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Senior police officers hold meeting to make preparations for Wednesday

Deputy Police Commissioner-General Pol Gen Wichian Pojphosiri held a meeting with senior metropolitan police officers and representatives of the army and city administration to make preparations for handling possible protests on Wednesday.

Metropolitan police chief Pol Lt Gen Adisorn Nonsee led commanders of nine metropolitan police divisions to attend the meeting.

The Special Branch Police and Crime Suppression Division also sent representatives to attend the meeting.

The meeting began at 9 am and is expected to last about 2 hours.

Source: The Nation - 28 May 2007

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The military have a history of not exactly seeing eye to eye with the Democrats actually. Even though the Dems are keeping a low profile right now some of their statemetns are not exactly pro-Junta. For example, Chuan believes Thaksin should be allowed to return and Abhisit has criticized attempts to inhibit PTV. Personally I think it far more likely that the Junta would prefer to see a group of the shall we say more maleable ex-TRT guys leading the next government if the Junta could influence the elction outcome.

The Democrats, as I understand it, were during the Thaksin days undergoing a period of change and rebranding aimed at leaving them ready to realistically contest and maybe win an election at the end of this decade or slightly later. As this change was still incomplete when the coup occurred the Dems did not really have a slate of outlined and well known policies or even a self-created image in the way TRT did. It is hard to predict if the coup has helped or hindered the Dems. The modernisers/reformers in the party may feel they have been put on the backfoot while the traditionalists may feel the poilitical conditions will suit them more. If they survive the dissolution it will be an interesting time to see how Thailands oldest party now evolve.

Very good post.

People should not forget that the Dems not have just the nice faces, but also an extremely nationalistic right wing, which is not what the party's name implies.

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Should they lead the government, I expect them to push for decentralisation of the administration, decentralisation of policy making, decentralisation of the budget, and less grip on local politics - the grassroots should learn how to run their lives themselves.

Interesting what you expect them to do.

Is that anywhere published as a formulated strategy or policy brought forward by the Democrats, and agreed upon as a their party program?

Please supply us with it.

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CNS deputy chief confident no violence on Wednesday

ACM Chalit Pukphasuk, deputy chairman of Council for National Security, expressed confidence Monday that no violence would break on Wednesday when rulings on electoral fraud cases against two major parties are made.

Air Force chief Chalit said he believes the people would heed the speech of His Majesty the King and would not cause any violence.

He said the people should wait to hear the rulings at home and would not allow themselves to be used as tools to create disturbances.

Source: The Nation - 28 May 2007

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Thai Rak Thai Party deputy spokesman Jatuporn Promphan, right, enters into a heated exchange with Ramkhamhaeng University student union leader Somchote Meechana at the party’s headquarters yesterday. Somchote led a protest against what he termed political interference in the university’s affairs.

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Executives of a banned satellite TV station set up by former members of Thaksin's Thai Rak Thai party yesterday said they would ask students of Ramkhamhaeng University to act as security guards at a rally they plan to hold on Thursday, May 31.

PTV executive committee deputy chairman Jatuporn Promphan said the station would enlist some 500 students to keep order at the Royal Plaza, the rally venue.

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Special Branch police monitor Ayutthaya province due to political activity

The Special Branch of the Royal Thai Police has instructed police officers to keep close watch on political activists in Ayutthaya province.

Ayutthaya Governor Mr. Chertpan Na Songkhla (เชิดพันธ์ ณ สงขลา) revealed that he has filed special instructions yesterday (May 27) to all District Chief Officers, and Local Administrative Officials to keep close watch on political supporters prior to the Constitutional Court's verdict on political party dissolutions on May 30th. The Ayutthaya Governor reports that no indications have arised to show that political groups are planning to march into Bangkok.

The governor has instructed local officials to determine the views and emotions of citizens pertaining to national and local politicians. Mr. Chertpan revealed that police officers have made security preparations in all areas, especially at government facilities. Citizens are asked to follow the Constitutional Court's verdict from their homes and to refrain from mass public gatherings.

Special Branch Inspector, Pol Col Nathasate Sarimarn (ณัฐเศรษฐ์ สาริมาน), revealed that Special Branch officers have alerted in 4 high risk areas, including Ang Thong, Ayutthaya, Pathum Thani, and Nonthaburi province. Officers report that only Ayutthaya province showed signs of political movements.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 28 May 2007

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Ramkhamhaeng Student Union distances itself from PTV

The Ramkhamhaeng University Student Union has distanced itself from a PTV rally scheduled for Thursday coinciding with the verdicts on two electoral fraud cases.

