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I second that @ExpatOilWorker Very few people on AN who criticize EVs have ever driven one and it is hard to respect their uninformed opinions. I agree with your comments about the lack of Indicator stalks on the model 3 and would add having to select drive or reverse from the screen makes no sense to me Regen is a personal opinion. I always felt regen on my MG was too weak but my BYD Seal seems perfect as I use it for overtaking blasts and lift off to quickly get back to legal speeds I lift off as traffic slows and never touch my brakes until I’m under 20km/h Some complain it’s not true one pedal and it’s not but any stronger would make my driving jerky.

Connecting my car to my solar system cost about ฿3k When we built the house we wanted to reduce the amount of concrete we used so had a gravel drive, but even using weed block the grass comes through in the rainy season. I am resigned to the fact I will have to concrete it.

I discussed this recently: Tesla: currently available on the CT - can't buy in Thailand. EM during Investor Day 2023 was asked a question about BDC and said it could be added in a couple of years, but said it was "inconvenient" Tesla’s senior vice president in powertrain and energy engineering, Drew Baglino , who has since left Tesla said “Bidirectional… it wasn’t like a conscious decision to not do it; it just wasn’t a priority” and we haven't heard anything since. Ford: F150 Lightning - can't buy in Thailand GM: Chevy Silverado EV - can't buy in Thailand Hyunda: Ioniq 5 starting at ฿1,699,000 Ioniq 6 starting a ฿1,899,000 Kia: EV5 Light : 1,299,000 THB and EV5 Air : 1,399,000 THB Mitsubishi: Outlander PHEV starting price of ฿1.75m Nissan: V2H and V2G is available on the Leaf - can buy in Thailand but you would be a fool to as it comes with the CHAdeMO charging standard and no active cooling for the traction battery. It's also stupid expensive for a 40kWh battery EV Original Price ฿2m - didn't sell New Price (Final Call) - ฿1m - didn't sell Current Price (Final Final Call) - ฿1.5m - not selling

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Why Thailand is key to Chinese EV expansion overseas

I have 36kWh in my home solar but I also plug my EV in to the solar system which adds an additional 86kWh.

Your "Only one solution" to a clearly DIY battery charging setup is to "Ban all EVs"

You can see in the figures for 2024 above that so far BYD are ranked 1,2,3 in Thailand Tesla model 3 is 8th and model Y is 15th 2023 Tesla performed a bit better but BYD only started selling in large numbers late in the year Here are the figures for 2022 (anybody have 2021 and earlier?)

EV Registrations January-July 2024

Tesla has it on the cybertruck as well as V2H along with the Ford F150 Lightning and Chevy Silverado EV. The V2H setups are very expensive for all three compared to my setup of feeding V2L directly into my solar system. https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/18/24133181/gm-energy-v2h-bundle-cost-ev-bidirectional

I don’t know if you have or are considering solar, but EVs and solar work very well together. If you are retired you can charge your EV from excess solar in the middle of the day but a weekend charge would probably cover your weekly commute. If you can’t charge at home but do your grocery shopping once a week or meet friends for a coffee, you can charge your car for the week at the same time. In addition many EVs come with Vehicle to Load (V2L) which allows the car to send power out. I have my EV plugged into my solar system at night to give over 6 Tesla Powerwalls of backup. In a worse case scenario I would have 70% battery capacity left after 8 years which is equivalent to 4.5 Tesla Powerwalls. I don’t see myself selling my EV in 8 years time if the sales price is less than the price of the battery storage. My original EV is now 4 years old and has only lost a couple of km of indicated range. I can afford to replace it with a shinny new EV, but it looks great and performs very well so why would I? This is my setup:

I have already shown that to be false. You offer nothing but justyournopinion

I’m already seeing as I own 2 EVs and an electric motorbike all powered by solar. I don’t have a meter so no PEA bills or gasoline bills.

you claim to be a physicist, so you must have an advanced degree, so I shouldn’t have to explain to you what a citation is, so how come you’ve forgotten how to use them? “some reports suggest for Chinese produced cars, somewhere between 6 to 10 years” But you can’t name them so clearly you just made that up. My BYD came with an 8yr 160,000km warranty after which it’s guaranteed to have at least 80% of it’s original capacity. In my case over 400km of range. https://www.byd.com/en-th/support/service/warranty-policy “after 2 years or so, any 'run of the mill' EV will have no resale value” Fact checked and it turns out to bs “EVs are a monumental scam, sold on misinformation, bad economics, unproven environmental statements and to folk who think they are cool and trendy” No citations, so no proof. You drive a 7 year old vios and have demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge about EVs.

