Swiss1960

I don't know who told you that? My PCX just passed the 5y mark 2 weeks ago, was in inspection and got tax, compulsory and first class insurance as usual.

6 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Thailand ranks 44th in Global Innovation Index 2020

Bunk beds will push them up at least 20 positions ????

Select an app like Speedtest by Ookla (see speedtest.net) which allows you to choose a server worldwide (they came 11'000 are available). They offer apps for iOs, Android,  Windows,  Mac etc

I am happy with it. I was previously looking for an app where I could enter a web address for testing, but didn't find any.

Also don't forget that big websites like Netflix have a variety of servers / DNA access points,  so you really don't know which server will be chosen and where through the connection will be routed. 2 tests to the same server within minutes can give you completely different results based on routing chosen and general internet traffic volume 

Not sure about the website, whether they post outages somewhere, but two options:

• Local PEA office in Jomtien, Phone 038-076260 (no idea whether they offer English language)
• PEA hotline 1129 with Option 1: Outage Notification (again, language?) or Option 9 for English speaking agent

Good luck

This is the TMN webpage in English: http://www.tmncabletv.com/en, go to "channel guide" and scroll down a little and you find the list of digital sports channels they provide. I don't think I ever saw any English football games provided live, but I am not really into this. 

Within the 600 and 700 channel area, they have some movie channels and news (BBC, Fox, Al Jazeera, ABC, French 24 etc), but not really a great choice for movies. Reliability is so-so, single channels quite often do not work or have audio / video unsynchronized. However, for the package price (3.500 Baht a year), I can live with it and my wife has all her favorite Thai channels available. For me, Netflix is more important when it comes to movies.

On 9/20/2020 at 12:06 AM, Captor said:

Hello

Thank you very much for the adresses and phone number. I have sent an email to them as you suggested. Very good. I hope they can English. Pity that they don´t have an English translated webpage. I have looked at English webpages in the US but not sure if they have the same cameras in Thailand. But that I will find out later if they answer. But a good thing about EZVIZ is that they don´t have 1 million different cameras. It makes my life more easy ????

Why are you not using the cloud anymore? Is that not the best solution when it comes to storing the data? I mean as you said a thief can steal the recorder or SD card. OK, it is possible to hide the recorder but maybe a smart thief can find it anyway.

From the app you can look into the cameras in real time and also whats stored on the hard drive/cloud SD card, right?

 

Yes, the app lets you look at each app in real time. You can have as many cams on the app as you want, there is no limit and you can sort the cams on your app with the more important ones showing first. Through the app, you can move the cams (pan and tilt), set alarms for motion detection and of course, look back into all the videos that are stored on the SD card or the cloud. When you have cams, mobile app, HD recorder and / or cloud out of one hand (no matter the name of the provider), it just makes everything more easy.

I do not use the cloud and HD recorder anymore for different reasons:

• Using a cloud at extra cost (EZVIZ is not that cheap) is kind of an "extra insurance" in case of theft. The valuables in my house - laptop, TV's - are all covered by my house insurance in case of theft. Nothing else could be stolen, no phones (they are with us when we leave the house), not money, no gold. 
• All cameras are in locations where a thief can not easily get to them, he would need a long ladder to take them down. Given the stupidity of most thiefs - just watch TV - they never even look whether there are CCTV cams, let alone try to take the cams down.
• A thief would not only need to take down my cams, he would also need to take down the ones of my neighbours, we kind of coordinated our cams so that each neighbour also has one cam looking at the front of the other house. On top, our house is in the middle of a moo ban and a thief would pass at least a dozen other cams before coming to our house, so plenty of evidence to be found. That is the good thing about living in a CCTV "infested" country.
• All my papers and documents (passports, green-yellow-blue books of all kinds etc.), which I really do not want to lose, are in a safe which I mainly bought for protecting them from fire, just in case. No, not one of the cheapies, a key and PIN one, heavy and bolted to the floor. You would need an excavator to get it out of there.