"PTV organiser Jatuporn Phromphan has claimed to mobilise up to 1,000 Ramkamhaeng students to join his planned protest; this is impossible as he has no more than 200 students loyal to him," student union chairman Sikkhanan Nulek said Monday.

Sikkhanan said the majority of student population lost trust in Jatuporn after realising that he was using his status as a university alumnus to advance his political agenda. Jatuporn is seen as close to ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

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I think number inflation is a problem here.

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Thai Rak Thai plead innocence

(TNA) - In a last-minute appeal for public sympathy, the embattled Thai Rak Thai Party (TRT) claimed it has "without grounds" been accused of plotting massive confusion and unrest during Wednesday's expected Constitution Tribunal rulings on electoral rigging charges filed against the former ruling party, acting TRT leader Chaturon Chaisaeng said Monday.

The acting successor to deposed premier Thaksin Shinawatra as TRT leader said the party had resolved to accept the outcome of the court verdict and never to protest the possibility that it might lead to dissolution of the party or preventing party executives from seeking re-election, Mr. Chaturon said.

The acting TRT leader reiterated that only a small number of the party's supporters and former MPs would gather, peacefully, to hear court rulings at party headquarters Wednesday (May 30).

Under no circumstances will TRT members resort to or support any violent means or raise a massive crowd to confront others hearing Wednesday's court verdict, Mr. Chaturon said, which many feared might trigger unrest in Bangkok.

Mr. Chaturon obliquely suggested that the appointed government, the coup makers, or the People's Alliance for Democracy (a coalition of anti-Thaksin groups) might be responsible for an alleged plot for hired demonstrators wearing red shirts to protest against the Constitution Tribunal, in the event that the TRT party is found guilty and dissolved or its party executives are punished.

The hired demonstrators might be mistaken for TRT supporters or remnants of the old regime only to smear and further damage the once-ruling party, Mr. Chaturon said.

He said such ''undemocratic'' developments would only worsen the situation, frame the TRT party and "rub salt into the wounds" of a country already damaged by last September's military coup.

If found guilty and banned from seeking re-election, Mr. Chaturon said, his TRT colleagues would help with the party's campaign in the next election by distributing posters or publicising party policies.

The Thaksin stand-in suggested that the Surayud cabinet must be very careful in considering to use emergency rule in the capital to contain possible unrest following the court rulings, otherwise the situation would turn from bad to worse.

Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said emergency rule, introduced under Mr. Thaksin in 2005, should be the last resort for the Surayud government to deal with the possible turmoil. "Nobody with a sound mind would endorse (such a move)."

The Democrats also face similar electoral rigging charges which could land similar penalties on the party or its executives.

Meanwhile, Interior Minister Aree Wong-araya said he had set up a task force headed by Interior Ministry permanent secretary Phongphayom Wasaphuti to monitor a speculated influx of provincial residents to the capital, especially those headed to demonstrate at the Constitution Court Wednesday.

Provincial governors and other officials have been instructed to keep the ministry's peace-keeping task force promptly informed of such large-scale movements, he added.

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Thai Rak Thai plead innocence

(TNA) - In a last-minute appeal for public sympathy, the embattled Thai Rak Thai Party (TRT) claimed it has "without grounds" been accused of plotting massive confusion and unrest during Wednesday's expected Constitution Tribunal rulings on electoral rigging charges filed against the former ruling party, acting TRT leader Chaturon Chaisaeng said Monday...

Mr. Chaturon obliquely suggested that the appointed government, the coup makers, or the People's Alliance for Democracy (a coalition of anti-Thaksin groups) might be responsible for an alleged plot for hired demonstrators wearing red shirts to protest against the Constitution Tribunal, in the event that the TRT party is found guilty and dissolved or its party executives are punished....

The Thaksin stand-in suggested that the Surayud cabinet must be very careful in considering to use emergency rule in the capital to contain possible unrest following the court rulings, otherwise the situation would turn from bad to worse....

Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said emergency rule, introduced under Mr. Thaksin in 2005, should be the last resort for the Surayud government to deal with the possible turmoil. "Nobody with a sound mind would endorse (such a move)."...

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You sure have to admire the pretense to objectivity and neutrality on the part of the Thai press...

