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Very amazing to see despite fact and evidence that some forumers continue to denied armed element in rank of UDD( blackshirt) existence.......
But international community recognize the fact that Black-shirt is the armed wing of UDD, and the former YL government has stopped all investigation about this......
see HRW report
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Now we understand why all UDD and black shirts investigations were suspended
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"...it is too soon to blame red shirts for Samui car bomb attack..."
But he doesn't reject the idea.......
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& how do you expect them to react to being attacked by their own army? Before the April 10 attack @ dusk their had been no violence. When they were being advanced on they responded.
Just as when the police tried to clear the PRDC they responded with shots & grenades at the police.
There had been loads of M79 grenade attacks before this clash. The protesters had been given loads of time to leave but they chose to fight.
Don't forget 2008 PAD protest, when RTP use explosive device against protester.......
Don't forget RTP violence against PAD protester
Don't forget soldiers who have been injured during the 2010 "peaceful" red terrorist protest.....
You can see behind the injured soldier a injured foreign journalistWhy foreign journalist need protection from soldier if UDD protest was "peaceful" ?
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Don't forget crime of red shirt terrorist : Children murders......
Short and selective memory from some posters here.
Thugs are sadly on both sides:
THAILAND-master675.jpgThis Sutheps peaceful whistle blowers attacking the police 2014
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general wife, so a good widow pension of 85.000 baht per month, right ?
Insult, cowardice and ignorance, a red shirt quality
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Not only, foreign media have the same evidence......
Quote from Human right watch world report 2012-2014 about Thailand :
« At least 90 people died and more than 2,000 were injured during violent political confrontations from March to May 2010. The loss of life resulted from the unnecessary use of lethal force by Thai security forces, attacks by armed elements operating in tandem with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), known as the “Red Shirts,” and incitement to violence by some UDD leaders. »
« The status of investigations into alleged crimes by UDD “Black Shirt” militants remained unclear, with the Yingluck government denying the group’s existence despite clear photographic and other evidence. A number of those accused of deadly attacks against soldiers, police officers, and anti-UDD groups were released on bail. The election of 12 senior UDD leaders as ruling Pheu Thai Party members of parliament raised serious concerns that they would be able to use their political influence and parliamentary immunity to evade accountability for their role in the 2010 violence. »
Human Right Watch put on light Red shirt lying..... perhaps HRW are in hand of yellow shirt.......
SORRY FOR YOU BUT THE WORLD KNOW THE TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's hope that The General agrees with your sources and allows the media to re-state this, which you included (unhighlighted) in your post:
"The loss of life resulted from the unnecessary use of lethal force by Thai security forces,"
There is a saying in the UK "it's six of one and half a dozen of the other".
I think your tenth rate "Napoleon" may only believe in "six of one".
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you forget the rest of sentence : "....attacks by armed elements operating in tandem with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), known as the “Red Shirts,” and incitement to violence by some UDD leaders."
You can find this source easily on internet, Oh sorry I forget Lanna redshirt country internet not allow this type of search.......
what does that means, if UDD did not attack and kill officials and civilians,whole tragedy would not have occurred. But UDD wanted to face army, now they will pay for consequence...
UDD strategist just use some leftist guerrilla method : attacks and harass officials and waiting for violent reaction from them....
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These types of threads always bring up too much democracy rhetoric. Western democracy is a republic founded to protect our individual rights to life, liberty, and happiness. Thailand is not a republic. If you all are going to banter about political philosophy, at least do it with some class.
Ok if I understand your mind a western democratic country is a republic ? What about Spain, Great Britain, Belgium, Nederland, Denmark, Sweden and Luxembourg ?
These counties are not a republic ! For you these countries are not democratics ?
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Slow down a sec guys..........
This thread is not about the violent red thugs (there are 100's of threads about that already)
This is about Mr P asking/begging/ordering the press to report his "truth".
Normally countries where that happens are called (you know what I mean).................
He just ask media to report True.