It will be a character test for Trump, whether or not he will tweet about his nomination already this weekend or whether he will want for Mrs. Justice Ginsburg's funeral to end...

Wait... has he tweeted already while I wrote these lines?

7 hours ago, sateuk said:

What an interesting topic of conversation how much was your mask! Get a life 

Well, if you would be living in Thailand, you would know that masks are essential and mandatory for almost everything you want to do (if you leave your house I mean), and there is pretty much a "no mask - no shopping" policy in place.

I remember when my sister-in-law hand-sewed fabric masks for the whole family, because there were no more masks on the market. That is when the fake and recycled masks came up... So for us living here, the topic of what masks you can get where for what price IS of interest - because we older gents want to keep our life ????

2 hours ago, Captor said:

 

It is best if the camera producer has a cloud storage. That would be most easy and I am OK with paying extra for that. One question though about that: When looking into the webpage of EZVIZ they are talking about that a cloud solution is available if living in certain countries (not Thailand among them). What is that about? Internet is all around so there should be no problem were ever I am if there is an internet connection in the location. So that one I don´t understand. You have the cloud with your EZVIZ right? And you are in Thailand or not? So that should not be any problem. We will see what/if cloud solution Hikvision have.

 

I am not using EZVIZ cloud anymore, but it is available, the website might be outdated (as are many in Asia). My app has the feature to activate clouds and it says Thailand cloud is supported by "EZVIZ International Limited" which is Hong Kong (China) based. For Europe, US etc, it would be EZVIZ Inc. in the USA. I just went to my app and activated the cloud trial for one of my cams and it works, so I guess it is available - and yes, I live in Thailand. 

You could write a mail to EZVIZ with your questions, according to their website https://www.ezvizlife.com/th/page/contact-us,  their mail is [email protected] with a telephone number for Thailand as +66-20-280-433.

You could ask about

• availability of cloud in Thailand and possible family packages (in the US, they offer special packages of 4-cams for a low price)
• availability of Wifi NVR (Network (hard drive) video recorder) and where to get in Thailand for what price. 
• availability of other things like wall mount bracket. This would enable you to install dome cams like the C6C on a wall. Honestly, I did not know that they have this and my vendor (a small multi-brand-shop) did not have it.

OP, you write "I like govt to limit use of scoots as well over 155 say. Since these bigger scoots of 250 or more .."

You did read, that the Thai govt has declared "Big" to be 400cc and more?

As far as I remember, the financial penalty (500 per day, max 20.000) was never mentioned in the re-entry ban announcement. I mean, 20.000 Baht is 40 days, so for each of the mentioned bans, the fine will anyway be 20.000 no matter how long the overstay actually is.

4 hours ago, Captor said:

 

Very good information. My idea was to let the cameras send the videos to the cloud directly. But it look like the data must be sent to a hard drive recorder first (by wifi or cable) and then from there to the router and the cloud? Is that correct?

 

OK. Understood about sirens and security systems.

 

About IP or AHD is the IP camera using more wifi capacity as Impulse says above. So I need to check that up as well. But IP is better considering picture quality right?

But maybe very little difference about quality so Maybe better go for a AHD analogue camera..

On the webpage https://shopee.co.th/ezviz_official I can not see that they are mention IP or AHD at all. But the EZVIZ looks very good. Look like more High quality than the Hi View I have looked at before https://www.hiviewproduct.com/

In the other hand they are talking about IP and AHD https://www.hiviewproduct.com/camera-hiview

What is the point with an SD-card if there is a hard drive recorder and the cloud?

I start to be more and more confused about what to buy ????

