able to create an account for direct login (or should I say recreate our direct login credentials which we had had before we started using DSLogin)...direct login with.no need to go thru DSLogin. In the wifie's case her attempt succeeded the first try; but in my case I had to tried several times because at the very end of the process there was some error message saying they didn't get a DEERS response in time where they verify you are loaded in DEERS. It was like DEERS didn't respond to some TOP request....but there was no "Sorry Charlie" type message saying no can do as I have been previously accessing TOP via DSLogin. I tried creating an acct a few more times over the ensuring hours and finally I succeeded....I guess TOP and DEERS started communicating better. Been smooth sailing ever since in terms of logging into TOP, submitting claims, checking claims status, downloading EOBs, etc. Good riddens to TOP login via DSLogin. We did not use VPN access as the VPN access seemed to slow down, make the connection glitchy .....and we still don't to login to DSLogin, MyAuth, TOP, etc., using a VPN connection...,that is, the military related websites....makes sense with US military active duty, retirees, dependents located all over this big Earth. And if I remember right there was no 2FA verification process during the acct creation process like needing to send a code to whatever phone number you have loaded in DEERS. We were surprised we were able to recreate our direct login because a several years earlier when trying to do such we couldn't as we would just get the "Sorry Charlie, no can do since you can already access via your DSLogin acct" type message at the very end of the attempted account creation process which uses data only you will know like some data/numbers off your mil ID card that is bucked against data in DEERS. I think what happened is so many people were having problems with DSLogin the powers dropped the requirement of only allowing login by DSLogin "if that is how you accessed TOP" one time.....that one time access to TOP via DSLogin then deleted your TOP direct login credentials and you were now stuck with only being able to login via DSLogin which would be fine if DSLogin wasn't so temper mental periodically. But I think there were so many problems with DSLogin that TOP started allowing a person to recreate direct login (i.e., not thru DSLogin) due to the interface DSLogin problems. DSLogin problems such as not being able to log into DSLogin, or a person could log into DSLogin but then not being able to connect to TOP thru DSLogin because TOP and DSLogin were having connection/interface problems. Anyway, I would recommend you try creating direct TOP login (whether or no you had direct login before).....as you "may" not get the "Sorry Charlie..." type error message saying no can do because you have been accessing via DSLogin. Then again, maybe TOP and DSLogin has once again closed the door of creating a TOP direct login if you have DSLogin credentials. It don't hurt to try....all that can happen is you get a Sorry Charlie type error message at the end of the TOP acct creation/registration process. And if you are successful, DO NOT access TOP via DSLogin again as doing so would probably kill-off you TOP direct login credentials....it's not like you can access "both" way....it's either one or the other, but not both. Cheers.

Probably mostly made-up of those Neta vehicles that certain Neta dealerships sold for around Bt300K "with no warranty"....pretty much an "As Is" buy.

Definitely read the AutoLifeThailand article which is an interview/Q&A with the Neta Thailand HiSo's. Definitely does not look good. I expect by the end of this month/June there will be something more definitive on Neta's fate. Yea, read below article....lots of revealing Q&As. https://autolifethailand.tv/neta-auto-thailand-4-june-2025/ messageCar newsNew car June 5, 2025 Updated: June 6, 2025 NETA Auto Thailand Current Situation June 4, 2025 Executive Interview Sun Baolong / Chen Yinbin NETA Auto Thailand List of executives interviewed today Sun Baolong Mr. Sun Baolong, Head of Asia Business, Southeast Asia Region Mr. Chen Yinbin, Deputy General Manager of Neta Auto (Thailand) Co., Ltd. Is Neta still in Thailand? Executive Sun Baolong replied, “ If NETA in China is still there, NETA in Thailand will still be there. ” However, it depends on the situation of the parent company Hozon Auto, NETA in China. We are doing our best because Thailand is our main base. Neta 's Shanghai headquarters has removed its logo due to the expiration of its lease. There was previously information that it would be moved to a new location. Where is it? Removed the logo because the head office in China was changed to Hongqiao, Shanghai. https://autolifethailand.tv/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/NETA_001.jpg Neta's short-term plan In June, there was a restructuring of the company, Neta in China, now has new investors, but it is not convenient to disclose which country the investors are, but can only reveal that they are investors from China and foreign countries, but Neta will choose only one group, not many groups. The proportion of shareholding of the new investors cannot be determined yet because it depends on the amount of investment. However, in the middle of June, there will be a change in the board of directors of Neta Auto (Thailand) Co., Ltd., with the names of the new investors joining the board of directors. There will be a debt restructuring, with the Chinese government taking control and witnessing the changes for the parent company in China. Announcing the restructuring of the entire company, both Neta in China and Neta in Thailand. After that, it will be a matter of announcing investors in order. ** AutolifeThailand believes that it may be the case that investors purchase the assets of Hozon Auto, the parent company, and have the parent company pay off all debts. https://autolifethailand.tv/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/NETA_002.jpg Will Neta Brand Still Exist After New Investors Come In? Whether the Neta brand will continue to use the old name depends on what the new investors think. But we want to use Neta as before. But for Thailand, Neta will be used as before. Neta