Media have pictures and videos of this night who clearly show that red shirt always denied : Violence come from red camps.......
Since most of the media are on yellow hands, why haven't those alleged pictures and videos not been published in five years??
Not only, foreign media have the same evidence......
Quote from Human right watch world report 2012-2014 about Thailand :
« At least 90 people died and more than 2,000 were injured during violent political confrontations from March to May 2010. The loss of life resulted from the unnecessary use of lethal force by Thai security forces, attacks by armed elements operating in tandem with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), known as the “Red Shirts,” and incitement to violence by some UDD leaders. »
« The status of investigations into alleged crimes by UDD “Black Shirt” militants remained unclear, with the Yingluck government denying the group’s existence despite clear photographic and other evidence. A number of those accused of deadly attacks against soldiers, police officers, and anti-UDD groups were released on bail. The election of 12 senior UDD leaders as ruling Pheu Thai Party members of parliament raised serious concerns that they would be able to use their political influence and parliamentary immunity to evade accountability for their role in the 2010 violence. »
Human Right Watch put on light Red shirt lying..... perhaps HRW are in hand of yellow shirt.......
SORRY FOR YOU BUT THE WORLD KNOW THE TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Slow down a sec guys..........
This thread is not about the violent red thugs (there are 100's of threads about that already)
This is about Mr P asking/begging/ordering the press to report his "truth".
Normally countries where that happens are called (you know what I mean).................
He just ask media to report True.
Media have pictures and videos of this night who clearly show that red shirt always denied : Violence come from red camps.......
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He means he wants the media to tell the "sanitized" version of events according to him. Never mind what the actual truth is.
Which sanitized version ?
God bless media for take a lot of photo of red shirt terrorist launch attack against official doing their duty.....
Only red lovers think Blackshirt never exist, perhaps a for of Alzheimer.
For international community it's a reality and evidence show it, show red shirt use weapon and violence against civilian, policemen and soldiers !
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Yeah...anti-semetic rants and hate- speech are forbidden in many places...and that is something else as criticizing or even insulting the President.
France have is lese majesty law too :
The offending the head of state is governed in France by Articles 23, 26, 36 and 37 of the law on freedom of the press of 29 July 1881, in order to punish offenses against public figures, protected because of the functions they occupy
Insulting the President of the Republic is punishable by a fine of € 12,000 under section 33, paragraph 1 of the Law of 29 July 1881 and defamation € 45,000 under Section 31 of the same law.
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So France is not now a good example of democracy because of it's pas colonial laws. It further confirms that these guys are under the modernity of the 50's.
You must te relearn your history, France has make a lot of harm to Thailand with his gunship diplomacy......
Preah Vihar is one of result of this colonial time, when English and French wanted to control Thailand
On the contrary, France protected the region, particularly Laos from Thai expansionism. If you recall the history, Thailand made an opportunistic land grab during WWII and the Vichy French pressured the Japanese to hold Thailand in check. Thailand was actively collaborating with Japan while other countries in the region were resisting the Japanese. A large part of the resistance movement was associated with the communists, while the 'military' faction was in the Japanese camp. Many people forget that the communists played an important role in removing the Japanese and then the French colonial forces. When we forget history, it tends to repeat itself.
In this time France just protect is interest, some part of Thailand has been steel by force by french colonial campaign...... France have during this time a diplomacy call gunship diplomacy, France want new territory in Thailand, Thailand said no, France send gunship and threaten to bomber Bangkok for forced Thailand to accept it..... this the glorious colonial history of France in this part of the world.....
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At least France has freedom of speech and you can say and write that president Hollande is an !d!ot without getting jailed.
Try that in Thailand.
you can try in France, you will be fall for defamatory...
There were some protesters who criticize Holland or Fromer president Sarkozy these people were arrest and detain by presidential security....
You cannot make any negative remark against power without have an investigation from police or see revenue inspector control you
In France there are not really freedom of speech......... you cannot criticize religion, a joke in a "lay" country....