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He said such ''undemocratic'' developments would only worsen the situation, frame the TRT party and "rub salt into the wounds" of a country already damaged by last September's military coup.

short selective memory ,

democracy had been badly damaged well before that .......................................

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The military have a history of not exactly seeing eye to eye with the Democrats actually. Even though the Dems are keeping a low profile right now some of their statemetns are not exactly pro-Junta. For example, Chuan believes Thaksin should be allowed to return and Abhisit has criticized attempts to inhibit PTV. Personally I think it far more likely that the Junta would prefer to see a group of the shall we say more maleable ex-TRT guys leading the next government if the Junta could influence the elction outcome.

The Democrats, as I understand it, were during the Thaksin days undergoing a period of change and rebranding aimed at leaving them ready to realistically contest and maybe win an election at the end of this decade or slightly later. As this change was still incomplete when the coup occurred the Dems did not really have a slate of outlined and well known policies or even a self-created image in the way TRT did. It is hard to predict if the coup has helped or hindered the Dems. The modernisers/reformers in the party may feel they have been put on the backfoot while the traditionalists may feel the poilitical conditions will suit them more. If they survive the dissolution it will be an interesting time to see how Thailands oldest party now evolve.

Very good post.

People should not forget that the Dems not have just the nice faces, but also an extremely nationalistic right wing, which is not what the party's name implies.

I think you've misunderstood the post, colonel. He's saying the Democrats have historically opposed juntas and the junta would prefer to deal with TRT MPs who are more 'malleable', meaning able to exploit, ie without ideals.

A very good post.

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The military have a history of not exactly seeing eye to eye with the Democrats actually. Even though the Dems are keeping a low profile right now some of their statemetns are not exactly pro-Junta. For example, Chuan believes Thaksin should be allowed to return and Abhisit has criticized attempts to inhibit PTV. Personally I think it far more likely that the Junta would prefer to see a group of the shall we say more maleable ex-TRT guys leading the next government if the Junta could influence the elction outcome.

The Democrats, as I understand it, were during the Thaksin days undergoing a period of change and rebranding aimed at leaving them ready to realistically contest and maybe win an election at the end of this decade or slightly later. As this change was still incomplete when the coup occurred the Dems did not really have a slate of outlined and well known policies or even a self-created image in the way TRT did. It is hard to predict if the coup has helped or hindered the Dems. The modernisers/reformers in the party may feel they have been put on the backfoot while the traditionalists may feel the poilitical conditions will suit them more. If they survive the dissolution it will be an interesting time to see how Thailands oldest party now evolve.

Very good post.

People should not forget that the Dems not have just the nice faces, but also an extremely nationalistic right wing, which is not what the party's name implies.

I think you've misunderstood the post, colonel. He's saying the Democrats have historically opposed juntas and the junta would prefer to deal with TRT MPs who are more 'malleable', meaning able to exploit, ie without ideals.

A very good post.

No, i did not misread that post at all. I just did not state the obvious but have commented on a point brought up in the second paragraph. And what may break your admiration for the Democrats, don't forget - but our favorite nasty piece of work - Samak - was once high level member of the Democrats.

Face it - the Democrats are in European terms (and in the more enlightened parts of Asia such as India) a very conservative, if not right wing, party, with a frightingly extremist extreme right wing. Unfortunately the slightly left parties that once existed in Thailand are not so anymore. That would be a good and necessary balance.

Right wing conservative parties, including the Democrats here in Thailand, are not generally known for changing the status quo. For those reforms we need the input of left leaning parties.

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OK Guys, seeing as I’m feeling charitable tonight, I’ll give you the full, unexpurgated Mobi Prediction:

1. On May 30th, the constitutional tribunal will find both political parties guilty.

TRT will be disbanded, and its officers will not be allowed to be involved in politics for 5 years. The Democrats, will receive a “rap on the knuckles’ for minor infringements of the rules but will be allowed to continue their role as a political party.

2. On May 30th, the Army will be on full alert and the tanks will reappear on the streets for few days.

3. On May 30th certain key figures in TRT – all strong Thaksin supporters – will be taken into protective custody.

4. There will be minor outbreaks of violence in various provinces, which will be summarily be put down by the army.

5. On or around May 30th The CRD will declare martial Law.

6. On or around 30th May, Gen Sarayud will resign as prime minister.

7. On or around 30th May, another General will be installed as the new PM. Probably Gen Sonthi.

8. The elections will be pushed back to late 2008, citing the need to restore public order; more time required to re-write the constitution; and to give political parties more time to become involved in the political process.

