aranimmigration Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Immigration Police officers at the Aranyaprathet border checkpoint arrested Mr. Scott with illegal drug pills (yaba) On March 19, 2005, at about 5 PM, Immigration Police officers at the Aranyaprathet border checkpoint arrested the UK citizen Mr. William Hurford Scott, age 30 years, and confiscated the following pieces of evidence: 1. 238 orange coloured illegal drug pills (yaba) with the characters WY 2. 2 green illegal drug pills (yaba) with the characters WY 3. One small light blue plastic bag to carry illegal drugs (yaba). These objects were hidden in the underwear of the accused. The accusation was made for importing and possessing illegal drugs of class 1 (yaba) in order to distribute. Mr. Scott was arrested at the Thai Immigration building at Khlongluek, Aranyaprathet, Srakaew Province. During the interrogation Mr. Scott confessed to having procured the 240 pills at Poipet town in Cambodia from a Cambodian middleman at 40 Baht each. He planned to resell the pills to tourists at Phatthaya, where he had been living for a long time. Mr. Scott was sent to Khlongluek Police Station for further investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto_manibo Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 (edited) What was this guy thinking? He is going to be in a world of pain...Posession, dealing and trafficking (importing into Thailand). Atleast 3 charges which can carry the death penalty.... Edited March 31, 2005 by pluto_manibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Bad as it was,he must have been set up,how often do they search farangs at that checkpoint,never. Its a warning to others that might try this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranimmigration Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 (edited) Edited March 31, 2005 by aranimmigration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I wonder what led them to want to take a look in his underpants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudgimelon Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I hate that Aran border crossing and will never go there again. I had to go through there the first time I came to Thailand to get a new stamp, and it was one of the most unpleasant experiences I've ever had. The mobs of street children demanding spare change and the unrelenting assault of husksters, hawkers and touts was just too much (in addition to the blistering heat and dust). Plus if my friend hadn't been walking behind me, I would have missed the kid trying to pickpocket my CD player out of my bag. This, of course, happening in plain sight in front of all the guards at the checkpoint. So either the kids are so desparate that they would brazeningly pickpocket someone even in front of the police, or the police don't care/get a kick-back. Either way, that border crossing is HORRIBLE, and to be avoided at all costs. Yes, it is probably the cheapest and quickest border-run available (just a quick bus ride and an over-and-back and you can be stamped in less than a day), but that doesn't compensate for the hassle and genuine peril you face. A nice overnight run to Laos really didn't cost me that much more than a Cambodia run, and it was FAR more pleasant. A nice, relaxing stay in quiet Laos beats a hectic, unsafe pass into Cambodia. That said, this guy looks like a complete moron, so he probably thought that running drugs was an "easy" way to make a little extra cash. How much is 240 pills at 40 baht a piece? Nearly 10,000 baht? Geesh, that's pathetic. Risking death and imprisonment over a few thousand baht, what a doofus!! Obviously drug addicts are not exactly adept at doing risk/reward analysis on possible business ventures. If so, this idiot might have noticed that death/prison is a very, very big risk. In business, risk costs money and is considered an expense, and so the "death/prison risk-cost" would have factored into the other costs of the trip (travel, procurement of product, etc...). Given the piddling amount of drugs this guy was transporting in his little "business adventure" there is NO WAY he could possibly hope to profit from it. In other words, he's just plain stupid. Let's hope the Thai authorities put him out of his misery quickly. Sometimes the death penalty isn't really a penalty at all, it's more like a mercy killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh101 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Why, why, why do they do this ? If he is lucky he will spend the next 30 odd years in jail. And it seems quite obvious he was set up. Mai khow jai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Obviously drug addicts are not exactly adept at doing risk/reward analysis on possible business ventures. If so, this idiot might have noticed that death/prison is a very, very big risk. In business, risk costs money and is considered an expense, and so the "death/prison risk-cost" would have factored into the other costs of the trip (travel, procurement of product, etc...). Given the piddling amount of drugs this guy was transporting in his little "business adventure" there is NO WAY he could possibly hope to profit from it.In other words, he's just plain stupid. Well said Pudgi. I wonder what the expected profit was... anyone know what the street value in "Phatthaya" is for these pills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 F****g up your life like this for 240 pills of yaba??? Well, You have to be really stupid! Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 (edited) Very sad. Although we can all say what an idiot, we should show some compassion. When addicted to this drug, one can do very silly things. Maybe he was addicted, I don't know, but if he were, the customs guys are trained to notice. Maybe he wasn't set up. How many times had he done this trip before? Maybe he is a plain idiot, but I don't think anyone can be that stupid. Drugs kill, in many different ways. Are all drug addicts stupid?? I know that when addicted to drugs, one would do ANYTHING to keep a supply. Maybe he wasn't trying to sell them for a profit. Edited March 31, 2005 by Neeranam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Sorry Pudgimelon, missed you post. You put it crystal clear. I could understand it for 240 kilos of coke or heroin (difficult to sneak into your underwear though) Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highwayman Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Were those photos of the border crossing taken on a long weekend? I've never seen even a tenth of the amount of people shown in those photos (even using a tele-photo lens) whenever l've crossed the border at Poipet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuchok Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 He could probably get between THB200 and THB350 each if he was selling to farang.This is an evil,evil drug.Maybe they were just for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknight Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Bloody idiot how can you be that stupid. Either way, that border crossing is HORRIBLE, and to be avoided at all costs. Yes, it is probably the cheapest and quickest border-run available (just a quick bus ride and an over-and-back and you can be stamped in less than a day), but that doesn't compensate for the hassle and genuine peril you face. It's not all that bad on the cambodian side. The border below Trat is very quiet and relaxed, friendly officers on both sides. almost no touts, no beggars at all. A litlle further from patty but worth the trip with a car though. Thanks aranimmigration for the nice pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 He could probably get between THB200 and THB350 each if he was selling to farang.This is an evil,evil drug.Maybe they were just for him? Do the maths... 