Nobody else seems to think that it was a joke only you. Claiming it was a joke is disinformation.

If you actually were a Guardian reader you would know the difference between free speech and disinformation Musk posting to his 194m followers about “detainment camps” being established in the Falkland Islands for rioters isn’t freedom of speech it’s disinformation. quietly deleting the tweet later after it’s already been seen by millions doesn’t undo the damage

Anybody here bought a Tesla? For me the decision was a pragmatic one: A BYD Seal AWD Performance was cheaper than base model 3 in Thailand I wanted a big battery of 80kWh+ and it had to be LFP which rules out Teslas I wanted bi-directional charging which rules out Teslas I wanted a dealership that wasn't 700km away which rules out Teslas The main selling point for Teslas in EU and the USA is the supercharging network, which outside BKK is practically non existent. And then there's Musk, does he influence your decision to consider a Tesla? I used to think he was a bit strange but more recently .....

Assembled in Thailand BYD Sealion 6 DM-i (Plug-in Hybrid) added premium version

I often see people posting that EVs are some sort of fad and that we will all go back to driving ICE vehicles, but the data shows that is unlikely. In fact we have already passed peak ICE sales in 2018 and they have been in decline ever since I’m sure many will have opinions on these graphs but remember to use data to support them

It’s definitely no where near 3 months. We drove our new BYD Seal on red plates for only a couple of weeks. Clearly the people making these claims haven’t bought a new car in Thailand in recent years. “My 15 year old Vios is cheaper to run than your EV” “My 20 year old Hilux will outlast me, so I’m not buying an EV” Agreed, but how can people claim EV sales are falling if the official stats state otherwise? “The official government registration statistics were stolen wrong”

Your quote from February 2020 is a bit outdated, the world of battery technology moves fast so you might not have realized that Japanese companies have fallen way behind Chinese and Korean ones

Don’t do DIY modifications on your electric bike - should be bloody obvious. I have owned a made in Thailand Deco electric bike for a couple of years and never had a problem with it https://decogreenenergy.com/olddeco/index.php/en/ Deco's are all LFP batteries, and yet to have one reported fire on the Deco FB group, with 1000s being sold in TH

I would agree with you as would the classification of New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China https://cleantechnica.com/tag/ev-sales/

China, the world’s largest auto market is now over 50% electric. What effect is this having on foreign brands?

Assembled in Thailand BYD Sealion 6 DM-i (Plug-in Hybrid) : Launches in Thailand at ฿939,900 When comparing Sealion 6 DM-i with C-Segment SUVs in the same group and nearby BYD Sealion 6 : 4,775 x 1,890 x 1,670 mm. | Wheelbase 2,765 mm. Honda CR-V : 4,694 x 1,864 x 1,692 mm. | Wheelbase 2,700 mm. Haval H6 : 4,653 x 1,886 x 1,724 mm. | Wheelbase 2,738 mm. DM-i Super Plug-in Hybrid 1.5-liter gasoline engine with 98 horsepower, 122 Newton meters, working together with a single electric motor with 197 horsepower, 300 Newton meters. When the engine works together with the electric motor, the maximum power is 218 horsepower, 300 Newton meters, driving the front wheels, Blade Battery size 18.3 kWh. Acceleration 0-100 km/h within 8.5 seconds Electric-only running distance: 95 km. (NEDC) AC alternating current supports 6.6 kW DC current supports 18 kW Power supply system for external devices V2L – Vehicle to Load