9. Gen Sonthi, and other key figures in the CRD will either join existing parties – e.g. Chart Thai, or form their own, new parties. None will align themselves with the Democrats.

10. When the elections are finally held in late 2008, or 2009, the government will be composed of a coalition of the new and minor parties, and the Democrats will become the main opposition. The prime minister will be from a military background and will have the support of the armed forces who will continue to play a major role in the governing of the Kingdom.

11. It will be a further 5 years before democracy in Thailand approaches what we had in the early 2000’s, before Thaksin made his grab for power.

12 Thaksin will never return to Thailand.

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The military have a history of not exactly seeing eye to eye with the Democrats actually. Even though the Dems are keeping a low profile right now some of their statemetns are not exactly pro-Junta. For example, Chuan believes Thaksin should be allowed to return and Abhisit has criticized attempts to inhibit PTV. Personally I think it far more likely that the Junta would prefer to see a group of the shall we say more maleable ex-TRT guys leading the next government if the Junta could influence the elction outcome.

The Democrats, as I understand it, were during the Thaksin days undergoing a period of change and rebranding aimed at leaving them ready to realistically contest and maybe win an election at the end of this decade or slightly later. As this change was still incomplete when the coup occurred the Dems did not really have a slate of outlined and well known policies or even a self-created image in the way TRT did. It is hard to predict if the coup has helped or hindered the Dems. The modernisers/reformers in the party may feel they have been put on the backfoot while the traditionalists may feel the poilitical conditions will suit them more. If they survive the dissolution it will be an interesting time to see how Thailands oldest party now evolve.

Very good post.

People should not forget that the Dems not have just the nice faces, but also an extremely nationalistic right wing, which is not what the party's name implies.

I think you've misunderstood the post, colonel. He's saying the Democrats have historically opposed juntas and the junta would prefer to deal with TRT MPs who are more 'malleable', meaning able to exploit, ie without ideals.

A very good post.

No, i did not misread that post at all. I just did not state the obvious but have commented on a point brought up in the second paragraph. And what may break your admiration for the Democrats, don't forget - but our favorite nasty piece of work - Samak - was once high level member of the Democrats.

Face it - the Democrats are in European terms (and in the more enlightened parts of Asia such as India) a very conservative, if not right wing, party, with a frightingly extremist extreme right wing. Unfortunately the slightly left parties that once existed in Thailand are not so anymore. That would be a good and necessary balance.

Right wing conservative parties, including the Democrats here in Thailand, are not generally known for changing the status quo. For those reforms we need the input of left leaning parties.

I don't think he implies anything in the second paragraph about the Democrats being 'frighteningly extremist extreme right wing', rather they were reforming themselves.

I think TRT's name sums up their position nicely- 'Thais love Thais', so left wing!

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The military have a history of not exactly seeing eye to eye with the Democrats actually. Even though the Dems are keeping a low profile right now some of their statemetns are not exactly pro-Junta. For example, Chuan believes Thaksin should be allowed to return and Abhisit has criticized attempts to inhibit PTV. Personally I think it far more likely that the Junta would prefer to see a group of the shall we say more maleable ex-TRT guys leading the next government if the Junta could influence the elction outcome.

The Democrats, as I understand it, were during the Thaksin days undergoing a period of change and rebranding aimed at leaving them ready to realistically contest and maybe win an election at the end of this decade or slightly later. As this change was still incomplete when the coup occurred the Dems did not really have a slate of outlined and well known policies or even a self-created image in the way TRT did. It is hard to predict if the coup has helped or hindered the Dems. The modernisers/reformers in the party may feel they have been put on the backfoot while the traditionalists may feel the poilitical conditions will suit them more. If they survive the dissolution it will be an interesting time to see how Thailands oldest party now evolve.

Very good post.

People should not forget that the Dems not have just the nice faces, but also an extremely nationalistic right wing, which is not what the party's name implies.

I think you've misunderstood the post, colonel. He's saying the Democrats have historically opposed juntas and the junta would prefer to deal with TRT MPs who are more 'malleable', meaning able to exploit, ie without ideals.

A very good post.

Are you suggesting that the junta is NOT interested in bringing democracy to Thailand- but rather in finding a bunch of stooges it can manipulate to its own advantage?