 

Let me try to reduce your confusion:

• AHD cameras are generally wired with cables from the camera to the HD recorder in your house. They do NOT require Wifi and the electricity to the cameras comes through the cables from the HD recorder, so only the recorder will need an electric plug. AHD cameras do not need a SD card for recording, all the recording is on the hard drive. You only need Wifi to access the HD recorder with an App on your phone. Mostly, the App will be provided by the HD manufacturer, but there are alsco generic CCTV apps available 
• IP cameras connect through Wifi to your router. EZVIZ cameras are IP cams, as far as I know, they do not offer AHD. Normally, the manufacturer of the camera provides an App, EZVIZ has such an app. Those cameras CAN have an internal SD card for internal recording and they CAN connect to a cloud for external recording (EZVIZ offers their own, paid for cloud), but you could as well use the cameras for live view only without any recording anywhere. This does not make much sense, but it is possible.
• About wifi capacity: I had a "normal" 50/20 contract with DTAC when I installed my first cams and that was plenty. Yes, IP cams are depending on wifi to record to a oloud (but still can record on the internal SD card), unlike AHD which record independent from wifi to the HD recorder and only need wifi for viewing. 

Quality differences between AHD (cable) and IP (wifi) cameras can come from different points.

• First of all, the resolution of the camera which can be 2 MP (1080p), 4, 5 or more MP. Also for the night, the quality of the IR is important, colour quality etc. That is the most important point to look for.
• Second the recording. A harddisk (HD) recorder will be more reliable as an SD card inside a camera, but you should not really have too much issues. When the camera is in a "hot" space, then the SD card might lose recording quality over time, so is is wise to change it maybe yearly. AHD cameras will deliver the camera quality directly to the HD through the coax cable.
• Finally your Internet (Wifi) connection. This will influence the quality of what you see in your app AND it will influence the quality of what will be delivered to your cloud, if you choose this option. 

I can not give you any information about quality difference between EZVIZ and HiView, because I don't know the second brand. All I can tell you is that I am happy with EZVIZ, my first bought cams run for 3 years now without problems.

For your town house and what you said you want to do, Wifi cams seem the best solution. They are cheaper, they do not require a HD recorder, they do not require extensive wiring from the cam to the recorder, they only need a plug for the electricity. So the total hardware cost will be lower as well as the installation costs and maintenance will also be easier and cheaper. Whether or not you use only SD cards or also a cloud is completely up to you.

What I would do is go shopping around in a place like TuCom. Before you go there, take you phone, go to the spots where you want the cameras installed and check the quality of the Wifi reception at those points (you want to have maximum bars for the wifi in those spots). Explain what you need (4 cams), maybe bring pictures where you want the cams be placed, tell the vendor that you want Wifi and ask about storage in cloud. Important is whether it is a private cloud from the manufacturer (like EZVIZ has), as those clouds are much more expensive than a google cloud (as one example). You would want a cam where you can choose your cloud for yourself. 

One last point - I have just seen that on your links: There are HD recorders for IP cameras as well. You could buy such a recorder (watch the price) in order to not have a cloud. However: If you have a break-in and the thief takes the recorder with you, all your data is lost. Therefore, the HD recorder needs to be in a hidden place (like I wrote before invisible in the roof of your house). 

Again: Don't confuse yourself too much comparing products on the internet, talk with 2 or 3 vendors about your specific needs and then decide what is shall be. 

Who wants to leave Thailand for a Covid-infested country with almost no chance to return for months to come?

One more thing about sirens: I have not seen a cam system that also offers add-ons like door alarms, normale motion detectors, sirens or other perimeter alarms. But there might be, if you go high-end.

As @impulse said, this would be a different system and you could then even add smoke detectors et al to the alarm system. when impuls mentions that cams are not really deterrents... I think they are, but of course, an alarm system where the siren goes off will definitely do more. Normally, you would then put the siren at the front, clearly visible, so that a potential thief sees that you are well protected. That said.. I know a guy who installed a siren dummy on his front door, the only function it has is a blinking light to make people believe that there is an alarm system...

