Bandersnatch

“Shut the door too hard in an EV and the battery catches fire”

There are a number of excellent Lithium Iron Phosphate battery cars available for sale now in Thailand: Any BYD, MG4, RWD Teslas any more I missed?

An intelligent approach to this problem would be dynamic pricing that reflect electricity wholesale prices. So at times of excess supply, electricity prices go negative and EVs start charging for free, but any exports incur negative payments.

Such a system would make home batteries much more financially attractive.

To a certain extent this is already happening with electricity tariffs like Octopus Flux in the UK.

1 hour ago, Melpomene said:

We've always paid cash for our cars, but I may be tempted to finance this one as I didn't realise this would be possible, so it's good to know you can do this

This is the 7th new vehicle I have bought in Thailand. The first 5 I paid cash.
 

I had seen the MG EP EV at a show and wanted to test drive it. My local dealer didn’t have one so I tested another car that was twice the price. I told the dealer it would take me some time to arrange the money and they suggested financing. I was surprised it worked but I now prefer to pay for cars from income than cash in investments.

1 minute ago, macahoom said:

I got the impression, from the Seal forum, that the Performance was not being ordered much.

 

At the close of business on launch day, only 2 Performance models had been ordered in Phuket, both of which had been reserved before launch day.

 

 

Maybe you’re right. My dealership is only posting pics of AWD version and seen a few pics of Black AWDs on the Seal Forum but they might be the same car. I know Admin has a Black AWD

BYD Seal RWD LR (Premium) purchase update.

Found out today that finance has been approved. The sales girl said she hoped to get us a white premium this month. Clearly all the stock they had has been sold. 
 

I thought buying White rather than the cool Black and also not choosing the popular performance version would help with delivery but apparently not.

I used a number of non standard building techniques in my build such as geothermal and an Energy Recovery Ventilation system. I attended Architecture and green energy shows in Bangkok. I talked to 2 professors of Architecture about eco build technology but I never came across hemp being used.

Another problem for you building on Koh Chang is that if you use any materials that you can’t source on the island, you will have bring them across on the Ferry.

I would recommend sticking with AAC blocks. I used two walls of 7.5cm and put 3 inches of foam in between.

Tesla is for sale in Malaysia far cheaper than in Thailand and with White colour for free. In Thailand white costs an ฿50,000.

1 hour ago, mistral53 said:

My first mod - even though it is fake carbon fiber, it looks soooo much better than the original cheap hard plastic! Moreover, the quality of this plastic molding is amazing, especially considering the low price.

 

 

Looks good, did you buy and fit yourself? How much?

Check the speed of the charger before you plug in 

PTT has 160 kW 

Any others?

16 hours ago, mistral53 said:

Is labor cost in Thailand really on par with industrialized countries for ceramic coating? I know the quality of a paint correction correlates directly with the skill of the workers deployed, and being skimpy can lead to a long lasting aggravation of swirls in the paint instead of the glitz I fancy - do I miss something here?

 

What are prices you guys are being quoted?

We bought a new SUV 2 years ago and were quoted ฿20,000 for ceramic.

We found another place in Buriram that does PPF  - quoted ฿45k for the seal and ฿42k if not wrapping the glass roof

In case you missed it:

BANGKOK (NNT) - A proposal has been raised with the Excise Department, seeking to extend the registration deadline for state-subsidized electric vehicles (EVs).

        Advisor for the development of the excise control system Nattakorn Uthainsut made the proposal to the Excise Department to amend the regulations pertaining to electric vehicle (EV) purchases.

    The proposal aims to extend the registration period for state-subsidized electric vehicles, offering a 150,000 THB discount per vehicle, by an additional month to January 31st, 2024, from the initial deadline of December 31st, 2023. This extension seeks to support EV sales under the EV 3.0 project in the first quarter of 2023, following the completion of the initial phase where the government allocated a fund of 3 billion baht, which expired last month.

    Reports emerged after the cabinet meeting on September 26th, indicating its approval of an additional budget of about one billion baht in the 2023 mid-year budget. This allocation is aimed at boosting the confidence of manufacturers who are eligible under the incentive scheme to invest in electric vehicle production in Thailand between 2024-2025. It also aims to bolster public confidence in purchasing electric vehicles. The cabinet had previously approved a 3 billion baht incentive, offering a discount of 150,000 baht per car, which supports approximately 20,000 electric vehicles.

    Currently, the number of individuals who have purchased electric vehicles and benefited from this scheme has surpassed initial estimates. This has prompted a request for an additional budget of 1 billion baht, as electric vehicle registration under this project has already exceeded 37,000 and could potentially rise to 50,000 vehicles.

Thailand pledges support for ICE vehicle production amidst EV transition.

“Thai prime minister highlighted Japan’s position as the top foreign direct investor. However, he raised concerns that the evolving Thai EV market might disadvantage Japanese businesses, given their slower pace in adopting EV technology”

https://thethaiger.com/news/business/thailand-pledges-support-for-ice-vehicle-production-amidst-ev-transition

Seems a strange comment consider the massive recent investment by Chinese companies in Thailand.

In addition to the fuel subsidy what are they going to do? 

7 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Seems like the Tesla price reductions could be in the US also according to The Electric Viking .

So Tesla is now selling Model 3s in the USA for ฿1m before incentives. Dropping the price in Thailand from ฿1.759m to ฿1.6m sounds like too little too late.

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

BYD top two places ( might be 3 next month as the Seal seems very popular

Thanks @Andrew Dwyer please post again next month.

BYD Dolphin and Atto 3 both with over 1,600 and Tesla Model Y 250 and model 3 125. Maybe Tesla is starting to realize they have over priced their cars here.

Maybe if they had offered model 3 for ฿1.3m 

55 minutes ago, Alotoftravel said:

My BYD local sales told me no finance available for foreigners . Still searching for a Finance bank contact to assist . Might have to be cash purchase. 

The loan is in my wife's name but it's my finance their looking at. Have bought a car this way before.

4 minutes ago, Alotoftravel said:

Even with the reduced pricing , there are good reasons to go with BYD:

-does not include 1st year insurance and car registration 

-only 1 service center in BKK for repairs , warranty and maintenance.

-need to pick up new car in BKK and drive back to far away province home .

-longer car And battery warranty 

-24 hour road side assistance for 8 years 

-Recharge cable and v2l cable included

-less expensive car insurance premium

etc . 

 

All good reasons and I why I ordered a LR BYD Seal.

Talking of which got contacted by SCB yesterday (who I have banked with for over 20 years) about the finance on the Seal. They asked for a copy of my UK tax return for 22-23 and Land Registry documents for my UK properties which I sent them. They turned up at the house yesterday wanting a tour of the house and the grounds - all seemed a bit OTT

Think I’ll pass

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

the offer in buriram appears quite promising. the cost being under 30k surprises me.

however, be aware that paint protection film (PPF) can vary in terms of quality, lifespan,

and guarantees. it seems like there's more homework to do ... 

 

wife contacted them and asked for quote for PPF wrap for Seal. They responded with details of promotion for ceramic coating!