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I fear there is a lot of truth there Mobi ,

and democracy won't be the only thing repressed to pre 2000 levels ,

and I sincerly hope we're both wrong .

Edit to add the extra zero .

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OK Guys, seeing as I’m feeling charitable tonight, I’ll give you the full, unexpurgated Mobi Prediction:

1. On May 30th, the constitutional tribunal will find both political parties guilty.

TRT will be disbanded, and its officers will not be allowed to be involved in politics for 5 years. The Democrats, will receive a “rap on the knuckles’ for minor infringements of the rules but will be allowed to continue their role as a political party.

2. On May 30th, the Army will be on full alert and the tanks will reappear on the streets for few days.

3. On May 30th certain key figures in TRT – all strong Thaksin supporters – will be taken into protective custody.

4. There will be minor outbreaks of violence in various provinces, which will be summarily be put down by the army.

5. On or around May 30th The CRD will declare martial Law.

6. On or around 30th May, Gen Sarayud will resign as prime minister.

7. On or around 30th May, another General will be installed as the new PM. Probably Gen Sonthi.

8. The elections will be pushed back to late 2008, citing the need to restore public order; more time required to re-write the constitution; and to give political parties more time to become involved in the political process.

9. Gen Sonthi, and other key figures in the CRD will either join existing parties – e.g. Chart Thai, or form their own, new parties. None will align themselves with the Democrats.

10. When the elections are finally held in late 2008, or 2009, the government will be composed of a coalition of the new and minor parties, and the Democrats will become the main opposition. The prime minister will be from a military background and will have the support of the armed forces who will continue to play a major role in the governing of the Kingdom.

11. It will be a further 5 years before democracy in Thailand approaches what we had in the early 2000’s, before Thaksin made his grab for power.

12 Thaksin will never return to Thailand.

Mobi, if you're wrong will you do the honourable thing and commit suicide Thai Visa style as the colonel once did?

Naturally in a Buddhist nation you will be born again, under a different name and form.

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The military have a history of not exactly seeing eye to eye with the Democrats actually. Even though the Dems are keeping a low profile right now some of their statemetns are not exactly pro-Junta. For example, Chuan believes Thaksin should be allowed to return and Abhisit has criticized attempts to inhibit PTV. Personally I think it far more likely that the Junta would prefer to see a group of the shall we say more maleable ex-TRT guys leading the next government if the Junta could influence the elction outcome.

The Democrats, as I understand it, were during the Thaksin days undergoing a period of change and rebranding aimed at leaving them ready to realistically contest and maybe win an election at the end of this decade or slightly later. As this change was still incomplete when the coup occurred the Dems did not really have a slate of outlined and well known policies or even a self-created image in the way TRT did. It is hard to predict if the coup has helped or hindered the Dems. The modernisers/reformers in the party may feel they have been put on the backfoot while the traditionalists may feel the poilitical conditions will suit them more. If they survive the dissolution it will be an interesting time to see how Thailands oldest party now evolve.

Very good post.

People should not forget that the Dems not have just the nice faces, but also an extremely nationalistic right wing, which is not what the party's name implies.

I think you've misunderstood the post, colonel. He's saying the Democrats have historically opposed juntas and the junta would prefer to deal with TRT MPs who are more 'malleable', meaning able to exploit, ie without ideals.

A very good post.

Are you suggesting that the junta is NOT interested in bringing democracy to Thailand- but rather in finding a bunch of stooges it can manipulate to its own advantage?

I'm referring to 'Hammered', not me, I suggested nothing.

In my opinion the government and CNS would both be happy to see a democratic government back in power,

Khun Surayud and General Sonthi are not power crazy figures, but the latter especially, has to protect his back once power is handed over, otherwise he could be in big trouble.

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I don't think he implies anything in the second paragraph about the Democrats being 'frighteningly extremist extreme right wing', rather they were reforming themselves.

I think TRT's name sums up their position nicely- 'Thais love Thais', so left wing!

Please, don't misquote me. That is not what i have written.

And as to my voluntary disappearance - that was because the vehemence of personal attacks and insults against me by certain posters became intolerable. This though has changed. I hope you are not going to restart. A good beginning would be to quote me correctly, please.

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Chaturon is worried that if there is any disorder following the ruling, or if ill-intentioned people disguise themselves as Thai Rak Thai Party supporters and create disturbances, the Council for National Security may blame the party for any turmoil.