240 tablets at say 300 baht each equals 72,000 baht. Hardly a lottery windfall is it? I'd guess personal usage only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meemiathai Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Sad is all I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Boy Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 He could probably get between THB200 and THB350 each if he was selling to farang.This is an evil,evil drug.Maybe they were just for him? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do the maths... 240 tablets at say 300 baht each equals 72,000 baht. Hardly a lottery windfall is it? I'd guess personal usage only. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If hes doing boarder runs every month its a dam sight more than teachers have to live on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHacker Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 In reality, what will be his fate? I guess he will be sentenced to 15-20 years??? Serve 10 here and then transferred back to Farangland to serve the rest of his term?? Anyone know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 He could probably get between THB200 and THB350 each if he was selling to farang.This is an evil,evil drug.Maybe they were just for him? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is this drug yaba so evil?? In my youth back in the UK we would sniff or eat speed regularly,everyone seemed to be doing it on friday and saturday night.Made me dance like a bellend and also had an unquenchable thirst for beer.It was good fun and no damage done.Yaba and amphetamine are one and the same right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I wonder what led them to want to take a look in his underpants? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> probably the phone call they got from the Cambodian that sold the yaba to him....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 If 20 years: 72000/20 = 3600 baht/year 3600/12 = 300 baht/month or 1 yaba pill/month What he's done must be sinking in now It's still a heck of a punishment when compared to rape or murder I feel for him, stupid or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuchok Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 He could probably get between THB200 and THB350 each if he was selling to farang.This is an evil,evil drug.Maybe they were just for him? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is this drug yaba so evil?? In my youth back in the UK we would sniff or eat speed regularly,everyone seemed to be doing it on friday and saturday night.Made me dance like a bellend and also had an unquenchable thirst for beer.It was good fun and no damage done.Yaba and amphetamine are one and the same right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yaba is totally different to your normal speed.The come down and mood swings during and after use of this drug can be dramatic.It is responsible for many murders and violent crimes here in LOS.I don't know how they "cook" it, but some of the chemicals involved can not be good at all. It is also extreamly addictive to most people. That's why the government renamed the drug from yama (Horse drug) to Yaba (crazy drug) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I feel for him, stupid or not. I don't. Thailand's laws on drugs and punishment for violating them are well known world wide. I'm sorry to say it, but som num na... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmadness Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 The Yaba is a far worse drug than Speed in the UK, I have never seen people turn into a.ssholes and start losing the plot so easily as after they have got hooked on the yaba and I knew a lot of people into all sorts at home. It take's people very quick as well and is very addictive. Add to this the effects of paranoia and need for a drug and being in a foreign country it really twists some farang minds. At least with doing Speed in England you can still keep touch with reality when you come down because in your home surroundings - friends, family about etc. I'd have to say the guy was probably addicted to it, and done the run as an 'idea' from one of the dealers he bought off to earn some extra cash, and might have not been a set up at all, if he went through immigration high as a kite it would have easily been noticeable by police and warranted a search. Gotta feel sorry for he guy really if this was the case, as in no frame of mind to make a rational decision, but of course they will not take this into consideration when sentencing to 20 yrs. I think it's easy for everybody to say he deserved it etc. but perhaps a little sympathy for a drug addict in a bad sitaution may be called for if that was indeed the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Pat Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 <deleted>. Bet he thought he could get away with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Boy Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Why is this drug yaba so evil?? In my youth back in the UK we would sniff or eat speed regularly,everyone seemed to be doing it on friday and saturday night.Made me dance like a bellend and also had an unquenchable thirst for beer.It was good fun and no damage done.Yaba and amphetamine are one and the same right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yabba is to Speed as Crack is to Cocaine, totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Boy Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 <deleted>.Bet he thought he could get away with it! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Clearly he must of thought he could get away with it, or he wouldn't of done it in the 1st place. There could be many different reasons for his alleged actions - profit,addiction,blackmail who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAtramp Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Possesion of that amount (has to be 15 +)is considered trafficking..Which carries a mandatory death sentence. Should with appeals etc etc be reduced to life = 99 years. Had he been American or Australian he might have been able to serve 8-12 years (minimum) before he was eligble for transfer to his own country to serve out a limited time. English..forget it. Best he can hope for besides a commute of the death sentence will be further reductions (maybe)50 years improsonment. Kings pardon...Rare these days. Sorry but his life is all but over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDN Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 What the h3ll do people need drugs for here? A tropical climate, friendly people, cheap living - what more do you want? Feel sorry for him? I don't want to feel anything for him, don't want to think about him. <deleted>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmadness Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 People use drug as an escape RDN, or an to increase pleasure even in a pleasant enviroment, that's why they use drugs, including drink. It's foolish to wonder why people use drugs given the reasons your've stated if you yourself enjoy a beer, just work out why you drink the beer and there's your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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