1 hour ago, Captor said:

Hi Swiss,

 

That was a lot thank you very much. Very appreciated. Movement detection for example I forgot about. And motion alarm by sms, good stuff! For the camera indoor. I will check that. Should there be a siren for scaring away a thief? The cams will protect a townhome. I was thinking 2 cams in the front in case some one want to steel of just cut the power then the other camera will "see" that. And then I was thinking about 2 cams in the big room on the first floor both opposite walls faced to the middle of the room. The backside is safe. No one can come in that way.

The cams outside will be mounted under a roof on the roof or wall I am not sure for now.

 

I am not sure I understood about the storage. You said 1 camera in 7 days will need 128GB storage? Also with the motion detection? That will give me some problem because that means 512 for 4 cams. OK, I need to buy a big SD card or forget about the phone and instead just put the data in the cloud somewhere. Do you have any idea where I can do that? Is that a difficult setup? Maybe Microsoft or google gmail can be used?

 

You said you had cabled before. So now your cams are with an antenna for the wifi and then battery for the power? No cable at all?

 

 

First, I have EZVIZ cameras types C6C and C6CN (mixed but only 1 app), all dome cameras.

About storage: Yes, each of my cam has a 128GB SD card inside for local storage and through the app, I can decide, whether or not I want to store the data in the EZVIZ cloud itself. I can not chose my own cloud for this model. This is not cheap, I think $60 per year and camera, but then you have 7/24 recording in the could, secure and safe, accessible remotely. How much storage you need is depending on how much motion each cam will catch. Some of my cams have only few movements to record, others almost 18 hours per day (the street facing ones). So yes, storing on the phone is not an option.

My cams have a built-in antenna, you don't see it. That is of course possible, because I have quite strong wifi reception on all camera locations (I have a wifi repeater in the backyard, also for my phone and Smart TVs). Cams with a visible antenna will probably work on longer distances than what I have here. 

Finally, the cabling I mentioned before was for the connection to the hard drive recorder in the roof. So the backyard cams had visible cables running through the yard to the house, I had them put in pipes for protection. My cams do not come with batteries, they only have electricity and the is the wiring you need. However, putting plugs near the location of the cams is much cheaper than wiring needed for a connection to the HD.

Finally about batteries in cams, there are two kinds of such cams:

• cams with batteries that are used as backup in case of electricity failure, so that they continue recording internally), but please note that your wifi router will also be down (except you have a backup battery for that one as well), so you will not be able to access your cams.
• cams with batteries as main source of power: Those batteries need regular replace or recharge, so keep your ladder ready and buy a cam system that alerts you to low battery load, otherwise you go dark every so often. Or buy a battery cam system with solar cell battery reload, but hey... that is a question of price.

Again, how much you want to spend depends on the level of security and availability you require. Four cams with SD cards, setup by an electrician, you can have them installed in few hours for 5.000 Baht or less, then pay for cloud services as you go or need. Or you go high-end high-security and you can spend more than you have to protect. 

Wrong logic, OP. You can get the virus not matter the strength of your immune system. And you can give it to others, no matter the strength of your immune system.

The only thing is this: with a weak immune system, you can get very sick very fast - and thus be very fast "removed" from society and put in quarantine... So actually people smoking, drinking and otherwise endangering they immune system are - when also wearing a mask - LESS likely to give the virus to other people. They will get sick fast, will be isolated fast and might get killed, so not having a chance to further spread the virus and thus, others will be safe from them.

We should thank them...

7 minutes ago, moontang said:

That would be possible on individual mask sales, but on a box of 50?  Think about it...

Yes, they do... just google "Thailand recycle face masks" and find the articles, see pics below from the raids, second pic shows the 50p boxes labeled "SMP" 

Most shops (Tops, Big C, Tesco etc) and pharmacies now have surgical / medical masks back in supply and sell boxes of 50 for between 200 and 300 Baht (different brands). I used them for the whole Covid mask-wearing policy. On top, I have cloth masks which I can use with carbon inlays, those I already use since long time for the whole air pollution / 2.5 issue.