Beyond absurd. :o

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Chaturon is worried that if there is any disorder following the ruling, or if ill-intentioned people disguise themselves as Thai Rak Thai Party supporters and create disturbances, the Council for National Security may blame the party for any turmoil.

Beyond absurd. :o

PTV rally is scheduled for May 31....

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The new television station was led by former Thai Rak Thai Party executives Veera Musigapong, Jatuporn Promphan, and Nattawut Saikua, as well as former government spokesman Chakraphob Penkhae.

- wiki

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PTV founder Veera Musikapong, a former Thai Rak Thai MP, said the station was established to serve the public and positioned as an alternative media outlet. "I am not saying that I am not a Thai Rak Thai man."

Several PTV news programmes that were unveiled would be hosted by TRT people and associates including Thana Benjathikul, lawyer of deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

- Asia Media

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nope... no connection to Thai Rak Thai Party whatsoever.... they're just a bunch of "ill-intentioned people who will disguise themselves as Thai Rak Thai Party supporters"

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Bangkok on high alert for violence

13,000 soldiers, police to be deployed in areas considered to be flashpoints; Democrats, TRT deny mobilising supporters

Security will be tightened in areas likely to be flashpoints for violence ahead of tomorrow's landmark rulings of the Constitution Tribunal on the electoral fraud cases against the country's two largest political parties.

A 13,000-strong combined force of police and soldiers will be deployed to maintain order and prevent violence, Council for National Security chairman General Sonthi Boonyaratglin said. He was speaking after a meeting of officials in preparation for judgement day.

There has been concern that supporters of the rival parties are likely to gather in great numbers in the capital and could cause trouble if they find the rulings disappointing.

From this afternoon, police will seal off the Constitution Tribunal building and search its compound to ensure no explosive devices have been planted, Police Lt-General Adisorn Nonsee, the Metropolitan Police commissioner, said.

He said the police would also secure nearby bridges tomorrow, when the tribunal is scheduled to read its verdicts on the separate cases against the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties, as well as three smaller political parties.

Police will work with military officers and city officials to prevent any violent incidents, Police General Vichien Pojphosri, a senior police commander in charge of security, said.

Hundreds of police officers will be stationed at Sanam Luang and the Royal Plaza, where Thai Rak Thai supporters are expected to gather, and at the headquarters of both the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties.

Authorities have been on alert after receiving intelligence that party supporters from the provinces are travelling to the capital. However, the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties have dismissed reports that they are mobilising their supporters.

Thai Rak Thai's caretaker leader Chaturon Chaisang yesterday accused the junta of spreading rumours to paint a bad image of the "old power clique" of which the party was a part.

The use of a backup military force, comprising another 43 companies from Bangkok-based Army units, if needed, would be "decisive" and "lawful", Army commander General Sonthi said yesterday.

Sonthi said he gave direct orders during yesterday's meeting with unit commanders that all soldiers participating in all security operations "must be unarmed" and would not be positioned in areas involving direct confrontations with protesters.

The 13,000-strong force comprises soldiers from 29 companies, Bangkok-based policemen and municipal policemen. Its main duty is to guard against possible violent incidents between supporters of Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties, or anti-junta activists and the soldiers themselves.

Police will concentrate their efforts on curbing anti-junta movements that could be supported by taxi motorcyclists and taxi drivers.

A police intelligence report warned that the groups, referred to as "mobs in red shirts", might operate across the capital to create disorder if the verdicts dissolve any of the parties, or both.

Bangkok police chief Pol Lt-General Adisorn Nonsee said all 88 police stations had been observing the group's ongoing movements and their expected activities in the next few days.

Checkpoints will be set up on major city streets to intercept their vehicles or make arrests in case the group members showed signs of disobedience.

Elephants will also be barred from entering Bangkok at this time.

A bomb threat was received on telephone at the Thai Rak Thai Party's former headquarters on New Phetchaburi Road yesterday morning.

The caller said explosives would be set off but did not specify at which TRT office the attack would take place.

The official who received the call at 10am then telephoned the party's new headquarters at Navasorn Building on Rama 3 Road. Security officials and two sniffer dogs were called in to search the building but found nothing suspicious.

Meanwhile, Chaturon has called a meeting of party members to ensure there are no disturbances tomorrow when the Constitution Tribunal rules on the party's possible dissolution.