Auto (Thailand) debt figures The debt figures are much less than China's, such as outstanding debts to dealers, outstanding debts to suppliers, outstanding debts to logistics companies, including outstanding debts to Bangchan, the manufacturer of NETA cars. They are trying to pay off all outstanding debts after reaching an agreement with new investors and financial support from the Excise Department, Thai government, but they still cannot say when all debts will be paid off because they have to wait for news from the parent company in China. AutolifeThailand estimates that Neta Auto (Thailand)'s current debt figure is at least 600 million baht. https://autolifethailand.tv/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/NETA_003.jpg How many NETA dealers are left now, out of the original number? Have we talked to the dealers about the current situation? Currently, there are about 40 NETA dealers remaining from the original 60 nationwide. There are no plans to expand further within the next 1-2 years. More than 20 dealers have already withdrawn. Dealers are selling V II cars at very cheap prices, only 300,000 baht, including selling X Display Cars. What happened? It is part of the dealers that have already withdrawn more than 20 branches, dumping cars in their stock (which can be seen from the dealers consigning their cars to the Gingkue EV Shop garage at prices ranging from 299,000 - 339,000 baht). For dealers who are still with Neta Auto (Thailand), we are trying to have a discussion about new prices, to be the same nationwide or to be the same promotion for all within this week. Dealers are not allowed to sell at lower prices anymore. Having such rules and regulations makes us see dealers having to dump stock by consigning for sale through the page of the garage, Minkkue EV Shop, they cannot dump their stock directly. https://autolifethailand.tv/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Photo_NETA-Spart-Parts-Distribution-Center.jpg Are cars still being manufactured at Bang Chan? Where do the parts come from? Currently, production has stopped because there are no parts to assemble into a car. We have to wait until new investors come in before production can start again. How much stock is left for NETA V II + NETA X? NETA V II has hundreds of stocks, approximately 400 of which have been agreed to be sold to a group of investors in mainland China. It may be exported to other countries or sold to Fleet to organizations or legal entities, but will not be sold to individual customers. NETA X is out of stock. https://autolifethailand.tv/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/unnamed.jpg Where are the spare parts manufactured? The factory in China has already closed down. Original stock that was previously ordered Some suppliers are still producing, so spare parts are still available. Neta admitted that we do not have enough capital to manage spare parts ourselves, so we have to use an agency to source spare parts from China to support this part. There are a lot of customers waiting for spare parts right now, such as the windshield, which has been waiting for 10 months and still hasn't arrived. What is the company's schedule for importing spare parts to support customers? Now, Neta hires a purchasing agency from China, then has a distributor in Thailand take over and sell to dealers in Thailand, continuing to provide customer service in terms of accident claims, not in terms of warranty. No cash flow, how to claim warranty, quality guarantee? You have to wait for funds from China first before you can claim the warranty money as usual with the dealer. https://autolifethailand.tv/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/A7BAC64E4DDE58D841E912B487E5F85A.jpg Neta has more than 22,000 customers. How will we take responsibility? Now there are almost no dealers left to provide service to customers. They have turned to using outside garages. Although some dealers have already withdrawn from sales, we still ask that dealers still maintain after-sales service to support the more than 22,000 customers in Thailand. However, it has to go back to when the parts will arrive. Spare Parts Distribution Center Neta Auto (Thailand) announced that it has signed a contract with Nakhonchaisri Automobile Co., Ltd. to be responsible for spare parts, but is currently figuring out how to manage the spare parts. Outstanding payment, logistics company, parts still haven't been released. The company is clearing the payment to the logistics company so that the parts can be released. Neta still owes money to the logistics service company. Now, the debt is being cleared so that the parts can be released. They will be forwarded to the distributor to distribute the parts to the dealers and continue to serve the customers. https://autolifethailand.tv/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/neta_excise.jpg Signed MOU with Excise Department, how much Bank Guarantee was provided? The company has placed a Bank Guarantee with the Excise Department, but the figure cannot be disclosed because it is an internal matter of the company. However, this amount is more than the amount of debt that Neta Auto (Thailand) currently has. According to AutolifeThailand's collection, how many cars has Neta produced domestically so far? As of April 30, 2025, Neta has registered vehicles in Thailand. Imported from China NETA V 17,460 units NETA X 1,927 units Total 19,387 vehicles (EV 3.0 project produces 1 – 1.5 cars as compensation / EV 3.5 project produces 2 cars as compensation) NETA must produce at least 21,440 cars as compensation. Made in Thailand NETA V II 3,069 units It is 14.31%. Summary: Neta Auto (Thailand) must produce at least 21,440 units, including government support of EV 3.0 150,000 baht per unit | EV 3.5 100,000 baht per unit, totaling at least 2,663,700,000 baht (two billion six hundred sixty-three million seven hundred thousand baht). https://autolifethailand.tv/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/neta_auto_thailand_4jun_2025_cover-final.jpg Executive Sun Paolong said that we are trying hard to come back. We admit that the situation and problems at the moment are very serious, but we will try to come back because Thailand is an important base for Neta.