I would not trust any of the street sellers, specially at the low prices you mentioned, I read some reports about recycled masks... 

Will try a bit. First, it depends what you want to protect with the cams. Condo or House, indoor or outdoor, protected areas or exposed to the weather, mounted on walls or ceilings / floors.

I have Wifi cameras which only require electricity and a running wifi and give me the option to store in the cloud. My cams only record when they detect movement, otherwise there is not storage use. Important is the pic quality (min 1080p, don't go below), the IR quality in night time and what kind of alarms you can define. My cams can send me a SMS when I activate the alarm feature, but for outdoor cams that is a bad idea, every bird, big fly and cat will trigger the alarm. For inside cams that is a great thing when you are away from home. 

Now, as far as I know, AHD (analog HD) will require coax cabling to a HD recorder for which you would need a safe space to put it. Normally, it would be in the roof of a house, so that a burglar can not just take the recorder away and all your pics are gone. HR recorders might not give you the option of additional cloud recording, you would have to check that.

At the end of the day, it all depends on your security needs. Your cams have two points of failure: wifi and electricity. Wifi cams have therefore double risk of break down, so really you need to review the availability of those 2 services for your protected object. Wifi cams normally come with a SD card that can easily store up to 1 week of recordings (large SD) and with the option of cloud storage, theft of the cams does not affect your backup in the cloud.

As far as your wifi, a normal router is more than enough. My 7 cams are all on my 2.4G network and work very well. Storing data depends on what options your cam system gives you for the length of storage. As I said, my cams can store 7 days on a 128GB SD card - multiply that with the number of cams and the number of weeks that you want to keep your data and you will have your number. Not really an amount of data you want to put on your phone... Cloud at the end is all about cost. 

Mic and speaker are a good thing... if you get an alarm and want to try and drive away a burglar... or if you have inside cams and leave your kids at home alone and want to scare them when you see what they do... 

Me personally, I do not need the most expensive brand, I bought my cams in TuCom for around 1K Baht per piece, Wifi, SD card, some on cloud, others not, good IR, come with mic and speaker (not that I was looking for that), have an app for the phone where I see pics of all cams on one page. I had a cabled system before, it is a pain in the ass for solving problems (you will need a CCTV company for that, as you don't want to climb in your roof...).

Almost forgot to add: My cams can only be mounted on floors or ceilings, NOT on walls, and should NOT be exposed to weather. So really, the question about placement must take precedence over price or brand or any other question. It will limit what you can use. The outside cams are under roofs and protected from water, but of course, that limits their upwards visibility 

Ok, enough for now, just some thoughts from a person with "normal" cam use requirements with no gold bars or high cash amounts or Van Gogh pictures at home...

20 minutes ago, Susco said:

I also don't think he will send the bottle by unaccompanied checked bag, but will send a parcel instead, which can have liquid.

 

https://www.easyship.com/blog/how-to-ship-liquids

 

As a general rule of thumb, non-flammable products are usually easy to ship and can be sent through regular air, ship or ground carrier services. Flammables are a little trickier to deal with, but if you have the proper packaging and paperwork, you should be able to ship these, too.

Thank you indeed for proving my point. Reading your link, there is a title "How to Ship Beer and Wine?" that reads:

"Shipping beer or wine - or indeed, any type of alcohol - can be a little difficult. If you’re in the business and need to make international commercial shipments of alcohol, you should be able to do so by carefully following your carrier’s regulations - and, you may also need import and export licences. However, if you’re just sending these as a gift, you’re better off using subscription or online retail services that have better access to the right type of mailing services."

9 hours ago, Susco said:

Really?

 

If I travel by air, I'm allowed to have only 100ml or so in hand luggage, but I can as much liquid as my weight allowance in checked luggage

That is correct, but OP is not talking about taking with him on the flight he also sits inside but about sending through post.

Airlines don't allow checked bags to be transported when the passenger doesn't board the plane for a reason...