Are you joking? You never read charlie hebdo? Just type charlie hebdo on google then image and enjoy the various cover pages dealing with political figures and others
Look humorist Dieudonné, government want to shut him.........
If you criticize Chaly hebdo you will have problem......
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At least France has freedom of speech and you can say and write that president Hollande is an !d!ot without getting jailed.
Try that in Thailand.
you can try in France, you will be fall for defamatory...
There were some protesters who criticize Holland or Fromer president Sarkozy these people were arrest and detain by presidential security....
You cannot make any negative remark against power without have an investigation from police or see revenue inspector control you
In France there are not really freedom of speech......... you cannot criticize religion, a joke in a "lay" country....
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So France is not now a good example of democracy because of it's pas colonial laws. It further confirms that these guys are under the modernity of the 50's.
You must te relearn your history, France has make a lot of harm to Thailand with his gunship diplomacy......
Preah Vihar is one of result of this colonial time, when English and French wanted to control Thailand
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UDD, had never any concern about the dead.
They are just hypocrites trying to make it a political issue for their gains and have no respect about anything as they proved before.
It is a black moment for the Thai history and should not be used for political purposes, but have some respect for the deceased.
rubbish again costas they have turned this INTO a political football by denying people the right to mourn
show some respect for the deceased
It's just an hypocrite move from UDD, this dead just serve their purpose, incite unrest. It's a typical move of leftist group.
For memory, UDD never recognize killing in rank of official who make their duty to restore peace and order. Despite fact, evidence and criticize from international community, UDD never recognize existence of armed element in their camp. In 2010 UDD tried to overthrow the institutions for the benefit of one man
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DCA must begun to use ICAO regulation, start inspection of all Korean carriers landing in Thailand, I'm sure they'll found that some problem
This post is parody, right?
ICAO blame Thailand about safety means It's time to correct this......
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And cause a drop in the all-important tourist arrival figures?DCA must begun to use ICAO regulation, start inspection of all Korean carriers landing in Thailand, I'm sure they'll found that some problem
It's just international regulation, when a foreign carriers landing in airport, it must be face to control by aviation authorities of the destination country.....
In June 2014, French DGAC blocked a thai carriers (JetAsia) in CDG for one month due to lack of maintenance documentation...
2013 to 2014 EASA inform ICAO about some problem in lack of maintenance of Korean Air A380........
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DCA must begun to use ICAO regulation, start inspection of all Korean carriers landing in Thailand, I'm sure they'll found that some problem
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Red shirt leader Nattawut Saikua said his group's objective in meeting the Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday was to ensure that the probe into the crackdown would continue in a transparent and fair manner.Translation : Nattawut scare that DSI will investigate on Red shirt 2010 crimes in transparent and fair manner without interference of their political allies......
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Oh nooo, more bad news for thai aviation.
Who will fly with any of them from now on? Not me or my collegues....
But this happened saturday? Then why it's in the news on tuesday??
This is a good example of exotic airlines in Thailand...
Those are carriers who give bad pictures of civil aviation in Thailand... old fleet with lack maintenance.
This is the main problem rise by ICAO since few year without fix by former "elect" government .................
All charter or small budget carriers in Thailand are under eyes of ICAO.......
Thailand has got 21 carriers only 8 reach ICAO standard.....
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IMHO - Thai International should be banned just for being STUPID. --- Painting over the logo puts them in the same classification as the suicidal bus companies of Thailand who paint over their unroadworthy junk having just killed the innocent.
If we follow your logic Air France would be ban too.......
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It is a common practice to paint over the Logo following an incident, although it does no good unless you paint the whole aircraft. Everybody knows the Livery of most airlines.
Why is the "H" are they bringing up something that happened in 2013 ??
Further, until the IACO releases to the public there findings there is a lot of unnecessary posting about something no one knows about. From what I have read it may be directed at the Air Ministry and not the major airlines in Thailand.
But, as usual everybody has to take a punch !!
Thai airways is not the only carrier to paint logo after accident, Air France do the same in 1993 with an A340
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