Chaturon is worried that if there is any disorder following the ruling, or if ill-intentioned people disguise themselves as Thai Rak Thai Party supporters and create disturbances, the Council for National Security may blame the party for any turmoil.

The party plans to send a few members to hear the verdict but Chaturon has instructed all other party members and supporters not to go to the tribunal but to hear the verdict at the party's headquarters.

TRT has also asked the police to deploy 200 officers at its headquarters tomorrow to maintain security.

Areas where trouble could possibly erupt

Sanam Luang: Tomorrow, when the Saturday People Against Dictatorship plans an anti-coup rally. Popular Jatukam Ramathep amulets will be given away to gatherers.

The Royal Plaza: Thursday, when PTV plans a rally at a nearby location.

Headquarters of the two main parties involved: the Democrats, off Rama VI Road, and Thai Rak Thai at the Navasorn Building on Rama III Road.

Checkpoints will be set up at Pok Klao, Pin Klao and Krung Thon bridges

and on all roads connecting to them. These bridges and certain sections

of the roads will be closed if the protest becomes too large.

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Places to avoid

Areas with heavy police presence

l Within the Constitution Court compound on Chakra Phet Road, where only 500 people will be permitted inside.

l Around the compound, where 900 policemen and a back-up force

comprising an unspecified number of soldiers and municipal police will be

on duty. Only 3,000 supporters of both parties and onlookers will be allowed near the compound

Source: the Royal Thai Police

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Chaturon is worried that if there is any disorder following the ruling, or if ill-intentioned people disguise themselves as Thai Rak Thai Party supporters and create disturbances, the Council for National Security may blame the party for any turmoil.

It goes without words. :o

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White Dove 2006 group calls NCCC to prosecute PM

The White Dove 2006 group has submitted documents to the Office of the National Counter Corruption Commission to charge Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont with negligence of duty.

One of the leaders of the White Dove 2006 group, Mr. Nopparut Worachitwitthikul (นพรุจ วรชิตวุฒิกุล), traveled to the Office of the National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) to file a letter of grievance against Prime Minister Surayud for alleged negligence of duty under article 157 of Thai criminal law. Mr. Nopparut said that Gen. Surayud failed to prosecute the Royal Thai Army Commander- in- Chief, Gen. Sonthi Boonyaratglin, for filing for a marriage certificate twice.

The leader of the White Dove 2006 group revealed that he has urged the Prime Minister since January 3rd to prosecute the Army Commander in Chief but has not received a reply, therefore he is asking the National Counter Corruption Commission to handle the matter and to further prosecute the Prime Minister for negligence of duty. Mr. Nopparut affirmed that his group will conduct regular demonstrations to drive out the Council for National Security. The White Dove 2006 group will hold a rally in Udon Thani province at 16:00 on May 30th.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 29 May 2007

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One of the leaders of the White Dove 2006 group, Mr. Nopparut Worachitwitthikul (นพรุจ วรชิตวุฒิกุล), traveled to the Office of the National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) to file a letter of grievance against Prime Minister Surayud for alleged negligence of duty under article 157 of Thai criminal law. Mr. Nopparut said that Gen. Surayud failed to prosecute the Royal Thai Army Commander- in- Chief, Gen. Sonthi Boonyaratglin, for filing for a marriage certificate twice.

This is ridiculous. WTH are these people thinking? We, Thais, need to be united right now to move our country forward. This is not the time to keep playing stupid politics. I hope NCCC told them where to shove the letter.

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The military have a history of not exactly seeing eye to eye with the Democrats actually. Even though the Dems are keeping a low profile right now some of their statemetns are not exactly pro-Junta. For example, Chuan believes Thaksin should be allowed to return and Abhisit has criticized attempts to inhibit PTV. Personally I think it far more likely that the Junta would prefer to see a group of the shall we say more maleable ex-TRT guys leading the next government if the Junta could influence the elction outcome.

The Democrats, as I understand it, were during the Thaksin days undergoing a period of change and rebranding aimed at leaving them ready to realistically contest and maybe win an election at the end of this decade or slightly later. As this change was still incomplete when the coup occurred the Dems did not really have a slate of outlined and well known policies or even a self-created image in the way TRT did. It is hard to predict if the coup has helped or hindered the Dems. The modernisers/reformers in the party may feel they have been put on the backfoot while the traditionalists may feel the poilitical conditions will suit them more. If they survive the dissolution it will be an interesting time to see how Thailands oldest party now evolve.

Very good post.

People should not forget that the Dems not have just the nice faces, but also an extremely nationalistic right wing, which is not what the party's name implies.

I think you've misunderstood the post, colonel. He's saying the Democrats have historically opposed juntas and the junta would prefer to deal with TRT MPs who are more 'malleable', meaning able to exploit, ie without ideals.

A very good post.

No, i did not misread that post at all. I just did not state the obvious but have commented on a point brought up in the second paragraph. And what may break your admiration for the Democrats, don't forget - but our favorite nasty piece of work - Samak - was once high level member of the Democrats.

Face it - the Democrats are in European terms (and in the more enlightened parts of Asia such as India) a very conservative, if not right wing, party, with a frightingly extremist extreme right wing. Unfortunately the slightly left parties that once existed in Thailand are not so anymore. That would be a good and necessary balance.

Right wing conservative parties, including the Democrats here in Thailand, are not generally known for changing the status quo. For those reforms we need the input of left leaning parties.

I don't think he implies anything in the second paragraph about the Democrats being 'frighteningly extremist extreme right wing', rather they were reforming themselves.

I think TRT's name sums up their position nicely- 'Thais love Thais', so left wing!

Having missed this little debate on my earlier comments I feel I should just clarify that I was indeed only referring to the Democrats reinventing themselves and was not commenting on anything about how frightening they were! Chuan Leekpai must be about the least personally scary PM the country has ever had and probably the only one who came from a relatively modest background, lived in a small rented house and didnt leave office as some kind of billionaire. He also had the misfortune of leading the country after two periods of turmoil and havoc at the head of multi-party coalition governments. But I digress.

For what it is worth on this little debate, I have found the Democrats as a whole to be the least frightening party in Thailand in terms of scary characters (not talking policies here) although at times it has and does include a number of frightening guys, and of course this is all relative in world terms. The move of Yuth "dooyen" to TRT (funny how so many of the really nasty guys ended up in TRT) probably removed their most recent really scary guy although Suthep does have his moments. As it has been brought up, Samak was a long time ago a Dem before his own meglomania inspired him to leave and later form a vehicle for his brand of extreme nationalist ideology which eventually bit him in the *** by supporting a Dem government over Samak's party orders. Then of course later, and after his ill fated Bangkok flirtation with the Bangkok governership until it bored him a few years before the end of his term, Samak materialised as Thaksins greatest supporter and attack dog and recieved practical reciprocal support from the Thaksinistas in his senatorial crusade. This partnership was to such a level one was left wondering if they were lovers.

Anyway I think we are getting a bit off topic so that will be my last comment on this issue.

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One of the leaders of the White Dove 2006 group, Mr. Nopparut Worachitwitthikul (นพรุจ วรชิตวุฒิกุล), traveled to the Office of the National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) to file a letter of grievance against Prime Minister Surayud for alleged negligence of duty under article 157 of Thai criminal law. Mr. Nopparut said that Gen. Surayud failed to prosecute the Royal Thai Army Commander- in- Chief, Gen. Sonthi Boonyaratglin, for filing for a marriage certificate twice.

This is ridiculous. WTH are these people thinking? We, Thais, need to be united right now to move our country forward. This is not the time to keep playing stupid politics. I hope NCCC told them where to shove the letter.

The you ever hear of the advantage of pluralistic societies, in which open exchange of different opinions lead to true development?

The "unity" propagated by this government is called dictatorship.

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One of the leaders of the White Dove 2006 group, Mr. Nopparut Worachitwitthikul (นพรุจ วรชิตวุฒิกุล), traveled to the Office of the National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) to file a letter of grievance against Prime Minister Surayud for alleged negligence of duty under article 157 of Thai criminal law. Mr. Nopparut said that Gen. Surayud failed to prosecute the Royal Thai Army Commander- in- Chief, Gen. Sonthi Boonyaratglin, for filing for a marriage certificate twice.

This is ridiculous. WTH are these people thinking? We, Thais, need to be united right now to move our country forward. This is not the time to keep playing stupid politics. I hope NCCC told them where to shove the letter.

More than likely they will... this group has achieved nothing and is ignored by mostly everyone they come into contact with... which explains the preposterous escalation of their actions above.

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Cheers krab Khun Sriracha John. It's great to know that no one's taken them seriously.

And Colpyat, I think there's a fine line between constructive exchange of different ideas and asking the PM to step down on a pathetic and ridiculous ground.

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